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2014/11/10 09:16:18
Subject: Re:Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : P25 Questoris Knight Styrix
From what's been said I don't think FW have any intention of doing any HH era xenos.
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2014/11/10 09:51:26
Subject: Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : P26 HH Book 4 : Conquest
Hm... Knights, Solar Auxillia, Mechanicum... what, no Spess Muhreens this time? I thought they'd introduce some more of the Legions. Wasn't there talk that they'd bring back the two lost ones as well?
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2014/11/10 10:02:29
Subject: Re:Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : P26 HH Book 4 : Conquest
Kosake wrote: Hm... Knights, Solar Auxillia, Mechanicum... what, no Spess Muhreens this time? I thought they'd introduce some more of the Legions. Wasn't there talk that they'd bring back the two lost ones as well?
Looks like they get 63 pages of a Campaign:
Ordered mine as I really want the Knight army list. I may or may not start a small Solar Aux. force if the list looks good, although I'm planning on getting Anvil's Exo warriors instead as I'm not a massive fan of the FW figures.
2014/11/10 10:15:41
Subject: Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : P26 HH Book 4 : Conquest
Yeah, 60 pages of campaign rules including a new city fighting variant and whatever the "strategic raid" variant is. AND a 30k IG army list. This almost makes me want to spend money on GW again...
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2014/11/10 11:29:23
Subject: Re:Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : P26 HH Book 4 : Conquest
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This is awsome, I had hoped FW would release a Campaign-system for HH but I had not expected it this soon.
Lore-wise I find it highly interesting that they appearantly set the narrative within the Gothic Sector, as an old enthusiast of Battlefleet: Gothic that starchart in the beginning fired a few synapses.
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Ordered mine!
Looking forward to seeing what the new stuff does.
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2014/11/10 14:37:02
Subject: Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : P26 HH Book 4 : Conquest
Sasori wrote: Ugh, I thought Dark Mechcanium was supposed to be in book 4.
Nah, hey a ready said on the recent Warhamer Fest interviews that Dark Mechaicum won't really be a hung until either the very end or after the heresy is completed. They're still to early in the timeline for the Mechanicum to have suddenly turned into an army of gribbly Daemon Engines. Like the Astartes, the good/evil versions are still mostly the same.
Sasori wrote: Ugh, I thought Dark Mechcanium was supposed to be in book 4.
Nah, hey a ready said on the recent Warhamer Fest interviews that Dark Mechaicum won't really be a hung until either the very end or after the heresy is completed. They're still to early in the timeline for the Mechanicum to have suddenly turned into an army of gribbly Daemon Engines. Like the Astartes, the good/evil versions are still mostly the same.
I swear they keep changing that. I have read that DM was supposed to be coming soon. I'm sure I've read it...
The special chr listed in the knights section is DRAYKAVAC.
Draykavac revealed his dark allegiance to Warmaster Horus, his loyalty bought with the promise of access to technologies long forbidden by the Emperor.
ie. Dark Mechaicum chr, I recall FW saying that there would be little difference between the two as not enough time has passed to heavily differentiate them. My guess would be some upgrade unlocks or such.
2014/11/10 17:09:12
Subject: Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : P26 HH Book 4 : Conquest
If it follows the same pattern as IA13, the regular version will go on sale a day or two after the LE sells out.
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STC_LogisEngine wrote: This is awsome, I had hoped FW would release a Campaign-system for HH but I had not expected it this soon.
Haven't there been campaigns to run in every HH book thusfar?
Or maybe they've just been 1-off campaigns?
They've all been pretty heavily-themed around Istvaan, although the Strike Force(Kill Team but better) rules can be used for pretty much everything, even 40K forces if you don't deliberately try and build the most broken list possible. Looks like these new campaign rules are going to be more generic "fight a series of Heresy battles" rules.
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2014/11/10 18:47:24
Subject: Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : P26 HH Book 4 : Conquest
Damn, I was hoping that the there would be a few more knights in the book, like the warden. Might have to pick this book up. So what is this DRAYKAVAC? Is he an Knight or just one of the mechanicus guys?
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2014/11/10 18:52:51
Subject: Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : P26 HH Book 4 : Conquest
Davespil wrote: Damn, I was hoping that the there would be a few more knights in the book, like the warden. Might have to pick this book up. So what is this DRAYKAVAC? Is he an Knight or just one of the mechanicus guys?
Look up a few posts for the Draykavac info apparently (can't verify it personally but azeroth posted some tidbits). As for the number of knights, half a dozen isn't enough? You went from ZERO knights a year ago to now 8+ (don't know if the ones in conquest include or are in addition to the already published FW variants). You've got one heck of a knight household appetite! I love me some space marines (especially HH stuff) but I'm glad they're putting the focus (at least temporarily) on something other than astartes for a book. IMO, both FW and BL are unnecessarily dragging out the stuff to pad their releases for a decade or more. For instance, I would have preferred if Istvaan was just two books and then they moved onto some other theatre (and legions).
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2014/11/10 19:01:40
Subject: Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : P26 HH Book 4 : Conquest
Honestly, it smacks of stuff they've made up to keep the HH gravy train rolling on.
At least with FW we know it will be pretty and well executed.
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Davespil wrote: Damn, I was hoping that the there would be a few more knights in the book, like the warden. Might have to pick this book up. So what is this DRAYKAVAC? Is he an Knight or just one of the mechanicus guys?
Honestly, it smacks of stuff they've made up to keep the HH gravy train rolling on.
At least with FW we know it will be pretty and well executed.
The admittedly pretty models do help to divert attention away from the relatively slow progression of the series. BL doesn't have that luxury; they only (occasionally) have nice covers!
Davespil wrote: Damn, I was hoping that the there would be a few more knights in the book, like the warden. Might have to pick this book up. So what is this DRAYKAVAC? Is he an Knight or just one of the mechanicus guys?
I'm currently converting some space wolf stuff and that animal skull head would be a great bit to have (multiples of!). Out of curiosity, how does that abeyant move? It doesn't have any overly large pack animals to pull it like the holy sled of Santa Grimnar. That must be one of the dark secrets mentioned in the description.
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2014/11/10 19:22:41
Subject: Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : P26 HH Book 4 : Conquest
Honestly, it smacks of stuff they've made up to keep the HH gravy train rolling on.
Eh...it seems like it would all fit pretty well within the confines of Vengeful Spirit. I mean, the battle of Molech had pretty much all of this kind of stuff.
2014/11/10 19:26:06
Subject: Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : P26 HH Book 4 : Conquest
I'm getting the impression that the HH books (and I'm at MMPB speed, so no spoilers) is now beginning, at least slightly, to act like those Hasbro cartoon series of the 80s, if you read about some big flier or tank in a HH book, one can bet that one will be able to buy it soon.
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I'm not being hugely critical of this, just making an observation, it is much less of an issue with all the optional stuff that FW makes, compared to GW proper reaching into a codex, eviscerating it and then selling the entrails back to us in order to have a range of playable options.
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The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
I'm mostly interested in seeing the Solar Auxilia list to see what kind of models they're going to get.
I may or may not have an interest in Grav Tanks.
Not enough in this book of particular interest, at a glance, to me to go for a shiny special edition. Will wait patiently to see what it contains in detail. New mission types are of particular interest; Zone Mortalis is cool, but requires three souls value worth of unique terrain to play, but urban warfare? I'm down for a newer version of Cities of Death.
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