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zeromaeus wrote: There's a lot of Starship Troopers in 40K. For instance, power armor.
And I was referring to how the Imperials call Tyranids bugs. The aliens in Starship Troopers are called bugs and the ones in Ender's Game are called buggers. Both were insectoid hive mind creatures. The first had giant blade arms that cleaved men in power armor apart with ease. Ender's Game as an influence is iffy, but I have no doubt with Starship Troopers,
Aesthetics are taken straight from Alien for sure. Its not the only contributor, though.
Apart from the fact that 40k predates Starship troopers by 10 years. Enders game and Alien/HR Giger were undoubtedly a big influence. By the time starship troopers was around the concept of Nids was well established in 40k
IMO there is influence from lots of places, including insects, dinosaurs, aliens in many films and book as well as some original art.
insaniak wrote: Sometimes, Exterminatus is the only option.
And sometimes, it's just a case of too much scotch combined with too many buttons...
Except Starship troopers is actually a fifty-year old book. There is some influence there, but the reason I say Aliens was a bigger influence is because there was no visual representation of the Starship Troopers bugs at that time. The concepts were important in creating the trope of hive races, though.
On-topic, however, I'd like to mention that Tyranids actually have both (for want for a proper descriptor) an exoskeleton and endoskeleton, as evidenced by the Carnifex head considered to be representative of the regeneration biomorph.
They have a lot of insect theme going on, but this is probably a direct result of influence from Aliens and so on, as other people have said. The obsession with the word "Hive", for example. Their specification towards certain tasks recalls social insects like ants. A lot of the "insect-like" part of their anatomy actually more resembles crustaceans, with the obvious example being Crushing Claws. They are dinosaur-like in the general sense (gaunts are not unlike velociraptors), but really they're neither.
The funny thing is that the Zerg have an offshoot that is essentially all dinosaurs. Bear in mind that all my Starcraft knowledge comes from a wiki-crawl I once did, but I believe they're "primal" Zerg that were cut off from the central intelligence (not a conglomerate like the Tyranids, but an actual singular intelligence) and became all scaly and stuff.
On a side note, Tyranids are modeled with spiracles (breathing holes), which is strictly an insect attribute. However, spiracles don't work (at least in the normal sense) on any animal larger than a rat.
zeromaeus wrote: There's a lot of Starship Troopers in 40K. For instance, power armor.
And I was referring to how the Imperials call Tyranids bugs. The aliens in Starship Troopers are called bugs and the ones in Ender's Game are called buggers. Both were insectoid hive mind creatures. The first had giant blade arms that cleaved men in power armor apart with ease. Ender's Game as an influence is iffy, but I have no doubt with Starship Troopers,
Aesthetics are taken straight from Alien for sure. Its not the only contributor, though.
Apart from the fact that 40k predates Starship troopers by 10 years
Lol, that reminds me of people who claim that 40k rips off Starcraft because Dawn of War came after.
Ailaros wrote: You know what really bugs me? When my opponent, before they show up at the FLGS smears themselves in peanut butter and then makes blood sacrifices to Ashterai by slitting the throat of three male chickens and then smears the spatter pattern into the peanut butter to engrave sacred symbols into their chest and upper arms.
I have a peanut allergy. It's really inconsiderate.
"Long ago in a distant land, I, M'kar, the shape-shifting Master of Chaos, unleashed an unspeakable evil! But a foolish Grey Knight warrior wielding a magic sword stepped forth to oppose me. Before the final blow was struck, I tore open a portal in space and flung him into the Warp, where my evil is law! Now the fool seeks to return to real-space, and undo the evil that is Chaos!"
Frozen Ocean wrote:I'd like to mention that Tyranids actually have both
so smart so insightful
Except we have explicit mention that Tyranids have exoskeletons, and the model demonstrates they also have endoskeletons. Their plates are not their exoskeleton, they are plates.
PrinceRaven wrote: Lol, that reminds me of people who claim that 40k rips off Starcraft because Dawn of War came after.
People have said that 40k is a rip-off of Gears of War after the space Marine game came out.
... I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
Ailaros wrote: You know what really bugs me? When my opponent, before they show up at the FLGS smears themselves in peanut butter and then makes blood sacrifices to Ashterai by slitting the throat of three male chickens and then smears the spatter pattern into the peanut butter to engrave sacred symbols into their chest and upper arms.
I have a peanut allergy. It's really inconsiderate.
"Long ago in a distant land, I, M'kar, the shape-shifting Master of Chaos, unleashed an unspeakable evil! But a foolish Grey Knight warrior wielding a magic sword stepped forth to oppose me. Before the final blow was struck, I tore open a portal in space and flung him into the Warp, where my evil is law! Now the fool seeks to return to real-space, and undo the evil that is Chaos!"
