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 adamsouza wrote:


As long as it spawns Spyders I'm on board

Transport capacity - 3 Transcendent C'tan

 adamsouza wrote:

Transport Capacity: 400 Necron Warriors. No more, no less.

 vipoid wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:

Transport Capacity: 400 Necron Warriors. No more, no less.

I'd buy it.

Who needs a transport capacity if we can use the Monolith's corridor to teleport nearly everything?

 adamsouza wrote:
Think about it GW, a $140 model that spawns $33 model that spawn models from a $36.25 box set.

Lol!

 RunicFIN wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:
Think about it GW, a $140 model that spawns $33 model that spawn models from a $36.25 box set.

Lol!

Now imagine that army facing off against a Demon Factory list.

By the end of Round 6 there is no more room on the board to move

I´ve now seen/read rumours stating the book is coming in January, and others saying sooner. Which is it ( if that can be stated for sure anyway ) ?

Fluff involving the Silent King to be furthered a bit.

Some kind of experimentation on humans/astartes/something for transference.

Further descriptions of Trazyn's collection/more trolling.

More infantry focus play wise, or viability.

A gearset, or specific overlord type (nemesor), that's a backfield buffer, maybe an ordinance shot.

I want Trazyn to be quite strong - maybe so something that resembles sorcery.

That way I can finally make Doctor Doom and his Doombots.

 vipoid wrote:
That way I can finally make Doctor Doom and his Doombots.

I have a collection of Doctor Doom/Doom Bots figures from Heroclix and Fistful of Heroes just gathering dust. Fielding them as Necrons could be highly amusing.

In general, rules that saw some thought-work. Not some stupid stuff like Trazyn who got a weapon that only does something against the kind of units it should never engage to begin with.

 Sigvatr wrote:
In general, rules that saw some thought-work. Not some stupid stuff like Trazyn who got a weapon that only does something against the kind of units it should never engage to begin with.

It's somewhat depressing when you have a HQ who can possess any 'sergeant' or 'special weapon model' (effectively) to come back to life, yet most people's first thought it 'why would I want him back?'.

Also, for a collector of artefacts, it would be nice if he brought a few with him.

He cant do that, there collectors items. they are worthless outside the box.

Vulgar wrote:
Fluff involving the Silent King to be furthered a bit.

More infantry focus play wise, or viability.

A gearset, or specific overlord type (nemesor), that's a backfield buffer, maybe an ordinance shot.

Man, I would love the Silent King to make more of an appearance, or come back as a LoW. I actually really respect him fluff-wise. And how could we be more infantry focused? The depressing thing I've been feeling lately is most of our "supposedly good" shooting comes from standard troops, and Tesla Destructors.

And if they have a generic Bufflord, I will be the happiest person alive. I've actually, admittedly, grown tired of playing Necrons because Overlords have such little you can do with them. Not even just what people SHOULD do with him, he just doesn't have the options to do much. And I feel Necrons lack any real synergy amongst most of their units.


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 RunicFIN wrote:
I´ve now seen/read rumours stating the book is coming in January, and others saying sooner. Which is it ( if that can be stated for sure anyway ) ?

Well, GW has apparently been a little more airtight with their rumors, so we really have no way of telling, honestly.

 Sigvatr wrote:
In general, rules that saw some thought-work. Not some stupid stuff like Trazyn who got a weapon that only does something against the kind of units it should never engage to begin with.

That is a good point. I've never been able to use his weapon effectively.

Hopefully the new book will give Necrons some form of focus. Right now, they are all over the place. Are they shooty, are they choppy, are they vehicle heavy, are they elite, are they horde, what are they supposed to be? I'm not saying narrow them down to a single point, but maybe put the focus on a couple of things. That seems to be the way they are doing 7th edition codexes now.

To me, silver tide is the ideal "fluff" build for Necrons. All of the fluff is around vast, unending hordes of robots that just never seem to stay down. Warriors should be in squads of 10 to 30 models.

 ClassicCarraway wrote:
Hopefully the new book will give Necrons some form of focus. Right now, they are all over the place. Are they shooty, are they choppy, are they vehicle heavy, are they elite, are they horde, what are they supposed to be? I'm not saying narrow them down to a single point, but maybe put the focus on a couple of things. That seems to be the way they are doing 7th edition codexes now.

To me, silver tide is the ideal "fluff" build for Necrons. All of the fluff is around vast, unending hordes of robots that just never seem to stay down. Warriors should be in squads of 10 to 30 models.

I'm guessing the Infinite Phalanx apoc formation will get incorporated into the new codex.

 jasper76 wrote:

 ClassicCarraway wrote:
Hopefully the new book will give Necrons some form of focus. Right now, they are all over the place. Are they shooty, are they choppy, are they vehicle heavy, are they elite, are they horde, what are they supposed to be? I'm not saying narrow them down to a single point, but maybe put the focus on a couple of things. That seems to be the way they are doing 7th edition codexes now.

To me, silver tide is the ideal "fluff" build for Necrons. All of the fluff is around vast, unending hordes of robots that just never seem to stay down. Warriors should be in squads of 10 to 30 models.

I'm guessing the Infinite Phalanx apoc formation will get incorporated into the new codex.

Probably won't happen, but I also like the idea of Monoliths becoming a form of drop pod for Necrons. It drops in on Turn 1, can't move after that, but acts as a deployment node for any non-canoptek units in reserve, starting on turn 1. I know they can sort of already be used in that way, but being able to guarantee arrival and deployment on turn 1 is, to me, a good trade off for being immobile (its not like they move that much anyway).

They have to do something to make Monoliths better. I don't care what, I don't care if the go up in points, but they have to get better! They look so friggin cool on the board.

Seconded Jasper. They are the reasons I field Necrons, only to realise they are rubbish.

 jasper76 wrote:
They have to do something to make Monoliths better. I don't care what, I don't care if the go up in points, but they have to get better! They look so friggin cool on the board.

Gauss Flux Arcs become the same statline as a Gauss Blaster. Particle Whip becomes AP2. Special Rule: Advanced Targeting Protocols - Gauss Flux Arcs may still fire at full BS, even if the Particle Whip was fired this turn. Then, take into account whatever they make Living Metal become. Also, allow the portal to not be a shooting attack, but more of an ability, so you can fire it even if you fire Ordnance. Then, increase cost by about 30+ points, and you should be good.

Adeptus Astartes get turn 1 DS with Drop Pods.
Grey Knights get turn 1 DS with a formation

I could see turn 1 DS for Monoliths.

Its mobility is what bothers me. Otherwise perhaps you could have flayed ones actually mildly useful and charging out of it.

Jaq Draco lives wrote:

Its mobility is what bothers me. Otherwise perhaps you could have flayed ones actually mildly useful and charging out of it.

Speaking of which, I wonder if and how they're going to solve the Flayed One problem.

 jasper76 wrote:

Jaq Draco lives wrote:

Its mobility is what bothers me. Otherwise perhaps you could have flayed ones actually mildly useful and charging out of it.

Speaking of which, I wonder if and how they're going to solve the Flayed One problem.

Make them Initiative 4 and Troops and they wouldn't be terrible.

 jasper76 wrote:

Jaq Draco lives wrote:

Its mobility is what bothers me. Otherwise perhaps you could have flayed ones actually mildly useful and charging out of it.

Speaking of which, I wonder if and how they're going to solve the Flayed One problem.

Well, 6" bubble of -1 LD, give them Fear, fearless, and Shred. 15 points per model.

I approve of Fearless. They are suppossed to be crazies after all.

 adamsouza wrote:

 jasper76 wrote:

Jaq Draco lives wrote:

Its mobility is what bothers me. Otherwise perhaps you could have flayed ones actually mildly useful and charging out of it.

Speaking of which, I wonder if and how they're going to solve the Flayed One problem.

Make them I4 and Troops and they wouldn't be terrible.

I still disagree with them being Troops. They're infected with a virus that's making them go insane, therefor, no Overlord would use them to capture objectives. They should still be Elites. It's not like our Elite slot is really crowded with good options right now anyway.

 krodarklorr wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:
Make them I4 and Troops and they wouldn't be terrible.

I still disagree with them being Troops. They're infected with a virus that's making them go insane, therefor, no Overlord would use them to capture objectives. They should still be Elites. It's not like our Elite slot is really crowded with good options right now anyway.

I concede to your logic about them not being troops.

Initiative 4, Fearless, and a huge maximum squad size (20-30)

 adamsouza wrote:

 krodarklorr wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:
Make them I4 and Troops and they wouldn't be terrible.

I still disagree with them being Troops. They're infected with a virus that's making them go insane, therefor, no Overlord would use them to capture objectives. They should still be Elites. It's not like our Elite slot is really crowded with good options right now anyway.

I concede to your logic about them not being troops.

Initiative 4, Fearless, and a huge maximum squad size (20-30)

The Initative I see as unlikely, but would be hella nice to have. Fearless should be an auto include, but I think they would still need a few things. I thought the 6" bubble of -1 LD, combined with Fear, could make them useful for Deep Striking and forcing morale and LD tests a bit easier. Would add more synergy to the army.