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Ooo it is a big release isn't it

Nagash,

Dual build Morghast

Spirit Host

RIder on undead horse beast (could be triple kit with below?)

riders on undead horses

 Sigvatr wrote:
And what's up with that skeleton beard? O_o

In Ancient Egypt, a fake bead was used as a symbol of divinity. GW, of course, fethed it up.

He's fething floating?!

Wow. I just... wow. What a mess. They look more like He-Man toys or WoW characters than WHFB units.

EDIT: On second thought, some of it isn't so bad. The spirit hosts are good, and Arkhan the Black is pretty cool, too. But Nagash himself and the Morghasts are cartoonishly bad at best.

I will be carving the beard of Nagash other than that I think this is the best WHFB release in years!

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:


RIder on undead horse beast (could be triple kit with below?)

riders on undead horses

Triple kit

The Mortarchs - immortatal servants - Mannfred Von Carstein, Arkhan the Black, Neferata. They all have steeds made of skulls.

Loving the look of Arkhan, Manfred and Neferata (I'm guessing that's her...)
Hosts are cool and I'd like the Morghasts more if they weren't floating.
Still unsure how I feel about Nagash himself. I think I still like him, though not as much as Arkhan.

Also, assuming the female vampire is Neferata, why is she helping him? I thought of all the OG vampires she hated him the most?

In the blurb in the Visions it states she is "bending knee to Nagash, not out of loyalty, but because she dreams of reclaiming lost Lahmia."

Why does Nagash have such a tiny little pin head.

Compensation for the giant melonhead of the last version, I think.

Saldiven wrote:
Why does Nagash have such a tiny little pin head.

Apparently warpstone works on everything but brains.

Ah, so she is doing it to rebuild Lahmia like most things she does.
That makes a lot more sense then being loyal!

I really like all of the floating spirit things on all of the models (as well as the spirit host). Hopefully I can pick some up from bits sellers.

Nagash floating rather than standing definitely improves the model. I still don't like it, but it makes it much more dynamic.

The Morghasts are too cartoony for my taste, and look very fragile. The big skull horse construct looks OK, but along with the Morghasts, looks too techy for my tastes. They look like you could easily play them in a Necron army without it looking out of place at all.

Along with Dwarf helicopters and these releases, it is hard to deny that the visual aesthetic of Warhammer has taken a big turn towards the WoW aesthetic.

I cannot help but wonder if the Morghast are a dig at Mantic, who have been doing "angelic" things--and the Morghast are described as "forged from the ruins of divine warriors".

Simply stunning minis! Same style as the Vampire Count floating throne thingy which I absolutely loved!

Why a bone beard and a horse made of skulls? The style strikes me as very WoW or Final Fantasy for some reason. The skull horse mounts are cool but Nagash needs a head swap badly. Also, are there fluff reasons for floating books?

 Azreal13 wrote:
Wow, flying horses made of skulls?

Wow.

I mean, they do look really cool, especially Arkhan The Black, but, wow.

For once GW's skull obsession makes some sense in terms of design.

*blink* well, they certainly have a particular look to them, but.. question.

How are they going to stay up? it looks like the bulk of these models are problematic, as their held aloft by one tail or a bunch of spirit bits like Nagash. I don't have much knowledge about models assembly, but wouldn't placing more of the model's center actually ON THE BASE be a better idea?

Compared to the old spirit host though? the new ones look pretty cool. ill admit that. no complaints there.

Just found the page with prices.

Nagash - 105USD
Martarchs - 79 USD (On sale Sept 6)
Spirit Hosts (3 models) - 26 USD (On sale Sept 13)
Morghast (2 models/dual kit) - 59 USD (On sale Sept 13)

 TheKbob wrote:
Why a bone beard and a horse made of skulls? The style strikes me as very WoW or Final Fantasy for some reason. The skull horse mounts are cool but Nagash needs a head swap badly. Also, are there fluff reasons for floating books?

He is equipped with "Nine Books of Nagash" which grant him 9 spells. He's also a goddamn wizard.

Well, these are certainly very stylised! Everything looks like 110%, plus a few more, not my cup of tea in terms of concept but they are certainly very impressive sculpts.

I'm sure they will also carry a suitably impressive price-tag.

My favourite is probably the spirit host, really like the whisps coming out of the skeleton!

Well, I didn't know he had nine books of Nagash. I would assume having it be one large tome called that would be a bit too much subtilty.

I love the model for their ability, but the artistic choices are lacking. I could see buying one of the big undead critters and putting an armored vamp lord on it such as the one from the terrorgheist kit.

wow, these morghasts are incredible

rollawaythestone wrote:

 TheKbob wrote:
Why a bone beard and a horse made of skulls? The style strikes me as very WoW or Final Fantasy for some reason. The skull horse mounts are cool but Nagash needs a head swap badly. Also, are there fluff reasons for floating books?

He is equipped with "Nine Books of Nagash" which grant him 9 spells. He's also a goddamn wizard.

I chuckled at this. Well done.

I think the Morghasts are dreadful, uninspired static pose, while the concept could be great I think they ultimately fall very short.

The other three riders, Manfred (?) is the worst, but I dig the other two. A lot.

And I love the new Nagash, but be aware that the "fake metal/bone" beard has a meaning (http://mentalfloss.com/article/50076/why-did-egyptian-pharaohs-wear-false-beards) and the other thing around it seems to be hair and not beard.

And while I do love him, I don't € 100,00 love him.

Well colour me excited! I love all these models, and considering I have fledgling TK and VC armies, I'm looking forward to these! (Except the price...)

http://grotorderly.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/white-dwarf-30-wycieki-leaks.html

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Nagash is indeed a 'full' army book (in price at least) at £50 or £100 for the LE

Outstanding release. I don't play much fantasy anymore, but someone got busy with the 3D printer and made some outstanding sculpts. Not sure how steady everything will be, but I really like what I see there. (except of course, the GW price tag)


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Is the boxed set the books or is there actually going to be some mini's for $165?

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That spirit host is one of my favorite GW models ever. They have really nailed the spirit look in a way that makes them look ethereal and insubstantial. The Cairn Wrath, Banshee, and floating ghosts on other models are other good examples.

As for the rest... I'm with whoever was talking about creative development earlier. It feels like an initial concept was sculpted up and went straight to production without actually discussing it and working on weaker elements. Parts of the models look really great but they are pulled down (pretty far for me) by certain portions that simply look bad. The Morghasts look enough like a bad flight conversion from a standing model that I wonder if they were originally sculpted standing then the sculptor was told last-minute to make them hovering.

[edit] Those rules... The most powerful necromancer there ever was can still easily be laid low by cannon fire. Even with wound recovery from spells, there is still a reasonable chance that 2-3 cannons could kill him in two rounds of shooting. Plus the always-present threat of instant-death-no-save from spells.

Yeahhhh expensive like I thought. I'll probably still get it though.