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I love those fighter bases . Although I do hope a standard sized game lets you run a number of ships, even if intro games are only 2-3 per side.

Davor wrote:

 Hulksmash wrote:
How big are they in relation to existing X-wing figures? Just curious. Game looks fun

My guess is, the Star Destroy is Millennium Falcon size and the Tantive IV is maybe X-wing (fighter) size.

The CR-90 is about the length of an X-wing, the VSD is longer and slightly wider than the Falcon.

Some more pics from a gaming website both from games and the booth.

http://www.crittohit.com/events/gen-con-2014-fantasy-flight-games-day-one

Some of the pics nabbed from the site warboss linked to:






Given the size of the star destroyer when viewed on the large table in that last pic, I can't imagine there will be that many ships used at once in this game. Despite comments to the contrary here, imo that thing is massive . If they put out a larger Imperial (rather than Victory class) destroyer, running one of those flanked by two Victory ships would take up most of your space already, assuming you want to be able to do any maneuvers.

Also, the mat is really interesting, with those lighter colored areas on each side. Could someone who is there measure what width the mat is, and what the width of those lighter sections are?

Well, damn. I guess I am going to need this after all. I wonder if they'll do another run of the starfield tiles?

Added to the OP and hot dang, that IST looks damn good!

So, what, hmm?

Maybe 5 inches tip to tail for the VSD?
2 inches for the Corvette, then 2-3 for the Nebulon B?

I believe the tables are 6x4, the lighter areas are deployment zones, and the corners mark the play area. I can ask next time I'm in the dealer room. Mind you, I'm eyeballing everything from my 15-20 minutes of hovering.

Interesting. So smaller ships/escorts are appear to be fighter sized. With medium warships likely being around Falcon sized. With the ISD possibly being the size of the new Decimator.

Honestly I was hoping for them to be slightly smaller and hoping more for a fleet scale game. I think Killkrazy was right when he said it's more task force sized. It just feels so much smaller than a game like BFG for example.

Models look great though. Going to be interesting to see their pricing for the ships and fighters.

The miniatures look far better now we have had a proper look at them.

Did anyone get a chance to play a demo game and can write a quick review and comments on how they work?

Yeah deffo getting this.

Team Covenant gameplay video...now with 100% more beards than last year!

 Platuan4th wrote:
I believe the tables are 6x4, the lighter areas are deployment zones, and the corners mark the play area. I can ask next time I'm in the dealer room. Mind you, I'm eyeballing everything from my 15-20 minutes of hovering.

Please do! You can ask with the idea of knowing the deployment zone size, or when it will be for sale, etc etc

If it's 6x4, I'll be thrilled! I picked up a 6x4 space mat and was thinking to hold out for Dropzone's eventual fleet game... but I would love to use it for this in the interim! Although if it's only 3 feet wide I may just cut it or otherwise mark off 6" on either side.

 Hulksmash wrote:
Interesting. So smaller ships/escorts are appear to be fighter sized. With medium warships likely being around Falcon sized. With the ISD possibly being the size of the new Decimator.

Honestly I was hoping for them to be slightly smaller and hoping more for a fleet scale game. I think Killkrazy was right when he said it's more task force sized. It just feels so much smaller than a game like BFG for example.

Models look great though. Going to be interesting to see their pricing for the ships and fighters.

If playing on a true 6'x4' table, it might be quite possible to play larger games, but they'd end up being as crowded as the battle at Endor was with the capital ships being tight against one another delivering old-school broadsides and risking collisions.

This just looks stunning...and here's me trying to save money

Tournament-sized game is 3'x6', I think they've planned for folks wanting epic battles

(This is revealed at 7:25 in the video above!)

Yeah, I'm still excited. But based on the size of the ships it really is likely to be between 3-8 ships per side with some fighter squadrons mixed in. Which isn't to far off from Gothic if you just consider the fighter "Escorts" from BFG (like frigates & destroyers).

Really interested in finding out the basic point level for tournament games as we can extrapolate a lot from the released ships if we know that

Hmmm, I might need to go down the FFG HQ/Store and see if they have any demos of this going on.

I can just ask on our facebook page But I haven't heard anything from them and they are in there daily.

Just finished the demo. They said it will be for sale January/February. Table size is 3ftx3ft for the starter/demo, tournament size is 3ftx6ft.

I'll wite up a run down later. I took notes and more pictures!

Looks like another "must have".


Why?
Why is FFG so good at what they do?
Can they not underachieve like their other "competitors"?
(and I barely use a straight face saying that).

 Platuan4th wrote:
Just finished the demo. They said it will be for sale January/February. Table size is 3ftx3ft for the starter/demo, tournament size is 3ftx6ft.

I'll wite up a run down later. I took notes and more pictures!

So glad they use the same table sizes. I'd hate to have to go into other vendors sites and complain about their logos on a 4'x5' mat , I think they have heard enough from me about that on the current sizes.

 Theophony wrote:
I'd hate to have to go into other vendors sites and complain about their logos on a 4'x5' mat

AHAHAHH!

The Star Destroyer looks about 80 to 100mm long. That is small enough that some of the larger Star Destroyer types could feasibly be made as a model for the game, which must be part of the thinking.

VSD is about 5 inches. Everything looksngreat in person, getting a demo will be a real feat.

Starting at 31:00 in the video (basically the last minute and a half) they zoom in all the cards. They also discuss standard game size.

The FFG employee said this is 300 points.

Some ship costs:

Victory I - 75
Victory II - 85
Tie Squadron - 9

Corvette - 38

He said the maximum number of Victory ships you can have in this size game is 3. This is because there is a mandatory commander cost in the range of 25 - 35 points, and of course you'll want some squadrons.

I've gotta also thank FFG for trying to have some logical consistency to their measurements (not in terms of scale).

I'm one of those oddballs who LOVES playing X-wing at the Epic scale, and had a custom play-mat done in 6' x 3', which in this hobby is kind of an odd-ball number.

Now said investment gets to serve double duty! Bring on the pre-orders!!!!!!

Yeah, I'll be cutting a foot off of my 6x4 mat here shortly

Wonderful stuff guys, keep the comments coming from those who have had a look!

Guessing this might be a nightmare to get a demo of as it's probably pretty popular?

Thank you to those who are updating us from Gencon. The game looks like a lot of fun. Can't wait to see more upgrade cards and what the first Commanders (Admirals?) do.