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 thepowerfulwill wrote:
Name your army, give us one pet peeve you have playing/modeling/painting it

Chaos: Running out of black paint, AGAIN.

Can I just do this for all my armies?
Chaos Daemons. Building: How can I convert these new Pink Horrors to look like the old twisted models that were pulling two smaller creatures from their mouth. Painting: How the heck can I paint something garish but not too garish, abstract and shifting yet not? Playing: Random roll time! *rolls 100 dice before anything else can be done*
Chaos Space Marines. Building: Come on let me put you toge-*stabbed by spikes* GAAAAAH. Painting: Well out of metallic paints. Playing: *Flips to Tzeentch*
IG. Building: Resist urge to try to kit bash wildly especially with chaos and greenstuff. Painting: So. Many. GUARDSMEN! Playing: Hold on friend, I must move all of my conscripts slightly and the rest of my guard. Now I must shoot my dozens of dice multiplied by FRFSRF.
(Those are my main armies at least)

I think mine has to be the legions of guardsmen I had to build/paint, because the GW kits suck ass. Seriously? I have to make 100 of these guys and the shoulder joints aren't even joints, they're two pieces of flat plastic that you have to hope stick together with enough glue.

Also, the last iteration of the Leman Russ, not the most recent. The old one had those stupid 3D rendered instructions printed in black and white so it made no visible sense. Also, the hulls never fit together, EVER.

 Envihon wrote:

 urbanevil wrote:


GK - shading silver, and figuring out how im gonna pack my new Stormraven lol.

That is why I say screw it and don't even try. I just wash them to get shadow effects and leave it be but that is when my patience is running thin.

Nailed it lmao.

Iron Hands
Need lots of bionic pieces needed for a "proper" army. Half of chapter tactics a little underwhelming 6+ FNP. Lots of dreads so lots of Drop pods required. The F#$%*g Thunderfire cannon (seriously, what were they thinking making this out of Finecrap). Bikes. Bikes are expensive...

How my 3 + save marines are not as durable_as the seem the should be

 A Town Called Malus wrote:


People don't like pure Crisis? It's not that strong. In fact it's pretty squishy as no shots against Crisis teams are really wasted.

Anti-Tank shots ID them so the shot is still worthwhile (as opposed to having lots of lascannons and coming up against Green Tide, for example) and if you shoot them with anti-infantry weapons they die just as easily as an equivalent amount of space marines.

Basically it all comes down to moving effectively to limit the positions that the suits can jump back to safely. Anti-guerrilla tactics, surround them to remove their ability to evade your fire via terrain or by outranging you, then annihilate them.

All good points, its mainly the fact that I have at least x1 or x2 Riptides to back up the rest of my army and the fact that a lot of people here "Tau" and immediately freak out and cry Cheese or its OP, ect. The good news is that the majority of players at my store are really good players and I don't have to worry about it, just one or two.

Tyranids - Having a Codex written by someone who either does not understand or actively despises the army they're writing for.

Blood Ravens: Just because they're red doesn't mean they're Blood Angels

Minotaurs: Gets Hot! My 200 something points named Contemptor Dreadnought has actually fired his plasma cannon all of 3 times, out of a good 12 games. He's only died to enemy action once, but has died in 10 of those 12 games.

Death Korps: Keeping track of casualties; when platoons come back off reserve when they die, you can't just craft the ubiquitous pile of dead guardsmen.

Steel Legion: Metal, oh the metal.

Chaos Space Marines, I feel a great sadness when going to tournaments and listing all the armies I don't want to face. They tend to be:
ALL OF THEM!

 Frankenberry wrote:
I think mine has to be the legions of guardsmen I had to build/paint, because the GW kits suck ass. Seriously? I have to make 100 of these guys and the shoulder joints aren't even joints, they're two pieces of flat plastic that you have to hope stick together with enough glue.

Also, the last iteration of the Leman Russ, not the most recent. The old one had those stupid 3D rendered instructions printed in black and white so it made no visible sense. Also, the hulls never fit together, EVER.

Oh, reminds me, one the Space Marine Rhino-chassis vehicles had its instructions printed with the treads facing the wrong way. One end of the tread pieces has three prongs, the other end has two. They only fit one way on the model, but you don't discover that until you get to get to trying to fit the very last piece between the inside and outside pieces of the sides of the vehicle. And they printed the instructions with the treads shown the wrong way around.

Sisters of battle because they haven't had a new unit or updated since before some players were born. (That's inexcusable.)

Space Marines because because it definitely doesn't feel like I'm fielding a super elite warriors. They feel like expensive cannon fodder.

 MWHistorian wrote:

Space Marines because because it definitely doesn't feel like I'm fielding a super elite warriors. They feel like expensive cannon fodder.

This is so true

Playing guard:
1. losing all my favorite characters in the game (the reason I play guard).
2. Realizing how bad guard are (bad shots, paper thin, etc.) my first games.
3. How hard leman russ is to build.
4. No plastic tallarn and other regiments.
5. Trying to find a easy paint scheme that also looks good.
My top 5.

Playing Necrons and being called OP when it was just lucky/unlucky dice that were to blame.

Crimson Fists - they being a second founding, I find myself being asked why I didn't do them up as one of the "real (ie, founding) chapters".....or being asked if they are Ultramarines

Chaos Daemons - being told that in order for daemons to ever be a functional, you HAVE to take Fateweaver.

 Pouncey wrote:

 dementedwombat wrote:
Playing Tau, the worst part is definitely having to put up with how much complaining people seem to do about them. So glad that the interent masses have found other stuff to complain about and moved on by now.

That's why I'm hoping that if Sisters of Battle ever get a nice update with a new range of plastic models, the Codex is not overpowered.

I would not look forward to having played Sisters of Battle since 200...7? 8? I dunno, and then have people automatically think the worst of me online whenever I mention what army I play. Grey Knight players went through that, even the ones who were still using their painted metal minis.

Well, to be fair, Sisters are already pretty dang good (at least in my opinion). It's just that not many people play them, so the majority of the internet is not familiar with how much pain they can deliver.

 dementedwombat wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:

 dementedwombat wrote:
Playing Tau, the worst part is definitely having to put up with how much complaining people seem to do about them. So glad that the interent masses have found other stuff to complain about and moved on by now.

That's why I'm hoping that if Sisters of Battle ever get a nice update with a new range of plastic models, the Codex is not overpowered.

I would not look forward to having played Sisters of Battle since 200...7? 8? I dunno, and then have people automatically think the worst of me online whenever I mention what army I play. Grey Knight players went through that, even the ones who were still using their painted metal minis.

Well, to be fair, Sisters are already pretty dang good (at least in my opinion). It's just that not many people play them, so the majority of the internet is not familiar with how much pain they can deliver.

They're good, but their options are highly limited. There's only one competitive build with a few variations.

CSM: Trying to get into CC via anything other than footslogging is halfway doomed.

DE: Transporting the army first, and having only two fire modes second (4+ poisoned, or S8 AP2 36" lance)

Guard:

Having to buy all the Guardsmen
Having to build all the Guardsmen
Having to paint all the Guardsmen

Black Templars

'Omg you have OS Land Raiders you're instantly better than everyone else'
No.
Being incapable of fielding a good Special Character as they all suck.
Not being able to take Librarians when Psychic Powers are still awesome.
Feeling obliged to run big squads of Marines when I know they just die to Battle Cannons.

Dark Eldar:

Too squishy and too much to transport.

 MWHistorian wrote:

 dementedwombat wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:

 dementedwombat wrote:
Playing Tau, the worst part is definitely having to put up with how much complaining people seem to do about them. So glad that the interent masses have found other stuff to complain about and moved on by now.

That's why I'm hoping that if Sisters of Battle ever get a nice update with a new range of plastic models, the Codex is not overpowered.

I would not look forward to having played Sisters of Battle since 200...7? 8? I dunno, and then have people automatically think the worst of me online whenever I mention what army I play. Grey Knight players went through that, even the ones who were still using their painted metal minis.

Well, to be fair, Sisters are already pretty dang good (at least in my opinion). It's just that not many people play them, so the majority of the internet is not familiar with how much pain they can deliver.

They're good, but their options are highly limited. There's only one competitive build with a few variations.

I'm not sure if this is the one competitive build, but my friend runs a gigantic blob of Sisters with Celestine, an Inquisitor, a couple Priests of some kind that give better invulnerable saves (which of course are re-rollable). Then a couple of those organ artillery tanks and an outflanking melta squad.

So many angry females charging forward in power armor...it's like an Ork green tide of militant space nuns.

And that's pretty much it exactly.

Imperial Guard: Stupid name change and the fact that the best way to play the army is counter to the fluff. Mech Vets runs counter to the background for me. I feel the Platoon should be the strongest way to run them, but codex isn't written that way. And lots of units with limited or no competitive ways to use them.

Mech guard... counter to the fluff? That isnt true in the slightest. There are tons of mechanized guard units. Most likely more than there are Space Marine chapters.

Thats the nice thing about the guard. I dont know of any lists that are unfluffy. Maybe an psyker army but thats thankfully impossible outside of unbound.

Ahzek Ahriman. Former Magister Templi of the Corvidae, Chief Librarian and 1st Fellowship Captain of the Thousand Sons.
WHY CANT HE USE DIVINATION!? <- Caps Lock

("The Corvidae's specialty was precognition; the ability to see into the future." -Lexicanum)

Or people calling 1KSons undercosted.

 TheCustomLime wrote:
Mech guard... counter to the fluff? That isnt true in the slightest. There are tons of mechanized guard units. Most likely more than there are Space Marine chapters.

Thats the nice thing about the guard. I dont know of any lists that are unfluffy. Maybe an psyker army but thats thankfully impossible outside of unbound.

Not Mech Guard, but specially mechanized veterans, its a pet peeve that it eclipses the platoon as the best choice. It disappoints me to see someone's army and there are minimal veterans in chimeras with allies. Back in 4th ed I ran a proper Mech Guard army, looked nothing like the nonsense you see on the table now. But that is a reflection of the game, not the background.

Orks: Facing Super Heavies D: Those make me a sad squig. Hopefully, the codex update will allow me to handle them a little better.

Melevolence wrote:
Orks: Facing Super Heavies D: Those make me a sad squig. Hopefully, the codex update will allow me to handle them a little better.

Yeah, that hasn't happened....

Necrons:

Constantly getting jibes about being OP despite purposefully not buying enough of any one type of model to spam anything.

Consistently failing a disproportionately large percentage of my reanimation rolls.

Opponent's reaction on those rare occasions when I do pull off a decent RP roll (mixed bag though- the expression on my opponents' faces in my recent apocalypse game when my CCB Warlord reanimated was priceless ).

Orks: Finding room on the table to roll all those dice...

With all my armies, I hate painting them.

Thing is, I enjoy painting a few models - and characters in particular - but after that I just lose interest.

For the most part, I like painting various details and effects, but hate the process of applying the base coat to every model. In particular, painting identical models (e.g. Necron Warriors) gets very dull very quickly.


In terms of playing them, what makes me sad is that I want to run a footslogging army, but I feel like I'm being pushed more and more towards needing to buy several transports. I guess it'd be nice if I could play a footslogging list without feeling like I'm handicapping myself.

Also, my Necron Overlords can't hit the broad side of a barn-door with their warscythes.