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 Thanatos73 wrote:
I like it, I just wonder why anyone would put heavy flamers on a dedicated fire support platform? If you're close enough to use the heavy flamers I'd think it's not doing its job.

I think they're more of a defensive thing rather than offensive. Wall of death people when they try to deep strike and assault?

 Thanatos73 wrote:
I like it, I just wonder why anyone would put heavy flamers on a dedicated fire support platform? If you're close enough to use the heavy flamers I'd think it's not doing its job.

it's rules suggest you get a free choice between heavy flamers and heavy bolters. I'm hoping that the next set of arms are enhanced assault cannons then the flamers make more sense.

Hm... I allways felt like the Dreads should work better as ranged support than as CC weapons.

The cannons look way too massive for that frame though. The recoil should tip that thing over... Maybe I'll get a madcat or two for my alphas though.

But where are the weapon options? Where's the Lascans, the hurricane bolters or somesuch, multi-meltas?

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I'm more interested in why GW makes 80mm round bases.

Because the Chinese recasters don't have 80mm bases laying around , it's a good way for them to go to ebay and say "that's not original, doesn't have the base"

 Theophony wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I'm more interested in why GW makes 80mm round bases.

Because the Chinese recasters don't have 80mm bases laying around , it's a good way for them to go to ebay and say "that's not original, doesn't have the base"

Because recasting that base is so difficult...

Improved version :

 Kosake wrote:

 Theophony wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I'm more interested in why GW makes 80mm round bases.

Because the Chinese recasters don't have 80mm bases laying around , it's a good way for them to go to ebay and say "that's not original, doesn't have the base"

Because recasting that base is so difficult...

In black plastic? For people who deal in just resin? Yes. remember GW "thinks" this will stop competitors, and why they went from 25-32mm

 reds8n wrote:
Improved version :

I'll take two!

Wave Serpents, I'm coming for you!

 reds8n wrote:
Improved version :

Needs more flamers

 Theophony wrote:

 Kosake wrote:

 Theophony wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I'm more interested in why GW makes 80mm round bases.

Because the Chinese recasters don't have 80mm bases laying around , it's a good way for them to go to ebay and say "that's not original, doesn't have the base"

Because recasting that base is so difficult...

In black plastic? For people who deal in just resin? Yes. remember GW "thinks" this will stop competitors, and why they went from 25-32mm

Uhm... im pretty sure I've seen black pigment for casting materials from virtually every single store that has this type of goods... never mind just black spray cans.

 Johnson101 wrote:
I like it, looks far far better in these photos than in the leaks.

I think it looks even worse now. Worst model from FW in recent years tbh

It annoys me that independent tracking is closer to what seeker missiles should be.

I like it, and the rules are good. I do think the final version may go up a few points. I'm at work and can't check, but how many points does a Contemptor Mortis with autocannons cost?

Looks like the experimental rules have been updated to allow this in Blood Angel, Dark Angel and Horus Heresy lists

Can it even see over its own boobs?

The best part are the words "may choose" before "skyfire and intercepter".

 reds8n wrote:
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I'd buy that one! I might get a chance at winning against all those Riptides and Wave Serpents out there...

Honestly I think I liked it in the leaked pictures rather than the blue scheme. Hopefully it'll paint up better in something else.

So... Am I wrong here or is this thing efficient like hell?

2 Mortis Pattern Dread /w AC vs AV12 flyer - 2,37 hp stripped
1 Deredeo Pattern Dread vs AV12 flyer - 2,92 hp stripped.

And that still saves you some 65 points you can shove into the missile launcher and a Legacy (like War of Murder for Monster Hunter)

Hmm. I've seen something like that before.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Yeah. I want to know what those Autocannons do.

Shoot shells, I imagine.

reds8n wrote: Improved version :

 Vermis wrote:
Hmm. I've seen something like that before.

Spoiler:

Bzzt! Not quite:



Originally appearing in White Dwarf, then compiled into the Warhammer 40,000 Compendium in 1989, the Deredo Class Attack Support Dreadnought...also known as Eddy.

 Theophony wrote:
remember GW "thinks" this will stop competitors, and why they went from 25-32mm

[CITATION NEEDED]

Seriously how'd you get that from "we're changing bases on some models so they look better"?

 Vermis wrote:

Spoiler:

OT: What are those Knight Crusaders armed with?

 the_Armyman wrote:

 Vermis wrote:

Spoiler:

OT: What are those Knight Crusaders armed with?

Quake Cannon & Twin Battle Cannons if I remember rightly.

(although this says they're twin Lascannon -

The rules for it not that bad. Not crazy broken.

Anyone know what the Furibundus (Fury) class of dreadnought would be, a crazy assault dreadnought i'd assume? I'm assuming that FW is working on this one as well seeing how the Deredeo was brought out of nowhere.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Can it even see over its own boobs?[/quote

That's why it has the Flamers!

Hey guys, quick question.

When was the last time that Forgeworld made any non-30k-related unit? I mean basically anything for Xenos, as the Knights, Tank patterns etc. might still fit a 40k IoM army but are targetted primarily at 30k games.
So yeah, when was the last time any non-imperial army got something? All I can think of is the Dimachaeron for nids a couple of months ago, but before that..? contemptorcontemptormarinecontemptor...

The giant Jetpack Riptide was probably the last xenos thing prior to the Nid bug

 Kosake wrote:
Hey guys, quick question.

When was the last time that Forgeworld made any non-30k-related unit? I mean basically anything for Xenos, as the Knights, Tank patterns etc. might still fit a 40k IoM army but are targetted primarily at 30k games.
So yeah, when was the last time any non-imperial army got something? All I can think of is the Dimachaeron for nids a couple of months ago, but before that..? contemptorcontemptormarinecontemptor...

They are producing what sells. I think many folks would love to see some stuff for other armies - but FW will continue to make 30k stuff until it no longer sells. I am torn, I love the 30k stuff and I love reading about the Heresy and the FW books are great - but I am sad that the consolidation of FW products seems to have eliminated the awesome terrain (trenchlines) and cool fringe models (Tallarn are gone - Ork Battlefortress is gone - etc)

Wish I could take one in my GK army

But at least we're screwed along with the Space Wolves this time