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So here we go again with the Chaos stuff.. I suppose that there is a record of "Voice of the Chaos Gods", pretre? Apologies if this article is mentioned elsewhere on dakka already..

Personally, I laugh at any mention of legion stuff in rumors. It's a hefty laugh... A laugh that embarrasses those around me.

Copy and paste from Natfka's site below:

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2014/08/the-future-of-warhammer-40k-and-fantasy.html

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via Voice of the Chaos Gods
my source has told me information about some plans by Games Workshop:

By Summer next year all 40k Softcover will be replaced. Until 40k will be focused. After that, the releases scaled back. The number of supplement releases will be constantly; no increases in 2015.
Translation of existing supplements.

The next CSM codex is in the "pre-production". Adam Troke was commissioned to find out how to represent the legions (cult too) in the new Codex.

In the second half of 2015, Fantasy will play the main role including a new Edition.

Warhammer Visions sells not well at all. Maybe the next incarnation of the WD.

Voice of the Chaos Gods - Total rumors: (17 TRUE) / (25 FALSE) / (1 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE)

Yeah...no.

Therrrrrre it is. Couldn't find it on my phone

I would peg educated guess work at a slightly higher rate of success that this.

VotCG clearly isn't that educated.

Why do these read like something that could have been found inside a fortune cookie?

 Pacific wrote:
Why do these read like something that could have been found inside a fortune cookie?

That's a likely source.

I mean, Visions sell bad? Who would have guessed? Better add something about WFB to spice it up a little.

 Azreal13 wrote:


VotCG clearly isn't that educated.

Sounds to me more like a case of English is a second language...

timd wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:


VotCG clearly isn't that educated.

Sounds to me more like a case of English is a second language...

I don't think it was intended as a knock on his language skills. It's a knock on the veracity of his rumours, which are on the low end of what you'd expect for general very broad guesses.

 Brometheus wrote:


The next CSM codex is in the "pre-production". Adam Troke was commissioned to find out how to represent the legions (cult too) in the new Codex.

OH HOW I WANT THIS TO BE TRUE.

These are all "Captain Obvios" rumors.
There are only 3 40K paperback codices left to update, so GW could drop to 1 per 3 months and still get them done by next summer.

CSM have book issues, and are the oldest hardback book. It takes them about 2 years to design models for a new codex, and rules are done after models, so starting work now for a codex release a year or more out fits the timeline.

Fantasy summer of next year as a big thing? I wonder if we have heard that before from reliable people like Harry or Hastings?

Visions not doing well? Real shocker there.

none of these rumors require any sort of actual knowledge beyond pattern recognition and a calendar.

Yeah, it's a bit like saying "The next release from GW will have a few plastic kits released at the same time!". It's really easy to "predict" things that happen all the time.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Yeah, it's a bit like saying "The next release from GW will have a few plastic kits released at the same time!". It's really easy to "predict" things that happen all the time.

And then real easy to be wrong, as these rumormongers have constantly proven.

.... IIRC Mr Troke works as part of the WD team not the design studio who write the codices ?

... Course he have/will move back to the studio but ....

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
These are all "Captain Obvios" rumors.
There are only 3 40K paperback codices left to update, so GW could drop to 1 per 3 months and still get them done by next summer.

Yeah, that's the worst rumour I have ever heard.
With the current release-rate I was actually hoping for everything to be updated in the coming months.
September: Dark Eldar
October: Blood Angels
November: Necrons
December: Maybe new/more Battleforces?

Stretching it to next summer would be terrible.

I'd forgotten visions existed until yesterday, was in my local WH Smiths newsagents and browsing the magazine shelves saw 'WHITE DWARF' in great big letters, which surprised me.
a closer look revelaed it was actually Visions, but the visions titles was tiny, with 'from the makers of WHIT DWARF covering half the front cover.

Now, I could have told them day one (and did via these forums) Visions was a turkey, but how they are presenting it now is very close to fraudulent to catch out the unwary in my opinion.

If they want to trade off the well known white dwarf name, put white dwarf in news agents, dont pretend this other thing is actually white dwarf when noone buys it.

The next CSM codex is in the "pre-production". Adam Troke was commissioned to find out how to represent the legions (cult too) in the new Codex.

Man you know this is fake when you see them actually talk about legions like they want to do something good with them.

Visions is a product of GW's lack of understanding of their market. there just isn't much intreast in pictures of painted minis. we can get that online. what they should have done is packaged the magazine with fiction as well. I suspect people would have gladly paid to get a magazine that featured short stories set in the warhammer fantasy and 40k universes, with their gorgously painted minis serving as illustrations.

Kangodo wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
These are all "Captain Obvios" rumors.
There are only 3 40K paperback codices left to update, so GW could drop to 1 per 3 months and still get them done by next summer.

Yeah, that's the worst rumour I have ever heard.
With the current release-rate I was actually hoping for everything to be updated in the coming months.
September: Dark Eldar
October: Blood Angels
November: Necrons
December: Maybe new/more Battleforces?

Stretching it to next summer would be terrible.

1 codex a month is honestly too fast (much less 2 codices and a supplement over 3 weeks). A few years back it was closer to a new codex every 3-4 months. Will GW find a happy medium, like last year, with a codex about every other month?

BrianDavion wrote:
Visions is a product of GW's lack of understanding of their market. there just isn't much intreast in pictures of painted minis. we can get that online. what they should have done is packaged the magazine with fiction as well. I suspect people would have gladly paid to get a magazine that featured short stories set in the warhammer fantasy and 40k universes, with their gorgously painted minis serving as illustrations.

One third pictures, one third fluff and one third art. Done. That would sell.

reading carefully it almost sounds like the plan is to complete the 6th/7th edition lines, and then mostly reduce the odd supplement, while putting 40k in "maintance mode" while they lavish some attention on fantasy.
Seems a bit of an odd gameplan as one would think they'd wanna spread the love to keep intreast on both sides. Only reason I could think for doing this is they're planning a fairly signfcigent reboot of WHF and thus wanna get 40k in a good place first.

indeed the ramp up of codex releases could be GW's way of testing themselves to see if they can release a rapid amount of new army books to account for old ones suddenly rendered completly obselete

BrianDavion wrote:
Visions is a product of GW's lack of understanding of their market. there just isn't much intreast in pictures of painted minis. we can get that online. what they should have done is packaged the magazine with fiction as well. I suspect people would have gladly paid to get a magazine that featured short stories set in the warhammer fantasy and 40k universes, with their gorgously painted minis serving as illustrations.

Only if it cost less than a full novel.

BrianDavion wrote:
Visions is a product of GW's lack of understanding of their market. there just isn't much intreast in pictures of painted minis. we can get that online. what they should have done is packaged the magazine with fiction as well. I suspect people would have gladly paid to get a magazine that featured short stories set in the warhammer fantasy and 40k universes, with their gorgously painted minis serving as illustrations.

It is a product of how GW want their games to be consumed by users with minimum expense to GW generating craploads of things for players to buy.

All the photography has to be done for pack shots and so on anyway. They have the images on file and can reuse them everywhere without any additional expense.

They recycle the materials in the magazine and codexes with different angles and crops from a single setup, the minimum amount of text, and no need to pay pesky artists to actually create something new and different looking.

The next step will be to have the CADCAM artists apply textures and get the 3D models arranged in Cinema 4D to generate new images without even the expense of a photo studio.

BrianDavion wrote:
Visions is a product of GW's lack of understanding of their market. there just isn't much intreast in pictures of painted minis. we can get that online. what they should have done is packaged the magazine with fiction as well. I suspect people would have gladly paid to get a magazine that featured short stories set in the warhammer fantasy and 40k universes, with their gorgously painted minis serving as illustrations.

It's the most cynical half-arsed and half-baked release I have seen from GW, and that's saying something.

If you ever want proof of GW's contempt for its customer base, and desire to cut expenditure, then Visions is it. Quite often you can't even see it at my local WH Smiths, it's small size means that its often sat behind another magazine or even behind the dividers that separate the shelves. LoL.

 Azreal13 wrote:

Voice of the Chaos Gods - Total rumors: (17 TRUE) / (25 FALSE) / (1 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE)

Yeah...no.

Came here to post this.


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And did some checking, apparently I missed a couple of SW updates for him:

Voice of the Chaos Gods - Total rumors: (15 TRUE) / (34 FALSE) / (1 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE)


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Release Schedule Rumors - Aug 2014
via Voice of the Chaos Gods on Faeit 212
Dark Eldar will most probably come next. The four codices for replace the last softcovers are all complete. Theoretically, GW can publish them all in 2014.
Sororitas were written by phil kelly already in 2013.

Problems with the molds prevent the publication.

Necrons and Dark Eldar are getting for their codex publications only few new Models.

Both systems have only three regular rule writer. The writers for 40k are Robin Cruddace & Simon Grant. Fantasy has Phil Kelly & Jeremy Vetock. Jervis Johnson is in both games the senior writer.


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 Brometheus wrote:
So here we go again with the Chaos stuff.. I suppose that there is a record of "Voice of the Chaos Gods", pretre? Apologies if this article is mentioned elsewhere on dakka already..

I saw this today but declined to post it since Voice is so bad.

I would not put it past GW to do 3 marine codex in a row, and I would bet money its going to be SW (current) grey knights, then blood angels.

And quite frankly, with the garbage representation the xenos armies have gotten recently with tyranids and orks as examples, dark elder and necron players should probably be hopeing their books get delayed as long as possible.

 Orock wrote:
And quite frankly, with the garbage representation the xenos armies have gotten recently with tyranids and orks as examples, dark elder and necron players should probably be hopeing their books get delayed as long as possible.

QFT and exalted

My poor orks, they should have just called it codex meganob.

Why I know these "rumors" are false? Legions.

 pretre wrote:



Both systems have only three regular rule writer. The writers for 40k are Robin Cruddace & Simon Grant. Fantasy has Phil Kelly & Jeremy Vetock. Jervis Johnson is in both games the senior writer.

Jesus, I really hope Cruddance doesn't write the Necron Codex, he did such a bad job on the CSM codex... If he does the Necron Codex too, I will be running out of Armies to play.

Also, who is Simon Grant?

Something about "Voice of the Chaos Gods" reminds me of "ghost". Remember him?

You mean: ghost21 - Total rumors: (8 TRUE) / (59 FALSE) / (2 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE) - NO RUMORS PENDING - CONFIRMED FAKE

Yep, we remember him.