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 IHateNids wrote:
Like we don't get that anyway, just slightly less than Eldar?

Eh, not really. At least from what I've seen. I've only seen a lot of hate come from Morgoth, and his opinion doesn't really matter anyway.

 krodarklorr wrote:

 IHateNids wrote:
Like we don't get that anyway, just slightly less than Eldar?

Eh, not really. At least from what I've seen. I've only seen a lot of hate come from Morgoth, and his opinion doesn't really matter anyway.

Morgoth is more of a Troll than anything to be bothered about.

It's more often found in other army threads like "How do I kill a CCBLord with Space Marines" or other similarly anal questions

 IHateNids wrote:

 krodarklorr wrote:

 IHateNids wrote:
Like we don't get that anyway, just slightly less than Eldar?

Eh, not really. At least from what I've seen. I've only seen a lot of hate come from Morgoth, and his opinion doesn't really matter anyway.

Morgoth is more of a Troll than anything to be bothered about.

It's more often found in other army threads like "How do I kill a CCBLord with Space Marines" or other similarly anal questions

Well, yeah. The CCB will be nerfed or more expensive, definitely. Other than that, Space Marines can deal with anything Necrons have easily.

Retcon the newcron gak that Matt Ward did and give them back their old fluff as soulless warriors for the C'tan.

 The Internet is for Khorn wrote:
Retcon the newcron gak that Matt Ward did and give them back their old fluff as soulless warriors for the C'tan.

Fun fact: The 5th edition fluff is honestly probably more in line with the original 2nd edition Necron Raiders concept than them having no individual personality is.

That aside, the fluff already has plenty of mindless or omnicidal tomb worlds running around. If you play one of those the only thing we're genuinely missing from 3rd edition fluff is the Deceiver messing around with things, and you could easily fix that one simply by making him have a shared consciousness between all his shards, only feigning weakness as a long con.

 IHateNids wrote:
Like we don't get that anyway, just slightly less than Eldar?

There are about 50 threads with Nerf Eldar for every 10 threads that say Nerf Tau and 1 thread that says Nerf Necron.

 The Internet is for Khorn wrote:
Retcon the newcron gak that Matt Ward did and give them back their old fluff as soulless warriors for the C'tan.

Please no. I don't want an army of mindless robots. As people have said, we don't need metal tyranids. I like the idea behind the new fluff, whether or not you think it was executed properly.

I realize this may be crazy talk but,
What if in the upcoming codex
They took the new fluff
and
(now stay with me here)
...
Executed it properly.


That sound right there?
That was the sound of me blowing your mind.

 krodarklorr wrote:

 Pyeatt wrote:
Hey man... If they could keep everything about the same, but give things proper AP values so I don't have to dig through FAQs... I'd be pretty happy. Also, flayed ones are too cool to be so pathetic.

Also, Plasma. Or a Plasma equivalent. Where is all our AP 2 for being the most advanced race in the galaxy?

Well, to be fair, Necron warfare tech was developed millions of years ago, and they mostly fought against Eldar and Ork/Krork before taking their nap. Neither of those armies are known for heavily armoured infantry, so the Necrons would not have had a need to every develop a large number of AP2 small arms. It makes sense that Necrons can easily deal with enemy vehicle armour and light infantry (two things that feature heavily in Eldar and Ork combat styles) but struggle against heavy infantry.

Since the transferance and awakening, I'd imagine that Necron technology advancements are not that frequent, so adapting to heavy infantry armies like the various marine chapters/legions will take some time. Of course, given GW's love of AP2 (and apparent hatred of terminators), I'd fully expect the new Necron codex to be loaded with AP2 ranged weaponry.

 skoffs wrote:
I realize this may be crazy talk but,
What if in the upcoming codex
They took the new fluff
and
(now stay with me here)
...
Executed it properly.


That sound right there?
That was the sound of me blowing your mind.

Yes, please.

 krodarklorr wrote:

 skoffs wrote:
I realize this may be crazy talk but,
What if in the upcoming codex
They took the new fluff
and
(now stay with me here)
...
Executed it properly.


That sound right there?
That was the sound of me blowing your mind.

Yes, please.

I wish, otherwise, I'll just be blissfully ignorant of the new fluff and delude myself with my fan fluff

Fan fluff? Meh. Not sure that would consist of, but I'm fine if they just keep the current fluff, but patch it up a little.

Well, after reading the formations, Relics, and Warlord traits from the BA campaign, I have hopes for the new necron codex.

No, you fool!
Keep your expectations low!
Low, I say!

 skoffs wrote:
No, you fool!
Keep your expectations low!
Low, I say!

This is the key to happiness.

Hope is the breeding ground for disappointment.

 docdoom77 wrote:

 skoffs wrote:
No, you fool!
Keep your expectations low!
Low, I say!

This is the key to happiness.

Hope is the breeding ground for disappointment.

This is true, but the next formations and relics look really cool, and still pretty good IMO. Therefor, the codex will most likely have the same feel to it.

I have a friend who works close by the GW teams and is in GW himself he says that most of the codex will be the same there on about making all hq's multi part plastic sets instead of finecast (hooray) we are expected a new troop. Tesla is to be re evaluated so are Wraiths Lychguard and flayed ones reevaluated.

Yh I think thats all.
I cant wait

My expectations have been revised from mildly pessimistic to cautiously optimistic about the new Necrons based on the formations. RP is still a thing, mechanics seem familiar in terms of what the buffs are meant to provide. Warlord tables, artifacts and formation buffs are already wicked with that supplement...the new codex can only add to that. I hope it's a sign of good things to come.

Also, have you guys considered that, maybe, since the book is supposed to be hella thick, that maybe they're adding Dynasty "tactics", and possible ways to create your own Dynasty?


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I mean, one Dynasty already has it's own formations and relics from that campaign. Just saying....

Yeah dude. I can see it. Chapter Tactics for Crons. From what I've seen already, there is already a dynasty that Id be willing to adopt and consider it a massive improvement. If I get an Orbital Bombardment option, as rumored, I'm gonna flip my gak.

I just hope there is something in there for dealing with T8 Monstrous Creatures, besides the Deathmarks.

My regular opponent always takes a Wraithknight. He only ever takes one, never spamming them, but if you aren't kitted to deal with it, it only takes one Wraithknight to ruin your day. Lol.

I'm hoping for some clarification as to if Anrakyr's MiTM ability can be used from the back of a Command barge.

Seeing as how most of the new formations require a unit of Immortals or two, having them not completely suck would be pretty good. Only thing with Anrakyr is that he isn't very survivable on his own, and the barge gimps his ability.

Assuming the characters can take them at all

Anrakyr, like all named Necron HQ's except the Maynarkh one can no longer use a CCB.

I meant assuming they can in the new codex

 docdoom77 wrote:
I just hope there is something in there for dealing with T8 Monstrous Creatures, besides the Deathmarks.

My regular opponent always takes a Wraithknight. He only ever takes one, never spamming them, but if you aren't kitted to deal with it, it only takes one Wraithknight to ruin your day. Lol.

Yes, please....

I always found it a bit odd that Necrons don't have a heavy, or special, weapon option for the troops, other than assigning them a cryptek.

 adamsouza wrote:
I always found it a bit odd that Necrons don't have a heavy, or special, weapon option for the troops, other than assigning them a cryptek.

Holdover from 3rd edition fluff.

Being able to have an Immortal sergeant, or indeed sergeant models in any non-warrior unit would be nice, but don't count on it.

I'm not sure if I'd like that.
Having everyone with the same equipment is something I like, it feels like something that works with Necrons.
We cannot take AT-weapons, but that is why we have Gauss.

Not every army can be Marines

I'd like it. We're allowed to have personalities now, after all.

Would suck if we got trapped in that "pay more for a sergeant who's trapped using a pistol" thing, mind.

I'd quite like it if I could have an Immortal squad leader