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The chariot is no more stupid to see on the battlefield than this...



or this...



or this...



or these guys



My point being that 40K has a long tradition of putting out models that have no place at all on a futuristic battlefield with laser guns and mini rockets. Let alone a swirling melee with chainsaws and gauntlets of such destructive power it can melt tanks in half.

However, imagine the sinerio where Logan has to go to some diplomatic meeting and needs to come from a position of strength and he shows up in the chariot. That would be impressive and totally a SW thing to do.

So yeah, I like it, just not on the battlefield.

I think the Chariot is something only a guy super into the modeling side of the game could love. (Unless its rules make it OP as hell). At the end of the day you've got on foot Logan to be a LoW in your flffy/competitive game, and you've got a space Viking wolf chariot to ride your display case. <shrug> It's clear to my line of thinking, someone in the shop was like "I've got this fething amazing idea!" and the boss said, just run with it. In the end it is a bit silly, but you have to encourage guys to go out on the ledge.


Of course if they give it super OP rules, I am calling shenanigans just so they could sell that model. But the number of guys who will complain while fielding it will be awesome.

When I first got into 40K it was as a means to be creative on a small, quick scale (painting and modeling little plastic dudes). I chose Space Wolves as my main army because they were cheaper that Witch Hunters and the models were better than the Dark Eldar (8 or 9 years ago). Also, Space Wolves were viking werewolf super solders from the 41 millennium. These things still hold true. It's tongue and cheek ridiculousness. Always has been. Plastic injection mold design tech has just gotten better.

Logan's Chariot has pretty much point proven that they've taken the SW schtick past theme and into what was once only the realm of late night 4chan parody.

40k has always had some ridiculous things, but this is just so absurd as to be irritating.

They SOOO should have went with bran redmaws fluff and hq choice. Sure bran has rules In forge world, but there is no model for him and they could have easily converted him to the codex.

Want wulfen! Not Viking....but many people wanted space Vikings back. You got it! Grats!

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
To be fair, I more or less have quit 40K, though it was "too late" years ago. But the overall aesthetic of the game is important to how I enjoy it. And this kind of shark jumping dampens my entire love for the universe. So you can take your immature, snakry reply somewhere else kiddo.

40k had this ridiculous over the top aesthetic for as long as I can remember. Yeah sometime things come out better than others but I swear sometimes it feels like people want 40k to be some regular army soldier bland stuff...boring. Just like when GW revealed the city RoB board and people were actually expecting a normal urban looking city with little pavement and yellow line streets...40k is supposed to have an eccentric over the top aesthetic, don't blame it for not being what you want it to be.

How about you be less worried about what other people think and concentrate on yourself. This is a discussion forum. If you were looking for a consensus forum, you're on the wrong Internet.

oh please don't act like you were bringing any kind of discussion, you were basically just spitting hate...anyway i don't wanna jump into an internet argument, you have the right to hate anything you want...

Christ, if there's one word that's over-used on the internet, it's "hate".

There's a fine line between Space Pope hovering into battle to guide his fish-goatmen (he doesn't actually attack), Mr. Inquisitoir with his pimped out walker, and freakin' Santa Grimnar. The other models shown at least "work". There's no leap of logic to them when you visualize them unlike a grav boat with jet engines that is pulled by wolves. So what happens when the wolves get shot? Does the jets not work on the boat? Why is Logan than going into battle on a busted boat? And he's a melee dude, who is he attacking from that high off the ground?

Nothing adds up. And saying "don't take it so serious" is from the people making sure GW can do no wrong to their "not serious business" serious business that's listing more than Logan Claus with flat tire dead wolf. Fun anecdote, I shopped around the image of our new fluffy friend and pretty much the general consensus was "lol, wat." I didn't meet anyone at the game store that was so excited like folks here save maybe the people in my category of "that's so stupid, I have to make it even more stupid and paint and display how stupid it is."

This is after I saw folks making fun of the flying freezer, being flabbergasted at the incredulous ability for GW to forgo a thesaurus with Wolverine McMurder-StabStab, and now this "thing." And I bet you it's going to cost a lot of money. Not so serious model, serious model cost. The probable final disconnect for this piece.

 Da Boss wrote:
Riiiiiight.

Well, enjoy it! I find 40K more fun if it is a little less blatant in it's shout outs to teenage stupidity. Maybe I'm just getting old.

Why isn't anyone jumping Da Boss' bones for saying the model is blatant teenage stupidity? Did he not just call anyone who liked it on the level with a stupid teenager? (/sarcasm)

Petre! That is an awesome classic painting!! Love it man. Turned me around to seeing Login's fanciful snow ride for what it really is. His own personal longship!! Hey why just use it for fishing or hunting krakan. Heck, its so fun why not incorporate it into the battle zone. IRON PRIESTS!! make it work!!! Hehe love it

I think there's a big difference in not liking the model (like me) than saying it's the end of GW and that the SW are forever ruined....

lot of people have voiced their concern in a logical manner, nothing wrong with that.

 TheKbob wrote:
There's a fine line between Space Pope hovering into battle to guide his fish-goatmen (he doesn't actually attack), Mr. Inquisitoir with his pimped out walker, and freakin' Santa Grimnar. The other models shown at least "work". There's no leap of logic to them when you visualize them unlike a grav boat with jet engines that is pulled by wolves. So what happens when the wolves get shot? Does the jets not work on the boat? Why is Logan than going into battle on a busted boat? And he's a melee dude, who is he attacking from that high off the ground?

Nothing adds up. And saying "don't take it so serious" is from the people making sure GW can do no wrong to their "not serious business" serious business that's listing more than Logan Claus with flat tire dead wolf. Fun anecdote, I shopped around the image of our new fluffy friend and pretty much the general consensus was "lol, wat." I didn't meet anyone at the game store that was so excited like folks here save maybe the people in my category of "that's so stupid, I have to make it even more stupid and paint and display how stupid it is."

This is after I saw folks making fun of the flying freezer, being flabbergasted at the incredulous ability for GW to forgo a thesaurus with Wolverine McMurder-StabStab, and now this "thing." And I bet you it's going to cost a lot of money. Not so serious model, serious model cost. The probable final disconnect for this piece.

 Da Boss wrote:
Riiiiiight.

Well, enjoy it! I find 40K more fun if it is a little less blatant in it's shout outs to teenage stupidity. Maybe I'm just getting old.

Why isn't anyone jumping Da Boss' bones for saying the model is blatant teenage stupidity? Did he not just call anyone who liked it on the level with a stupid teenager? (/sarcasm)

Keep up that chip on your shoulder and pretty soon you'll have free fish suppers for life

I didn't care much for the dreadnoughts when they started putting marine helmets in them. But having a bare human head with a ginger topknot is just daft.

I have to my 2 cents into this. All the models above posted/mentioned, are fine. I own Karamazov and Sanguinary Guard. But if you lined them all up, I would pick out Logan and his spiffy ride over the rest of them. It's pretty awesome and fits right in with the theme GW went with SW's this time, which to me is, "get in your opponents face and chop them up all close and personal like"

Not really keen on the chariot thing, not sure what its got to do with the whole viking / norse theme, its not that ridiculous in the grand scheme of 40k fluff though, just not appropriate for a space marine army in my opinion.

I really like the new Logan, to the point that I'd consider a small detachment of SW with Thunderwolf cavalry, Fenrisian wolves and other such beastly things.

But then again, I play UM and GK as my primary armies, and have some BA because I like the Sanguinary Guard.

 Rayvon wrote:
Not really keen on the chariot thing, not sure what its got to do with the whole viking / norse theme.

Its a direct reference to Thor, who had a War-chariot pulled by goats.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA WHAT IS THIS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA This is so over the top the ones who are over the top are calling these over the top.

I'm literally loling. I think I need to buy this thing for the sheer ridiculousness.

My ribs hurt.

 Yodhrin wrote:


Keep up that chip on your shoulder and pretty soon you'll have free fish suppers for life

Sounds like a mirrored statement of your own reflection, unless you'd actually like to weigh in on the topic with something that adds to the discussion. Or are we finally in agreement with Santa Grimnar that the shark has been jumped firmly into the realm of LCD placating schlock? 'Cause I already called that with Murderfang satiating his Murderlust with Murderclaws.

And the new Logan models is awesome, for the record. If he's sensibly priced as a solo model, I'd really consider painting him up. If he's $30+, or worse, only bundled with his sweet ride, I think they've gone off the deep end of reason. Making a Lord of War is also poor form, IMO.

 Rayvon wrote:
Not really keen on the chariot thing, not sure what its got to do with the whole viking / norse theme, its not that ridiculous in the grand scheme of 40k fluff though, just not appropriate for a space marine army in my opinion.

Vikings only had three Vehicles
>Long Boats
>Chariots
>Sleds [Pulled by Dogs or Reindeer]
Logan's Ride is all three in one, How could it be more Viking?

 heartserenade wrote:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA WHAT IS THIS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA This is so over the top the ones who are over the top are calling these over the top.

I'm literally loling. I think I need to buy this thing for the sheer ridiculousness.

My ribs hurt.

The general response I got was this from folks in person. So dumb, I should buy one. When you've gone into the realm of "ironic purchases", something has gone a-foul.

Unless you're Hot Topic. And your target audience is "stupid teens with LCD placating schlock." Oh,... wait...

 Anpu42 wrote:

 Rayvon wrote:
Not really keen on the chariot thing, not sure what its got to do with the whole viking / norse theme, its not that ridiculous in the grand scheme of 40k fluff though, just not appropriate for a space marine army in my opinion.

Vikings only had three Vehicles
>Long Boats
>Chariots
>Sleds [Pulled by Dogs or Reindeer]
Logan's Ride is all three in one, How could it be more Viking?

To be honest I never really realised they had chariots, sleds I know of, but never heard of them having chariots, I guess they were more for transport than fighting.
I guess it makes them more applicable than I thought.

 Rayvon wrote:

 Anpu42 wrote:

 Rayvon wrote:
Not really keen on the chariot thing, not sure what its got to do with the whole viking / norse theme, its not that ridiculous in the grand scheme of 40k fluff though, just not appropriate for a space marine army in my opinion.

Vikings only had three Vehicles
>Long Boats
>Chariots
>Sleds [Pulled by Dogs or Reindeer]
Logan's Ride is all three in one, How could it be more Viking?

To be honest I never really realised they had chariots, sleds I know of, but never heard of them having chariots, I guess they were more for transport than fighting.
I guess it makes them more applicable than I thought.

Yep, do a google for Thor Chariot and you'll see examples.

 Rayvon wrote:

 Anpu42 wrote:

 Rayvon wrote:
Not really keen on the chariot thing, not sure what its got to do with the whole viking / norse theme, its not that ridiculous in the grand scheme of 40k fluff though, just not appropriate for a space marine army in my opinion.

Vikings only had three Vehicles
>Long Boats
>Chariots
>Sleds [Pulled by Dogs or Reindeer]
Logan's Ride is all three in one, How could it be more Viking?

To be honest I never really realised they had chariots, sleds I know of, but never heard of them having chariots, I guess they were more for transport than fighting.
I guess it makes them more applicable than I thought.

Well a lot of their gods have them.

I looked them up and I feel like it's a neat concept, but I think GW did a very poor implementation that makes it look too "Saturday Morning Cartoon" versus "Norse God of War".

I think the big problem is just throwing the mini on the back not making a pose of command holding the reigns. Also, it's the combo of wolves + hovering that takes the cake.

Is the only leaked picture of Logan on Chariot that terribly low-res one, where it's hard to see anything?

Anyway, reminds me of the Lothern Skycutter a little.

 Mysterious Pants wrote:
Is the only leaked picture of Logan on Chariot that terribly low-res one, where it's hard to see anything?

Yes, unfortunately.

 Howard A Treesong wrote:
I didn't care much for the dreadnoughts when they started putting marine helmets in them. But having a bare human head with a ginger topknot is just daft.

There is a Dread with a ginger topknot sticking out?

okay, so August 16th releases are?

1. logan on stormrider combo. (only way t get new logan.)
2. Champions of fenris?
3. Companies o fenris painting guide
4. Plastic rune priest?

Their gods did other things, too, like have sex with horses. That doesn't make it cool.

 Frozen Ocean wrote:
Their gods did other things, too, like have sex with horses. That doesn't make it cool.

And Thor dressed in drag.

That does not change the fact that Norse Chariots are factual.