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Very, very minor point, but most flu related deaths are in the old, young and those with compromised immune systems. Most healthy adults get through it well enough. Now I'm sure that some of that is true with Ebola as well, but it seems to have a higher mortality rate amongst its victims than the flu. Odds of getting it may be REALLY low, but if you do it is scarier than the flu.

That said, it doesn't seem like it is time to panic yet.

 Peter Wiggin wrote:
Scared humans are the most dangerous animals.

I dunno, he looks pretty scared to me, but I'm still inclined to bet on the Hippo.

Hippos, actually the most dangerous animal in Africa (other than humans).

 Ouze wrote:

 Peter Wiggin wrote:
Scared humans are the most dangerous animals.

I dunno, he looks pretty scared to me, but I'm still inclined to bet on the Hippo.

Pffttt....he ran...

Now though.....


Fired my 9mm first time ever in combat theater when something this size came out from under a rock from no where.......later deemed a authorized shooting

 Ouze wrote:

 Peter Wiggin wrote:
Scared humans are the most dangerous animals.

I dunno, he looks pretty scared to me, but I'm still inclined to bet on the Hippo.

Well played, sir. Well played.



I must say, I was not expecting that. I very nearly spat my coffee on to my keyboard.


I must also disagree with the notion that a "scared human is the most dangerous animal." If history is any lesson, an ignorant human is by far more deadly.

Unless you're a poop snatcher, there's no reason to be afraid of the virus in the states.

Sure, you might have a problem if you don't have health insurance, but will you die? Nope. Africa is a different place medically than the rest of the world, they have people that fear doctors, that don't trust them. They still have villages that exclusively use shamans and such. So unless you're never going to have any dealing with modern medical care, just say you're a poop snatcher and move on.

Bran Dawri wrote:

Don't rummage around in people's poop or touch other bodily fluids.

Awwww man.

Looks like I need something else to do this weekend.

 Grey Templar wrote:

Bran Dawri wrote:

Don't rummage around in people's poop or touch other bodily fluids.

Awwww man.

Looks like I need something else to do this weekend.

Ah Man....anyone think of the workers at the sewer plants.....and the waste water processing plants....remember that bug that they found that can Mimic humans....

 juraigamer wrote:
they have people that fear doctors,

I don't know about that. They seem pretty keen on Witch Doctors

 Grey Templar wrote:

 juraigamer wrote:
they have people that fear doctors,

I don't know about that. They seem pretty keen on Witch Doctors

why? I'm partial to the demon hunter myself.

How is this thread still alive?
OP has been proved wrong by about 4 different people.

 Jihadin wrote:



Fired my 9mm first time ever in combat theater when something this size came out from under a rock from no where.......later deemed a authorized shooting

an M67 Frag Grenade would be completely justified if faced with one of those at that size (keep in mind folks, that picture actually has TWO camel spiders in it, not just one

 purplefood wrote:
How is this thread still alive?
OP has been proved wrong by about 4 different people.

When has being wrong ever stopped someone in the OT?

 ScootyPuffJunior wrote:

 purplefood wrote:
How is this thread still alive?
OP has been proved wrong by about 4 different people.

When has being wrong ever stopped someone in the OT?

Oooooh that's a toughie.


Gonna have to go with never.
This thread hasn't broken any rules but it should be locked for being fething stupid.

 purplefood wrote:
How is this thread still alive?
OP has been proved wrong by about 4 different people.

Because why not salvage a perfectly good thread about disease to rag on third world hygiene

Nope! Let's monger some fear!

Feeding everyone fear of something bad that's going to happen.

Ebola outbreak can be contain in the US within the borders of TX. Sorry Frazz and don't be alram about the 40ft Jersey barriers going upon the borders of TX and automated weapon system every 20ft.

I worry the most but not paranoid worry about some Islamic militants coming across the southern border and doing something detrimental.

Attacking the US in a direct assault is pretty much suicidal.

Edit: Wow, did not think about that one.

 ScootyPuffJunior wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
That's one if the benefits of the long incubation period before you are contagious: they were able to pull the potential infected kids out of school before they showed symptoms and started to infect other kids (if infected).

It would suck having to wait two weeks sitting on your butt trying to find out if you have it though.

So you're telling me that a not easily transmitted disease that is easily traceable and contained isn't going to end civilization as we know it? You're making too much sense! Ignored!!



Also, I would like to point out (after seven pages of discussion) that one person coming down with a rare disease is not considered an "outbreak."

Well spoken.

Let's get creative on this. D-USA and others can correct me or clarify. I am in no shape, form, or way feeding into "hysteria".

You have Islamic Militants in Africa who also are networked into main line Islamic Terror Groups
Ebola has a two week incubation period
Suicide Ebola Bombers are contaminated/infected with Ebola
Passport holders who fly into some airport in Mexico
Make it across the border
Walk into malls and spread saliva on hand rails, urine on the door handles of latrines, or where ever they can transfer body fluid to another individual
The "support team" holds him/her in a room till death. Blood the SoB dry and slap a fan in the window or something and let the blood go through a fan misting it
Throw body in a water reservoir


Just feeding into it you know

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Honestly, I'm more worried about someone maneging to get their hands on the plauge or something form the 3 or so places it is kept in the world. That is something that would be bad, this wouldn't even make it out of Texas.

The plague? You mean the Black Plague?

The Black Plague isn't just kept in "3 separate places" in the world, you still have cases of it happen pretty regularly all over the developed world even. The reason that it doesn't make the news is because since the bubonic and pneumonic plagues are bacterial infections, they are pretty easy to treat with antibiotics and in our days have a mortality rate way below 10%.

My Facebook feed has gotten extra derpy in the last 24 hours or so because the local news ran this story.

About this non-story, one person I know had this to say, "I am officially queazy and have chills... WAY too close to home."

Seriously?

 Jihadin wrote:
Let's get creative on this. D-USA and others can correct me or clarify. I am in no shape, form, or way feeding into "hysteria".

You have Islamic Militants in Africa who also are networked into main line Islamic Terror Groups
Ebola has a two week incubation period
Suicide Ebola Bombers are contaminated/infected with Ebola
Passport holders who fly into some airport in Mexico
Make it across the border
Walk into malls and spread saliva on hand rails, urine on the door handles of latrines, or where ever they can transfer body fluid to another individual
The "support team" holds him/her in a room till death. Blood the SoB dry and slap a fan in the window or something and let the blood go through a fan misting it
Throw body in a water reservoir


Just feeding into it you know

Wouldn't really be effective. It MIGHT kill a few people, but people who can pass on ebola are pretty obvious and tend not to be in a fit state to walk let alone go doing all of that on their own. I guess some people could help them, but it would be very high risk and Ebola is only viable for a few hours unless it is kept wet. Even then it's only a few days. It then needs to get IN to someone, through a mucous membrane or cut.

As for water supply? Chlorination of the water would kill the virus instantly. No risk of that in a western country.

People put all sorts of nasty germs all over the place when they don't wash their hands yet we don't see many cases of things like e-coli or Cholera because it is not a good vector for illness in the west. Good sanitation and basic disinfectants make it a non starter.

http://www.vox.com/2014/10/1/6878695/ebola-virus-outbreak-symptoms


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PhantomViper wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Honestly, I'm more worried about someone maneging to get their hands on the plauge or something form the 3 or so places it is kept in the world. That is something that would be bad, this wouldn't even make it out of Texas.

The plague? You mean the Black Plague?

The Black Plague isn't just kept in "3 separate places" in the world, you still have cases of it happen pretty regularly all over the developed world even. The reason that it doesn't make the news is because since the bubonic and pneumonic plagues are bacterial infections, they are pretty easy to treat with antibiotics and in our days have a mortality rate way below 10%.

4 people were infected with plague in Colorado in June this year (two bubonic, two had become pneumonic). It's endemic in parts of the US.

The scare factor

plus we have to drain the reservoir

Edit

Think we have a 2nd case in TX

Edit

Just mention on the news

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Hippos, actually the most dangerous animal in Africa (other than humans).

I heard that and water buffalo are very dangerous animals. The most dangerous 4-legged kind.

Of course, the humble mosquito ends up getting the most people killed.

PhantomViper wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Honestly, I'm more worried about someone maneging to get their hands on the plauge or something form the 3 or so places it is kept in the world. That is something that would be bad, this wouldn't even make it out of Texas.

The plague? You mean the Black Plague?

The Black Plague isn't just kept in "3 separate places" in the world, you still have cases of it happen pretty regularly all over the developed world even. The reason that it doesn't make the news is because since the bubonic and pneumonic plagues are bacterial infections, they are pretty easy to treat with antibiotics and in our days have a mortality rate way below 10%.

Different disease then, one of those almost incurable diseases that have been essential eradicated. My memory is rather erratic, so don't be surprised if I mess up.

There are a few diseases that have been eradicated in the wild. I suspect you were thinking about Smallpox.

Possibly, I read it in a book of random facts a while ago.

 Ouze wrote:
There are a few diseases that have been eradicated in the wild. I suspect you were thinking about Smallpox.

Now Smallpox I fear. It made a young intersex woman do unspeakable things involving a video tape and a perfect virtual replica of our own world.

None of the contacts have shown symptoms so far, but authorities went ahead and took the next step and tracked down the people that they had contact with as well.

So we have managed to track down and monitor people that are two degrees removed from the source patient. That is one of the huge abilities we have that is very hard to do in Africa.