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d-usa wrote: This is how I picture you posting the same thing over and over again without any results:
Spoiler:
It was at first, but a couple of pages ago it turned to this:
Also, your post made chuckle quite loudly. Well played!
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Relapse wrote: It's a wonder anyone is left alive on the African continent, what with how bad we're being told how bad Ebola is by some here.
While that's certainly hyperbole, the CDC/WHO have estimated if the disease rates continue to progress in the same fashion--their worst case scenario is around 1.4 million people infected by January of next year---best case we wipe it out. This was a model excluding Guinea due to the non-linear progression of the disease in that country. So the reality of the situation likely lies somewhere in the lower 20-40% of that projection, which is still 280k-400k cases of ebola, which would result in around 100k-200k deaths. If computer modeling, released from the CDC and Virginia Tech, in that fashion is not sobering---I'm not sure what would be.
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Relapse wrote: It's a wonder anyone is left alive on the African continent, what with how bad we're being told how bad Ebola is by some here.
While that's certainly hyperbole, the CDC/WHO have estimated if the disease rates continue to progress in the same fashion--their worst case scenario is around 1.4 million people infected by January of next year---best case we wipe it out. This was a model excluding Guinea due to the non-linear progression of the disease in that country. So the reality of the situation likely lies somewhere in the lower 20-40% of that projection, which is still 280k-400k cases of ebola, which would result in around 100k-200k deaths. If computer modeling, released from the CDC and Virginia Tech, in that fashion is not sobering---I'm not sure what would be.
I do agree it's bad, but like any crisis it's made much worse by uneducated people or unprepared people.
I thought this was semi-pertinent, and at the very least somewhat entertaining.
A guy came into a restaurant in my home town today, ordered and ate, and then told his server that he was in contact with people with Ebola, and that the restaurant should call an ambulance.
They called 911, described the guy, the 911 operator said that he'd done that at other places recently and they sent the police instead.
I wonder if we'll see very many more instances of this kind of weird scaremongering type stuff by people who are just nuts? It looks like the police had a pretty good handle on it though.
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A) not having knowledge about a situation
B) having incorrect knowledge about a situation
C) ignoring the knowledge provided to them about a situation
D) listening to gakky information about a situation
Considering the incompetence seen at multiple times in the Dallas scenario and the fact every news station up to and including the Dumpwater Gazette is screaming "EBOLA! EBOLA! EBOLA!" its understandable. I love that the face on CNN's "Reliable Sources" is complaining about Fox overreacting when CNN has been running "EBOLA RUN! WE"RE ALL GOING TO DIE! QUICK RUN!" 24/7 for a week now.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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A) not having knowledge about a situation
B) having incorrect knowledge about a situation
C) ignoring the knowledge provided to them about a situation
D) listening to gakky information about a situation
Considering the incompetence seen at multiple times in the Dallas scenario and the fact every news station up to and including the Dumpwater Gazette is screaming "EBOLA! EBOLA! EBOLA!" its understandable. I love that the face on CNN's "Reliable Sources" is complaining about Fox overreacting when CNN has been running "EBOLA RUN! WE"RE ALL GOING TO DIE! QUICK RUN!" 24/7 for a week now.
On the bright side they stopped talking about the missing plane
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Tomorrow, Chicago could suddenly be stricken with an extremely virulent influenza strain, which does not respond to the current flu shot treatment. As fast and easily as influenza spreads, it could affect and potentially kill thousands in such a densely packed area.
And you won't even know about it until it happens......
Just remember folks. Panic. Panic all the time. It's the only way to survive, other than just being mindful, of course-but geez, that's so friggin' boring.
I sometimes wonder about the odds of me dying of Ebola, versus a small meteoroid penetrating my roof and killing me instantly in front of the television.
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Just remember folks. Panic. Panic all the time. It's the only way to survive, other than just being mindful, of course-but geez, that's so friggin' boring.
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I sometimes wonder about the odds of me dying of Ebola, versus a small meteoroid penetrating my roof and killing me instantly in front of the television.
The odds of you dying of Ebola are only *slightly* better than the odds of you dying of Face Scab Madness, a completely fictional disease that I just made up. I hope that helps, in some way.
Also, on a related note, there is now more Han Solo in this thread than in the actual Star Wars ep 7 thread.
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The odds of you dying of Ebola are only *slightly* better than the odds of you dying of Face Scab Madness, a completely fictional disease that I just made up. I hope that helps, in some way.
The odds of you dying of Ebola are only *slightly* better than the odds of you dying of Face Scab Madness, a completely fictional disease that I just made up. I hope that helps, in some way.
Is that more or less deadly than Whooping AIDS?
Worse than Whooping AIDS, but the jury is still out on whether or not it's worse than cancerAIDS.
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That being said, I honestly respect the threat of any hemorrhagic virus poses to civilization, especially were it to become an uncontrolled outbreak. But I stress the word "uncontrolled" and the breakdown of medical care required for that to happen.
As it stands, the death toll of this Ebola outbreak is "mostly" tied to the fact that the standard of living in the RICHEST regions of the places it is striking very likely being ranked below the worst possible ghettos that could be found in America, or many other countries in the world. Strict and qualified medical care would have halted it's spread before now if it had come out in a country like most of us are from.
All viruses and diseases are hugely damn scary, but grounding yourself in facts is what stops us from being a scared flock of sheep. News services do not like that quality- levelheadedness is bad for ratings.
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"By this point I'm convinced 100% that every single race in the 40k universe have somehow tapped into the ork ability to just have their tech work because they think it should."
The odds of you dying of Ebola are only *slightly* better than the odds of you dying of Face Scab Madness, a completely fictional disease that I just made up. I hope that helps, in some way.
Is that more or less deadly than Whooping AIDS?
Worse than Whooping AIDS, but the jury is still out on whether or not it's worse than cancerAIDS.
I believe the technical term for that condition is CAIDS, actually.
Also, on a related note, there is now more Han Solo in this thread than in the actual Star Wars ep 7 thread.
You say that as it's a bad thing.
Some more rational goodies:
The Washington Post wrote:Ebola has made its way into the United States, and judging by the TV coverage, you would think people are (or should be) in full-scale panic mode.
They are not. Not even close.
A new poll from the Pew Research Center shows that just 11 percent of Americans are "very worried" about the Ebola virus infecting them or someone they know. An additional 21 percent are "somewhat" concerned. That leaves 67 percent who are either not at all concerned or "not too" concerned.
The last time a contagious disease threatened to spread in the United States was Avian influenza -- a.k.a. bird flu -- in 2005. A Fox News poll in October 2005 found that 30 percent were "very" concerned about its spread and 33 percent were somewhat concerned -- a total of 63 percent. (This question, though, did not ask whether people were concerned about their families being infected -- perhaps a higher bar.)
Similarly, a March 2006 poll from ABC News showed 66 percent of people were "concerned" about bird flu, including 26 percent who were "very concerned."
So it would seem there is considerably less concern about Ebola at this point.
Americans also say, 57 percent to 41 percent, that they have at least a "fair amount" of confidence in the federal government's ability to deal with the issue.
That's actually more faith than they had in the government's ability to deal with bird flu. Back then, 48 percent had faith, while 49 percent had little or none, according to Pew polling.
Concern about Ebola infecting you or someone close to you is significantly higher among blacks (47 percent "very" or "somewhat") and Hispanics (39 percent), as well as less-educated Americans (38 percent of people who never went to college). Just 22 percent of college graduates are at least "somewhat" concerned.
d-usa wrote: "When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people."
An interesting read of an interview with the scientist who discovered Ebola:
'In 1976 I discovered Ebola - now I fear an unimaginable tragedy'
Peter Piot was a researcher at a lab in Antwerp when a pilot brought him a blood sample from a Belgian nun who had fallen mysteriously ill in Zaire
A short excerpt:
Do you think we might be facing the beginnings of a pandemic?
There will certainly be Ebola patients from Africa who come to us in the hopes of receiving treatment. And they might even infect a few people here who may then die. But an outbreak in Europe or North America would quickly be brought under control. I am more worried about the many people from India who work in trade or industry in west Africa. It would only take one of them to become infected, travel to India to visit relatives during the virus's incubation period, and then, once he becomes sick, go to a public hospital there. Doctors and nurses in India, too, often don't wear protective gloves. They would immediately become infected and spread the virus.
The virus is continually changing its genetic makeup. The more people who become infected, the greater the chance becomes that it will mutate ...
... which might speed its spread. Yes, that really is the apocalyptic scenario. Humans are actually just an accidental host for the virus, and not a good one. From the perspective of a virus, it isn't desirable for its host, within which the pathogen hopes to multiply, to die so quickly. It would be much better for the virus to allow us to stay alive longer.
Could the virus suddenly change itself such that it could be spread through the air?
Like measles, you mean? Luckily that is extremely unlikely. But a mutation that would allow Ebola patients to live a couple of weeks longer is certainly possible and would be advantageous for the virus. But that would allow Ebola patients to infect many, many more people than is currently the case.
But that is just speculation, isn't it?
Certainly. But it is just one of many possible ways the virus could change to spread itself more easily. And it is clear that the virus is mutating.
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Spacemanvic wrote: An interesting read of an interview with the scientist who discovered Ebola:
There will certainly be Ebola patients from Africa who come to us in the hopes of receiving treatment. And they might even infect a few people here who may then die. But an outbreak in Europe or North America would quickly be brought under control. I am more worried about the many people from India who work in trade or industry in west Africa. It would only take one of them to become infected, travel to India to visit relatives during the virus's incubation period, and then, once he becomes sick, go to a public hospital there. Doctors and nurses in India, too, often don't wear protective gloves. They would immediately become infected and spread the virus.
The virus is continually changing its genetic makeup. The more people who become infected, the greater the chance becomes that it will mutate ...
... which might speed its spread. Yes, that really is the apocalyptic scenario. Humans are actually just an accidental host for the virus, and not a good one. From the perspective of a virus, it isn't desirable for its host, within which the pathogen hopes to multiply, to die so quickly. It would be much better for the virus to allow us to stay alive longer.
Could the virus suddenly change itself such that it could be spread through the air?
Like measles, you mean? Luckily that is extremely unlikely. But a mutation that would allow Ebola patients to live a couple of weeks longer is certainly possible and would be advantageous for the virus. But that would allow Ebola patients to infect many, many more people than is currently the case.
But that is just speculation, isn't it?
Certainly. But it is just one of many possible ways the virus could change to spread itself more easily. And it is clear that the virus is mutating.
Pretty much exactly what I've been posting throughout this thread, thanks for sharing that--and I did not know the scientist that discovered ebola, so there's that. Although I'm not happy to see him share my fear of an ebola infected India. That, quite literally, would be the worst possible scenario (next to a dangerous mutation).
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Spacemanvic wrote: An interesting read of an interview with the scientist who discovered Ebola:
There will certainly be Ebola patients from Africa who come to us in the hopes of receiving treatment. And they might even infect a few people here who may then die. But an outbreak in Europe or North America would quickly be brought under control. I am more worried about the many people from India who work in trade or industry in west Africa. It would only take one of them to become infected, travel to India to visit relatives during the virus's incubation period, and then, once he becomes sick, go to a public hospital there. Doctors and nurses in India, too, often don't wear protective gloves. They would immediately become infected and spread the virus.
The virus is continually changing its genetic makeup. The more people who become infected, the greater the chance becomes that it will mutate ...
... which might speed its spread. Yes, that really is the apocalyptic scenario. Humans are actually just an accidental host for the virus, and not a good one. From the perspective of a virus, it isn't desirable for its host, within which the pathogen hopes to multiply, to die so quickly. It would be much better for the virus to allow us to stay alive longer.
Could the virus suddenly change itself such that it could be spread through the air?
Like measles, you mean? Luckily that is extremely unlikely. But a mutation that would allow Ebola patients to live a couple of weeks longer is certainly possible and would be advantageous for the virus. But that would allow Ebola patients to infect many, many more people than is currently the case.
But that is just speculation, isn't it?
Certainly. But it is just one of many possible ways the virus could change to spread itself more easily. And it is clear that the virus is mutating.
Pretty much exactly what I've been posting throughout this thread, thanks for sharing that--and I did not know the scientist that discovered ebola, so there's that. Although I'm not happy to see him share my fear of an ebola infected India. That, quite literally, would be the worst possible scenario (next to a dangerous mutation).
Just keep in mind that if it does mutate... it could mutate into something harmless to humans.
Nature is funny like that.
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The Spanish health minister has confirmed that a nurse who treated a victim of Ebola in Madrid has tested positive for the disease.
The nurse is said to be the first person in the current outbreak known to have contracted Ebola outside Africa.
Health Minister Ana Mato said the woman was part of the team that treated Spanish priest Manuel Garcia Viejo, who died of the virus on 25 September.
Some 3,400 people have died in the outbreak - mostly in West Africa.
The Spanish nurse is in a stable condition, Reuters quoted health officials as saying. She started to feel ill last week when she was on holiday.
The nurse was admitted to hospital in Alcorcon, near Madrid, on Monday morning with a high fever, Ms Mato said.
Doctors isolated the emergency treatment room.
The infection was confirmed by two tests, the minister said.
File photo of Manuel Garcia Viejo at San Juan de Dios hospital in Lusar, Sierra Leone
Manuel Garcia Viejo, seen in a file photo, was the second Spanish priest to be repatriated from Africa with Ebola
Manuel Garcia Viejo died in the hospital Carlos III de Madrid after catching Ebola in Sierra Leone.
Another Spanish priest, Miguel Pajares, died in August after contracting the virus in Liberia.
Ebola spreads through contact with the bodily fluids of someone who has the virus and the only way to stop an outbreak is to isolate those who are infected.
There have been nearly 7,500 confirmed infections worldwide, with officials saying the figure is likely to be much higher in reality.
Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia have been hardest hit.
Celebrations in West Africa for the Muslim festival of Eid al-Adha are being badly affected by the Ebola outbreak, with many public places deserted this weekend.
Earlier health officials said people arriving in the US from Ebola-affected countries in West Africa could be subject to extra screening at airports.
But the White House said on Monday it was not considering a ban on travellers from such countries, according to Reuters news agency.
It comes as the US tries to limit the spread from its first confirmed case, a Liberian in Dallas.
Thomas Duncan's condition is critical but stable, Reuters quoted doctors in the state of Texas as saying on Monday.
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B) having incorrect knowledge about a situation
C) ignoring the knowledge provided to them about a situation
D) listening to gakky information about a situation
Considering the incompetence seen at multiple times in the Dallas scenario and the fact every news station up to and including the Dumpwater Gazette is screaming "EBOLA! EBOLA! EBOLA!" its understandable. I love that the face on CNN's "Reliable Sources" is complaining about Fox overreacting when CNN has been running "EBOLA RUN! WE"RE ALL GOING TO DIE! QUICK RUN!" 24/7 for a week now.
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d-usa wrote: Considering the incompetence seen at multiple times in the Dallas scenario and the fact every news station up to and including the Dumpwater Gazette is screaming "EBOLA! EBOLA! EBOLA!" its understandable. I love that the face on CNN's "Reliable Sources" is complaining about Fox overreacting when CNN has been running "EBOLA RUN! WE"RE ALL GOING TO DIE! QUICK RUN!" 24/7 for a week now.
I seen that at the gym earlier. Of course straight after they cut to an ad for an upcoming show about flight MH370
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