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I can see the possibility of a few more "End Times" products.

Perhaps just kits or maybe another book.

Maybe we'll get a Daemon Prince version of Archaeon. Would make sense if they've "supercharged" Nagash. I'm looking forward to hearing people report back on the book when they have it with a proper fluff rundown.

Finally got the short extract to open, damn when Archaeon ignores space and time to speak to the scryer, chills. is about to go down.

We still need plastic Greater Daemons (more probable now, seeing as how they've made a giant Nagash plastic kit...AND they can be used in both Fantasy and 40k), fiends of Slaanesh, Beasts of Nurgle, etc...Maybe they can work those in.

 Medium of Death wrote:
I can see the possibility of a few more "End Times" products.

Perhaps just kits or maybe another book.

Maybe we'll get a Daemon Prince version of Archaeon. Would make sense if they've "supercharged" Nagash. I'm looking forward to hearing people report back on the book when they have it with a proper fluff rundown.

That wouldn't make sense fluffwise, though.

We better get a new Vlad von Carstein model.

We had better...

What's wrong with the current one?

Vlad is probably the weakest of the current crop of Vampire sculpts.

 Kanluwen wrote:
We better get a new Vlad von Carstein model.

We had better...

All kidding aside, I'd be shocked if GW didn't get all the various vamps a new sculpt, complete with now obligatory ghostie/spiritie thingamabobs.

 Fango wrote:
We still need plastic Greater Daemons (more probable now, seeing as how they've made a giant Nagash plastic kit...AND they can be used in both Fantasy and 40k), fiends of Slaanesh, Beasts of Nurgle, etc...Maybe they can work those in.

I wonder if you could make a LoC by sticking a chicken head and wings on the new Nagash? He’s already floating with a book and a staff…

 Krellnus wrote:
What's wrong with the current one?

Have you seen him? Like actually seen the model in the flesh?

He is tiny compared to Isabella. The model is in one of those bizarre old "squatting spellcaster" poses with his legs as widely spaced as they could be.
Add to it that there is a distinct lack of "good", generic Vampire sculpts(which the new plastic Mannfred as the Mortarch will go a bit to alleviate when kitbashed with the Vampire Count on Zombie Dragon) and it is really puzzling.


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 Alpharius wrote:

All kidding aside, I'd be shocked if GW didn't get all the various vamps a new sculpt, complete with now obligatory ghostie/spiritie thingamabobs.

Amusingly enough, both Mannfred and Vlad von Carstein already had those when they were in metal. The Finecast version of Vlad seems to have dropped the spirits.

As in they got rid of them, entirely. Filled the gap on the mold where the spirit would have attached even.

Vlad is pretty bad. He's in a 2D pose like the 90s models. Dont like his big spike or bear cloak, looks a bit chaosey.

However, pictures of the model are in the new book so looks like its staying.

I've looked but cannot find!

Can someone give out the link to the End Times excerpt again?

Thanks!

Use this as a Vlad proxy.

http://www.mierce-miniatures.com/index.php?act=pro&pre=mrm_blg_bnl_cha_015_000

Even if he is alive again he will be dead again soon... Silly Vampires trying to stop Archaon.

 thenoobbomb wrote:

 Medium of Death wrote:
I can see the possibility of a few more "End Times" products.

Perhaps just kits or maybe another book.

Maybe we'll get a Daemon Prince version of Archaeon. Would make sense if they've "supercharged" Nagash. I'm looking forward to hearing people report back on the book when they have it with a proper fluff rundown.

That wouldn't make sense fluffwise, though.

I'm not that familiar with the fluff for Archaeon/Fantasy in general beyond some of the races. Vague knowledge.

Why wouldn't that make sense if this is a step forward in the timeline? Couldn't the Gods of Chaos decide that their champion needs more power to defeat this threat or does he have to be a "Mortal" champion?

At this point, he should probably be closer to Spawndom rather than Daemonhood!

So he fails a lot then?

Is it not just a series of cunning plans like Abaddon?

 Medium of Death wrote:
So he fails a lot then?

Is it not just a series of cunning plans like Abaddon?

Except Abbadon (for those who have read the fluff) hasnt failed. He has done exactly what he set out to do on each crusade.

 Medium of Death wrote:
So he fails a lot then?

Is it not just a series of cunning plans like Abaddon?

Just as planned?

WFB here, not 40K please - thanks!

Also:

 Alpharius wrote:
I've looked but cannot find!

Can someone give out the link to the End Times excerpt again?

Thanks!

Help, please!

 Alpharius wrote:
WFB here, not 40K please - thanks!

Also:

 Alpharius wrote:
I've looked but cannot find!

Can someone give out the link to the End Times excerpt again?

Thanks!

Help, please!

http://www.blacklibrary.com/Warhammer/return-of-nagash-hardback.html

Anybody recommend a decent epub/mobi reader that's free? I can google, but if people use a decent one i'd like to know!

 Medium of Death wrote:
Anybody recommend a decent epub/mobi reader that's free? I can google, but if people use a decent one i'd like to know!

Downloaded ub reader of google play for my tablet, seems pretty good.

Having read the extract im tempted to pick up the book on release.

His Master's Voice wrote:Vlad is probably the weakest of the current crop of Vampire sculpts.

Kanluwen wrote:

 Krellnus wrote:
What's wrong with the current one?

Have you seen him? Like actually seen the model in the flesh?

He is tiny compared to Isabella. The model is in one of those bizarre old "squatting spellcaster" poses with his legs as widely spaced as they could be.
Add to it that there is a distinct lack of "good", generic Vampire sculpts(which the new plastic Mannfred as the Mortarch will go a bit to alleviate when kitbashed with the Vampire Count on Zombie Dragon) and it is really puzzling.

I have the Vlad model and find nothing wrong with it, comparing him to Isabella is a bit much, she's got to be the worst of the von Carsteins, her legs are like 90% of the model's height, her hair is ridiculous and her face looks like someone broke a bar stool over it and it never healed.

I do agree we need better generic vampires though, but we've got the 5 main distinct bloodlines plus 2? From the roleplay stuff, the problem is they all have unique aesthetics, the seductive Lahmians, the heavily armoured Blood Dragons, bestial Strigoi, whithered Necrarchs and the generically generic von Carsteins. It would be a mission to represent them all in one kit, and 5 seperate kits will never happen.

 Krellnus wrote:
I do agree we need better generic vampires though, but we've got the 5 main distinct bloodlines plus 2? From the roleplay stuff, the problem is they all have unique aesthetics, the seductive Lahmians, the heavily armoured Blood Dragons, bestial Strigoi, whithered Necrarchs and the generically generic von Carsteins. It would be a mission to represent them all in one kit, and 5 seperate kits will never happen.

We already have Carsteins, Strigoi and Blood Dragons represented with kits, so is another two character kits really that much to ask?

I hated the new vampire style when they came out, and I still do. Bald and fugly. I want my vampires to look gooood!

Games a Workshop is incapable of sculpting a decent human so good luck with that, it's pretty poor given the number of small studios that can, so I suspect we are stuck with fugly humans and raging vampires.

 N.I.B. wrote:
I hated the new vampire style when they came out, and I still do. Bald and fugly. I want my vampires to look gooood!

So true!! I never understood why vampires should be bald. They are supposed to be threatening and evil but in a seductive way and therefore they are expected to look good and beautiful cretures.

 corgan wrote:
So true!! I never understood why vampires should be bald. They are supposed to be threatening and evil but in a seductive way and therefore they are expected to look good and beautiful cretures.

I like the Bald look when dealing with a horror vampire, but what a vampire looks like changes with culture shifts.

OG Vampire


Romantic Vampire


Current Vampire


Future Vampire?

Ai, interpretations of Vampiric lore change.
You left out the 20th century vampire though



Yes, I know Blade is a dhampir. Close enough.

I wanted to put in a Blade one, but didn't want to get too bloated.

The 1990s Angst Vampire (Buffy/Angel), 2000s Action Vampire (Blade), and the 2010s Sexual Vampire (Tru Blood) were the sad ones that got the chop.