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Some of these powers at least were in the pipeline already.

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So why was Devo-Max taken off the table?

How can we trust an establishment that covertly takes powers away from our parliament to push their support for fracking?

The words just ring incredibly hollow and a lot of people that i've spoken to feel the same way.

I don't think that particular method of natural resource extraction has any place anywhere in the UK, or even the world.

   
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This is a gross mistake, these 'extra powers' should have been finalised weeks if not months ago or not at all. To give the government some credit Cameron has promised some, but didn't specify and the work now it to make the promises of additional powers unvague.

IBut tt looks desperate and the Yes campaign are jumping all over it.

More importantly it looks like they were empty promises they now have to quantify because its suddenly important to do so.

The real problem is that Osborne isnt in charge rather than he is. That is not to credit Osbourne but a reality that the City have their hands in as have New Labour, which the city will want in because they will soon have hands on.

Also it would be the beginning of the end if Scotland does vote yes on the 18th, as its an indication that we don't really know who is behind the powerbrokering in London, only that they don't want to give away much. These people never do.

When you combine that with Salmond who wants to grasp for everything and things will get very ugly very fast during the transfer period.

In fairness its neither Cameron's nor Osbourne's fault. This poisoned chalice was prepared in the Blair years, but the public dont remember the cause only who was in office at the time.

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I think Alex Salmond is making a huge mistake pushing this. This will cause no end of calamity.

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 Medium of Death wrote:
So with George Osborne promising new powers to Scotland to be revealed in the next few days, does he think our heads button up the back?

George Osborne wrote:“You will see in the next few days a plan of action to give more powers to Scotland. More tax powers, more spending powers, more plans for powers over the welfare state.

That will be put into effect – the timetable for delivering that will be put into effect – the moment there is a no vote in the referendum. The clock will be ticking for delivering those powers – and then Scotland will have the best of both worlds.”


It's too late to vaguely "promise" Devo-Max, George.

Would you trust this man?




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What happens to the flag is the question that intrigues me.

I say scrap the Union Jack altogether, let the Scots keep their silly blue Saltire thing, while England and Wales have a cool new flag with a Lion and a Dragon or something.

   
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My wife and mother-in-law (Japanese) were asking about this.

One option is to keep the current design. Probably the best option in order not to force Australia, New Zealand, Hawaii and so on to change their flags too.

Another one would be to replace the blue areas with Welsh green. You would have to keep the white saltire b/g to the red diagonals or it would violate the laws of heraldry. Or you could put the green on the bottom half only and take the blue off the top.

The Cornish would probably like the black of St Piran's flag to be included. That could look pretty badass.

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Pan-Arab coloured flags do look pretty awesome. Just wait until you get the EDL/UKIP uproar though.

   
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The flag wont change.


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 angelofvengeance wrote:
I think Alex Salmond is making a huge mistake pushing this. This will cause no end of calamity.


Not for him, President Salmond will have his time with the toys and glory days. He knows it will end in madness and doesn't care.

These sorts of politicans, and the category accounts for the vast majority of all parties, are out only for themselves. That is the nature of our sick society. The last honest government we had was under John Major, and that was only honest because he was, the rest of his government wasn't. You will have to got back to Callaghan and Heath for a PM and party that tried to have the nations interest at heart.

This rot is on both sides of the border, Yes or No will not make a difference to the calibre of people leading the peoples of these islands.

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On an Express Elevator to Hell!!

Article by Charlie Brooker about the subject is well worth a read..

David Cameron can’t help the No campaign – he’s less popular in Scotland than Windows 8

The first rule of panic mode is you don’t talk about panic mode. And this is purely for personal reasons, but I don’t want Scotland to reject us

It used to be unthinkable. Now it’s thinkable. In fact, in some minds, it’s already been thought. Scotland might be voting yes to independence and splitting from the rest of the union. I’m not Scottish, and I’m therefore powerless to intervene, although I would personally prefer Scotland to stay – but only for entirely selfish and superficial reasons. Reason one: I’d rather not be lumbered with a Tory government from now until the day the moon crashes into the Thames. Two: I quite like Scotland and the Scottish, so it’s hard not to feel somehow personally affronted by their rejection. Why did you just unfriend and unfollow me, Scotland? What did I ever do to you? What’s that? Sorry, you’ll have to slow down a bit. Can’t understand a word you’re saying. Don’t you come with subtitles?! Ha ha ha! No, seriously, come back. Scotland? Scotland?

Apparently the consequences of a split in the union could be calamitous. The skies will fall and the seas will boil and the dead shall rise and the milk will spoil. There will be a great disturbance in the force. Duncan’s horses will turn and eat each other. Starving ravens will peck out your eyes halfway through the Great British Bake Off. Your dad will give birth to a jackal full of hornets. And in London’s last remaining DVD shop, Gregory’s Girl will quietly be re-categorised as “world cinema”.

If Scotland divorces Britain, the union jack will have to be redesigned, which is upsetting news for every prick with a union jack cushion on their stupid sofa in their stupid house. Minus the soothing, steadying blue of the saltire, the flag’s going to resemble a violent, blood-burst staining a shroud. Better to scrap it and start again with a new design that more accurately reflects the spirit of the age. I vote for a crying brown oblong.

The Queen is on the front pages, looking worried. DON’T LET ME BE THE LAST QUEEN OF SCOTLAND shrieked the Mirror, although MONARCH OF THE GLUM would’ve been a better headline. Or maybe BAH-MORAL.

The Sunday Times’s shock poll plunged Westminster into panic mode. The first rule of panic mode is that you don’t talk about panic mode: thus Alistair Darling could quickly be found on the airwaves denying there was any panic at all, adding that his voice only cracks like that when he’s feeling especially confident and what’s more, he always defecates in his own trousers during interviews.

Darling’s partly to blame for the swing in the polls anyway. I didn’t watch the first debate because I hadn’t actually heard of Scotland at the time, but the second one was a depressing car crash throughout in which Darling spluttered unconvincing, stuttery sentences like a beatboxer with hiccups.

Despite Darling’s panic-denial, Westminster’s response has more than a whiff of clammy desperation about it. George Osborne abruptly announced he would shortly unveil a range of new powers and benefits Scotland could look forward to in the event of a no vote. Increased powers of taxation. The ability to control the sea. Banknotes made of liquorice. Free stickers. If it votes no, Scotland will also receive the Angel of the North, the Eden Project, Stonehenge, the Cutty Sark, Alton Towers, a souvenir pen, a backrub and access to the new royal baby at weekends. It’s all a little undignified, like a man on his knees clutching his girlfriend’s ankles and sobbing that he can change. “It’s no’ you, it’s me,” replies Scotland, in its newly exotic foreign accent, before slinking off to have exciting sex with Greenland.

In case bribery doesn’t work, some of the stars of Westminster are apparently going to tour Scotland giving speeches in favour of staying with the union, even though dispatching politicians to whip up support is the worst thing that could possibly happen, like turning a hose on a drowning man.

Nonetheless, Ed Miliband will visit Scotland to inspire people. To do what? Join Isis? Incredibly, he’ll be teaming up with Gordon Brown. Sitting through back-to-back speeches by Brown and Miliband is a challenge comparable to eating 15 sheets of cardboard with a heavy cold. Expecting that duo to dazzle wavering voters is like entering Stephen Hawking into a clog-dancing contest.

Cameron can’t help here, of course. In Scotland, David Cameron is less popular than Windows 8. He’s the physical embodiment of everything a fair percentage of Scottish people hate: a ruddy-faced old Etonian walking around like he just inherited the place, sporting a permanently shiny chin as though he’s just enjoyed a buttery crumpet in front of the cricket. Worse still, he’s a lizard. An actual lizard. Send him to Scotland to make a speech and the moment a crowd member shouts “boo!” or hurls an egg, Cameron will “display” by raising the hyoid bone of his throat and enlarging his dewlap in a bid to intimidate potential predators. And that won’t play well on Scotland Tonight.

No, the only way Cameron’s going to win a single no vote is if he leaves his clothes on a beach and pretends to have swum off into oblivion, or vows to slam his balls in a car door if Scotland decides to stay. I don’t have a vote, but I vote for the latter.


http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/08/scottish-independence-david-cameron-no-campaign-windows-8

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NSFW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTYuCvuQmrw

But what does it mean?

I really think the media is fostering a lot of this hate when it really doesn't exist. A few of the questions on Newsnight last night focused on how social relations between Scotland and England would deteriorate. I don't think they will, unless that idea starts to get planted by the media.

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 Medium of Death wrote:


NSFW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTYuCvuQmrw

But what does it mean?

I really think the media is fostering a lot of this hate when it really doesn't exist. A few of the questions on Newsnight last night focused on how social relations between Scotland and England would deteriorate. I don't think they will, unless that idea starts to get planted by the media.

tinfoilhat.jpg


Sadly it is already happening.

Like the Labour MP who was egged for canvassing for No.

In Scotland it is racist minority among Yes activists who are to blame, generally nobody else.
South of the border the 'feth off Scotland' movement is restricted to chavs and other disenfranchised. This will die out with the referendum as its mainly there because many of the poor are sick about fresh this for Scotland, fresh that for Scotland, what is best for Scotland and are rightly thinking 'what about us?' They are then blaming Scotland rather than Westminster for the mishandling.

This is not what was happening at the stadium though. It was a different feth off Scotland, notably: "feth off Scotland, we are all voting Yes".
In other words just pure short sighted crowd racism against Scots. Not happy with that and and apologise on behalf of the rest of my countrymen for the affront.

Nevertheless if a Yes vote occurs it may embolden the sort of racism we have been seeing the stirrings of. It is already difficult being English in parts of Scotland, a sense of nationalistic victory can boil over into some serious discrimination and recrimination.

South of the border as things unravel there will be a lot of bitterness. The breakup of the UK will set the ball rolling and likely lead to a steep decline. The run on the pound now is just the beginning, UK may lose its place on the G8, may lose its seat on the Security Council, and if that goes we lose the Falklands, possibly Gibraltar also and much of our trade muscle. Then comes a decline of the city as a banking leader etc.
It can turn very ugly from here on in, worst thing is that our politicians are too short sighted to do anything much.

Scotland will find a rude shock in Europe, and an increasing hostile southern border as people remember that that referendum was about what is best for Scotland and Scotland alone, and the result will be marked decline in income and lifestyle both sides of the border over the course of the next five to ten years.

This will get ugly unless Scotland votes no, and there is nothing those south of the border can do about it.

If the football fans had any idea what was at stake they dare not will the Scots to vote yes, but they are just football fans so...

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I've been to Scotland a few times (no mean feat when you live on the South Coast) and as you might expect, I've always found the majority of Scots more than welcoming.

I found Inverness was one location where one or two individuals gave you funny looks when they heard your accent. It happens if you travel too far into Wales as well.

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On another matter, there's talk that if Scotland stays and gets more powers, then this should apply to England and Wales as well i.e. there would be a UK parliament, an English parliament, a Scottish parliament and a Welsh parliament - effectively the United States of Britain.

Thoughts? And where would you put the English parliament? Many people in England are just as ambivalent about being ruled from London as the Scots and Welsh. The phrase, "Metropolitan elite" - in reference to the inhabitants of the capital - has been bandied about a lot over the last few years and it rankles with the rest of the population. Many MPs base themselves in London regardless of where their constituency is and this gives out an image of elitists out of touch with their voters trying to rule the UK from a London bubble. This is something I'd like to see change.

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 Flashman wrote:
What happens to the flag is the question that intrigues me.

I say scrap the Union Jack altogether, let the Scots keep their silly blue Saltire thing, while England and Wales have a cool new flag with a Lion and a Dragon or something.
We can just keep it the same. That's exactly what the Czechs did.

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 Flashman wrote:
I've been to Scotland a few times (no mean feat when you live on the South Coast) and as you might expect, I've always found the majority of Scots more than welcoming.

I found Inverness was one location where one or two individuals gave you funny looks when they heard your accent. It happens if you travel too far into Wales as well.

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On another matter, there's talk that if Scotland stays and gets more powers, then this should apply to England and Wales as well i.e. there would be a UK parliament, an English parliament, a Scottish parliament and a Welsh parliament - effectively the United States of Britain.

Thoughts? And where would you put the English parliament? Many people in England are just as ambivalent about being ruled from London as the Scots and Welsh. The phrase, "Metropolitan elite" - in reference to the inhabitants of the capital - has been bandied about a lot over the last few years and it rankles with the rest of the population. Many MPs base themselves in London regardless of where their constituency is and this gives out an image of elitists out of touch with their voters trying to rule the UK from a London bubble. This is something I'd like to see change.


Well thought through,

The traditional arternative parliament location is York.
Its not a bad choice, and its fairly small. A parliament capital doesnt need to be the largest connurbation. West Germany chose Bonn for that reason.

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Overseas analysis !



http://harddawn.com/why-america-must-say-no-to-scotlands-independence-from-great-britain/


In September of 2014, the people of Scotland will vote on whether to declare independence from the United Kingdom. There is no word yet on whether the powers that be in London will allow this to happen without a fight, but it certainly makes global politics that much more treacherous. The investigation that follows proves that an independent Scotland sets a very bad precedent for turbulent provinces the world over.

From Juarez to Quebec, Kabul to California, radical elements seek to disrupt national power with such breakaway movements. If the reality of Russia’s Chechnya is any indication, this is a disastrous notion that may end in complete societal collapse. A closer look at the specific parties agitating for this upheaval shows that socialism is crucial element of this agenda.

A Spirited Culture, With British Protection

The Scottish are an admirable people with a rich history. They speak with a thick, guttural brogue that sounds more like German than contemporary English. Their love of soccer is only eclipsed by their love of whiskey. When the two are combined, we have a dangerous trend known as “hooliganism” in which white people riot in the streets and burn automobiles. Many of the most dangerous hooligans tend to be unemployed and dependent on “the dole.”

The dole is the British version of welfare and it is far more entrenched than any American system. Huge sections of Scottish villages and cities are composed of public housing projects known as, “council estates” and here, heroin addiction is common. Psychological health and street crime are two additional crucial issues facing Scots today.

Because of these problems, the Scottish people are not known to be particularly warm or friendly. They lack the maternal obsessiveness of the Spaniards or Romans. Their boys are not meek, but because they lack a normal family structure, they’re often morally undeveloped. The love of God and Faith found in America is unheard of in Scotland.

Without morality, many Scots tend to lack vision. Few are truly ambitious, and this can also be traced back to widespread use of government handouts. This dilemma is manifested in a physicality that is often flabby and slow. They do not prize a healthy and muscled physique as boys do in the United States. A weakness of body and spirit may explain their low birth rates. Scottish women take little care with their personal appearance, and the men are not endowed with any propensity for lovemaking, as the old saying goes.

Could Scotland Become the Next Cuba or Afghanistan?

It is interesting to note that the Scottish ploy for independence includes many socialist goals, such as minimum wage schemes and nationalized childcare. The radical groups pushing for this are also demanding control of any nuclear weapons on Scottish soil. Furthermore, they want to immediately join the European Union and form a military. Most offensive of all, they are attempting to seize North Sea oil reserves by bypassing American approval. These are not the methods of a nation which intends to be friendly the to the interests of the United States.

Scotland clearly falls within the American sphere of protection and has benefited greatly as a province of our favorite European ally. We, as Americans, have a responsibility to stop the rise of socialism all over the world, and that includes in anarchy-prone provinces like Scotland.

This proposition may appear difficult with liberal control of the White House, but our Congress still has much power in the realm of foreign policy. Republicans need to formulate a strategy and act quickly on this dangerous trend.

While we appreciate the Scottish people as individuals, they lack the maturity, depth and strength to operate as a nation in the sophisticated world of global geopolitics. There is too much at stake, particularly in a day when terrorists seize minor countries and use them as bases for their international schemes. The lessons of Cuba, Chechnya and Afghanistan teach us one simple thing: America must say no to Scottish independence now!



Strong stuff, sure to make our northern cousins think twice.

How dare they have oil without considering America !

Bonus points for use of an English thug in Germany to illustrate Scottish hooligans too




... oh well, guess that's a done deal then.


The above site is quite an eye opener.

There's a follow up article that reveals the , inevitable, chain of events that will occur if Scotland does leave

http://harddawn.com/if-scotland-were-independent-timeline-tragedy/


which is quite chilling indeed.


2016: In an Attempt to Gain Momentum for the Scottish Nationalist Party, Alex Salmond Announces Ill-Fated Trillion-Dollar Space Program to Inspire Scottish Pride

2021: New Military Junta Signs Treaties With Russia, China, North Korea

2029: France, Russia, North Korea Declare War on U.S.

2029: United Nations Dissolved, World War III Begins



That's quite a timetable, and certainly says something about the Scottish work ethic.

Certainly always useful to see how things are viewed overseas.

I'm quite tempted by the ( no doubt well researched) articles elsewhere on the site such as " Many Atheists Believe That Eating Puppy Fetuses Will Cure Their Sexual Impotency. Here’s Why They’re Wrong".




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.... there's possibly a black hole joke here too but let's not.


There is, it seems, some doubt over the veracity of the Palin tweet.

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 reds8n wrote:
Overseas analysis !



http://harddawn.com/why-america-must-say-no-to-scotlands-independence-from-great-britain/
Spoiler:


In September of 2014, the people of Scotland will vote on whether to declare independence from the United Kingdom. There is no word yet on whether the powers that be in London will allow this to happen without a fight, but it certainly makes global politics that much more treacherous. The investigation that follows proves that an independent Scotland sets a very bad precedent for turbulent provinces the world over.

From Juarez to Quebec, Kabul to California, radical elements seek to disrupt national power with such breakaway movements. If the reality of Russia’s Chechnya is any indication, this is a disastrous notion that may end in complete societal collapse. A closer look at the specific parties agitating for this upheaval shows that socialism is crucial element of this agenda.

A Spirited Culture, With British Protection

The Scottish are an admirable people with a rich history. They speak with a thick, guttural brogue that sounds more like German than contemporary English. Their love of soccer is only eclipsed by their love of whiskey. When the two are combined, we have a dangerous trend known as “hooliganism” in which white people riot in the streets and burn automobiles. Many of the most dangerous hooligans tend to be unemployed and dependent on “the dole.”

The dole is the British version of welfare and it is far more entrenched than any American system. Huge sections of Scottish villages and cities are composed of public housing projects known as, “council estates” and here, heroin addiction is common. Psychological health and street crime are two additional crucial issues facing Scots today.

Because of these problems, the Scottish people are not known to be particularly warm or friendly. They lack the maternal obsessiveness of the Spaniards or Romans. Their boys are not meek, but because they lack a normal family structure, they’re often morally undeveloped. The love of God and Faith found in America is unheard of in Scotland.

Without morality, many Scots tend to lack vision. Few are truly ambitious, and this can also be traced back to widespread use of government handouts. This dilemma is manifested in a physicality that is often flabby and slow. They do not prize a healthy and muscled physique as boys do in the United States. A weakness of body and spirit may explain their low birth rates. Scottish women take little care with their personal appearance, and the men are not endowed with any propensity for lovemaking, as the old saying goes.

Could Scotland Become the Next Cuba or Afghanistan?

It is interesting to note that the Scottish ploy for independence includes many socialist goals, such as minimum wage schemes and nationalized childcare. The radical groups pushing for this are also demanding control of any nuclear weapons on Scottish soil. Furthermore, they want to immediately join the European Union and form a military. Most offensive of all, they are attempting to seize North Sea oil reserves by bypassing American approval. These are not the methods of a nation which intends to be friendly the to the interests of the United States.

Scotland clearly falls within the American sphere of protection and has benefited greatly as a province of our favorite European ally. We, as Americans, have a responsibility to stop the rise of socialism all over the world, and that includes in anarchy-prone provinces like Scotland.

This proposition may appear difficult with liberal control of the White House, but our Congress still has much power in the realm of foreign policy. Republicans need to formulate a strategy and act quickly on this dangerous trend.

While we appreciate the Scottish people as individuals, they lack the maturity, depth and strength to operate as a nation in the sophisticated world of global geopolitics. There is too much at stake, particularly in a day when terrorists seize minor countries and use them as bases for their international schemes. The lessons of Cuba, Chechnya and Afghanistan teach us one simple thing: America must say no to Scottish independence now!



Strong stuff, sure to make our northern cousins think twice.

How dare they have oil without considering America !

Bonus points for use of an English thug in Germany to illustrate Scottish hooligans too


What the hell did I just read? I think I lost more brain cells reading that than I would downing a bottle of 6 month old, turps barrel finished Whiskey.

 reds8n wrote:
.. are kilts safe in zero gravity ?

.... there's possibly a black hole joke here too but let's not.


There is, it seems, some doubt over the veracity of the Palin tweet.


Probably also something about getting a better view of Uranus.

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... The site's a spoof yeah ?



The Palin tweet was claimed to be genuine but since then doubt has been cast.


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 reds8n wrote:
Overseas analysis !



http://harddawn.com/why-america-must-say-no-to-scotlands-independence-from-great-britain/


In September of 2014, the people of Scotland will vote on whether to declare independence from the United Kingdom. There is no word yet on whether the powers that be in London will allow this to happen without a fight, but it certainly makes global politics that much more treacherous. The investigation that follows proves that an independent Scotland sets a very bad precedent for turbulent provinces the world over.

From Juarez to Quebec, Kabul to California, radical elements seek to disrupt national power with such breakaway movements. If the reality of Russia’s Chechnya is any indication, this is a disastrous notion that may end in complete societal collapse. A closer look at the specific parties agitating for this upheaval shows that socialism is crucial element of this agenda.

A Spirited Culture, With British Protection

The Scottish are an admirable people with a rich history. They speak with a thick, guttural brogue that sounds more like German than contemporary English. Their love of soccer is only eclipsed by their love of whiskey. When the two are combined, we have a dangerous trend known as “hooliganism” in which white people riot in the streets and burn automobiles. Many of the most dangerous hooligans tend to be unemployed and dependent on “the dole.”

The dole is the British version of welfare and it is far more entrenched than any American system. Huge sections of Scottish villages and cities are composed of public housing projects known as, “council estates” and here, heroin addiction is common. Psychological health and street crime are two additional crucial issues facing Scots today.

Because of these problems, the Scottish people are not known to be particularly warm or friendly. They lack the maternal obsessiveness of the Spaniards or Romans. Their boys are not meek, but because they lack a normal family structure, they’re often morally undeveloped. The love of God and Faith found in America is unheard of in Scotland.

Without morality, many Scots tend to lack vision. Few are truly ambitious, and this can also be traced back to widespread use of government handouts. This dilemma is manifested in a physicality that is often flabby and slow. They do not prize a healthy and muscled physique as boys do in the United States. A weakness of body and spirit may explain their low birth rates. Scottish women take little care with their personal appearance, and the men are not endowed with any propensity for lovemaking, as the old saying goes.

Could Scotland Become the Next Cuba or Afghanistan?

It is interesting to note that the Scottish ploy for independence includes many socialist goals, such as minimum wage schemes and nationalized childcare. The radical groups pushing for this are also demanding control of any nuclear weapons on Scottish soil. Furthermore, they want to immediately join the European Union and form a military. Most offensive of all, they are attempting to seize North Sea oil reserves by bypassing American approval. These are not the methods of a nation which intends to be friendly the to the interests of the United States.

Scotland clearly falls within the American sphere of protection and has benefited greatly as a province of our favorite European ally. We, as Americans, have a responsibility to stop the rise of socialism all over the world, and that includes in anarchy-prone provinces like Scotland.

This proposition may appear difficult with liberal control of the White House, but our Congress still has much power in the realm of foreign policy. Republicans need to formulate a strategy and act quickly on this dangerous trend.

While we appreciate the Scottish people as individuals, they lack the maturity, depth and strength to operate as a nation in the sophisticated world of global geopolitics. There is too much at stake, particularly in a day when terrorists seize minor countries and use them as bases for their international schemes. The lessons of Cuba, Chechnya and Afghanistan teach us one simple thing: America must say no to Scottish independence now!



Strong stuff, sure to make our northern cousins think twice.

How dare they have oil without considering America !

Bonus points for use of an English thug in Germany to illustrate Scottish hooligans too




What a load of xenophobic, anti Scottish crap. That's a parody right, in the same tradition as The Onion? Please tell me the authors not actually serious.


   
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So... if Scottland secede... maybe the US can entice them to be the 51st state? (or is it up 58th state? )

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*I think.

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Nah... Scotland wouldn't abandon a partnership with one country just to join up as an extremely junior partner in a larger political unio... wait a second...

   
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Labour MP's arrive in Glasgow. Given a warm welcome.




Most seem to have taken it in good humour.

Really can't stand the Labour party though.

   
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Oh man that's fantastic.
   
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Labour MP's arrive in Glasgow. Given a warm welcome.




Most seem to have taken it in good humour.

Really can't stand the Labour party though.


Imperial Masters? have they forgotten that we had a Scottish Prime Minister and Chanceller not that long ago?

Funny though.

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Britain has Scottish people in positions of power yes, but didn't David Cameron use a phrase along the lines of "we've had Scots in charge for the past two governments and look where's gotten us. Time to put an Englishman in charge". Its a bit of a moot point to say that there's Scots in Westminster, as well there's plenty of Scots that're voting No as well, that doesn't invalidate those who don't respect it. Given previous and the current government attitude toward's independence, they do come across as the codifier for imperialism (at least the Scots aren't being shot by British troops for one).

Meh, apparently the rest of the Commonwealth can shirk off the old empire, but with the last few parts Westminster's holding onto them with its teeth (and well that'd be the United Kingdom finally pushed off the big boy table).
   
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One would have hoped for an attitude that we have had British people in charge.


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Jeez...

Sorry, guys. Please accept this American's apology for the lunacy in those Harddawn* articles.





*Would be a great XXX parody of Red Dawn, and have as much journalistic merit. Wait. Hard...dawn. Say it fast... is that a satire site?

   
 
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