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Have the Phelps clan weighed in yet as to whether god sent the Ebolas because of the gays or the military?

Edit: Apparently, because Obama.

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So, Fark is a site that I go to every now and then. People submit stories and retitle them to have funny headlines, and depending on source, a tag can generate showing the source of the story (in addition to the type). Fox News has one, CNN had one... about the CNN one. About a month ago, Fark changed the CNN tag to -4600 . People asked why, and apparently CNN had told Fark they were using their logo without permission. While I think it's obviously a fair use issue, they decided to just change it.

Why -4600?

Well, Wolf Blitzer went on Celebrity Jeopardy, and showed that same spirit CNN shows every day in their "reporting".

Spoiler:


Sadly, not shopped.

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 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
 d-usa wrote:
Considering the incompetence seen at multiple times in the Dallas scenario and the fact every news station up to and including the Dumpwater Gazette is screaming "EBOLA! EBOLA! EBOLA!" its understandable. I love that the face on CNN's "Reliable Sources" is complaining about Fox overreacting when CNN has been running "EBOLA RUN! WE"RE ALL GOING TO DIE! QUICK RUN!" 24/7 for a week now.


I seen that at the gym earlier. Of course straight after they cut to an ad for an upcoming show about flight MH370


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 Mr. Burning wrote:
PANIC EVERYONE!!!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-29514920

The Spanish health minister has confirmed that a nurse who treated a victim of Ebola in Madrid has tested positive for the disease.

The nurse is said to be the first person in the current outbreak known to have contracted Ebola outside Africa.

Health Minister Ana Mato said the woman was part of the team that treated Spanish priest Manuel Garcia Viejo, who died of the virus on 25 September.

Some 3,400 people have died in the outbreak - mostly in West Africa.

The Spanish nurse is in a stable condition, Reuters quoted health officials as saying. She started to feel ill last week when she was on holiday.

The nurse was admitted to hospital in Alcorcon, near Madrid, on Monday morning with a high fever, Ms Mato said.

Doctors isolated the emergency treatment room.

The infection was confirmed by two tests, the minister said.

File photo of Manuel Garcia Viejo at San Juan de Dios hospital in Lusar, Sierra Leone
Manuel Garcia Viejo, seen in a file photo, was the second Spanish priest to be repatriated from Africa with Ebola
Manuel Garcia Viejo died in the hospital Carlos III de Madrid after catching Ebola in Sierra Leone.

Another Spanish priest, Miguel Pajares, died in August after contracting the virus in Liberia.

Ebola spreads through contact with the bodily fluids of someone who has the virus and the only way to stop an outbreak is to isolate those who are infected.

There have been nearly 7,500 confirmed infections worldwide, with officials saying the figure is likely to be much higher in reality.

Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia have been hardest hit.

Celebrations in West Africa for the Muslim festival of Eid al-Adha are being badly affected by the Ebola outbreak, with many public places deserted this weekend.

Earlier health officials said people arriving in the US from Ebola-affected countries in West Africa could be subject to extra screening at airports.

But the White House said on Monday it was not considering a ban on travellers from such countries, according to Reuters news agency.

It comes as the US tries to limit the spread from its first confirmed case, a Liberian in Dallas.

Thomas Duncan's condition is critical but stable, Reuters quoted doctors in the state of Texas as saying on Monday.

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I wonder how she contracted Ebola, considering this is a photo of them treating Manuel Garcia Viejo;


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 AgeOfEgos wrote:
 Mr. Burning wrote:
PANIC EVERYONE!!!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-29514920

The Spanish health minister has confirmed that a nurse who treated a victim of Ebola in Madrid has tested positive for the disease.

The nurse is said to be the first person in the current outbreak known to have contracted Ebola outside Africa.

Health Minister Ana Mato said the woman was part of the team that treated Spanish priest Manuel Garcia Viejo, who died of the virus on 25 September.

Some 3,400 people have died in the outbreak - mostly in West Africa.

The Spanish nurse is in a stable condition, Reuters quoted health officials as saying. She started to feel ill last week when she was on holiday.

The nurse was admitted to hospital in Alcorcon, near Madrid, on Monday morning with a high fever, Ms Mato said.

Doctors isolated the emergency treatment room.

The infection was confirmed by two tests, the minister said.

File photo of Manuel Garcia Viejo at San Juan de Dios hospital in Lusar, Sierra Leone
Manuel Garcia Viejo, seen in a file photo, was the second Spanish priest to be repatriated from Africa with Ebola
Manuel Garcia Viejo died in the hospital Carlos III de Madrid after catching Ebola in Sierra Leone.

Another Spanish priest, Miguel Pajares, died in August after contracting the virus in Liberia.

Ebola spreads through contact with the bodily fluids of someone who has the virus and the only way to stop an outbreak is to isolate those who are infected.

There have been nearly 7,500 confirmed infections worldwide, with officials saying the figure is likely to be much higher in reality.

Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia have been hardest hit.

Celebrations in West Africa for the Muslim festival of Eid al-Adha are being badly affected by the Ebola outbreak, with many public places deserted this weekend.

Earlier health officials said people arriving in the US from Ebola-affected countries in West Africa could be subject to extra screening at airports.

But the White House said on Monday it was not considering a ban on travellers from such countries, according to Reuters news agency.

It comes as the US tries to limit the spread from its first confirmed case, a Liberian in Dallas.

Thomas Duncan's condition is critical but stable, Reuters quoted doctors in the state of Texas as saying on Monday.

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I wonder how she contracted Ebola, considering this is a photo of them treating Manuel Garcia Viejo;



Not enough bleach.

Just like how the NBC camera man caught it when he helped clean the car that carried an ebola victim:
not enough bleach.
   
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 Spacemanvic wrote:

Not enough bleach.

Just like how the NBC camera man caught it when he helped clean the car that carried an ebola victim:
not enough bleach.



I would personally hazard a guess that she, at some point, didn't follow protocol. Perhaps at some point she went into the room without appropriate protective clothing to treat the man, to show him that human compassion or whatever you want to call it, and was exposed unnecessarily (as in, she could have avoided it)


It's just a theory... and really, I don't want to Blame the Victim™ here, until more facts are known about her case.
   
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Interesting read:

The classic slogan for Firestone tires was "where the rubber meets the road."

When it comes to Ebola, the rubber met the road at the Firestone rubber plantation in Harbel, Liberia.

Harbel is a company town not far from the capital city of Monrovia. It was named in 1926 after the founder of the Firestone Tire and Rubber Company, Harvey and his wife, Idabelle. Today, Firestone workers and their families make up a community of 80,000 people across the plantation.

Firestone detected its first Ebola case on March 30, when an employee's wife arrived from northern Liberia. She'd been caring for a disease-stricken woman and was herself diagnosed with the disease. Since then Firestone has done a remarkable job of keeping the virus at bay. Its built its own treatment center and set up a comprehensive response that's managed to quickly stop transmission. Dr. Brendan Flannery, the head of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's team in Liberia, has hailed Firestone's efforts as resourceful, innovative and effective.

Currently the only Ebola cases on the sprawling, 185-square-mile plantation are in patients who come from neighboring towns.

Long rows of dappled rubber trees cover Harbel's landscape. Prevailing winds cause the adult trees to lean westward. Back when Firestone was still based in Ohio, employees used to joke that the trees are "bowing to Akron."

When the Ebola case was diagnosed, "we went in to crisis mode," recalls Ed Garcia, the managing director of Firestone Liberia. He redirected his entire management structure toward Ebola.

Garcia's team first tried to find a hospital in the capital to care for the woman. "Unfortunately, at that time, there was no facility that could accommodate her," he says. "So we quickly realized that we had to handle the situation ourselves."

The case was detected on a Sunday. Garcia and a medical team from the company hospital spent Monday setting up an Ebola ward. Tuesday the woman was placed in isolation.

"None of us had any Ebola experience," he says. They scoured the Internet for information about how to treat Ebola. They cleared out a building on the hospital grounds and set up an isolation ward. They grabbed a bunch of hazmat suits for dealing with chemical spills at the rubber factory and gave them to the hospital staff. The suits worked just as well for Ebola cases.

Firestone immediately quarantined the family of the woman. Like so many Ebola patients, she died soon after being admitted to the ward. But no one else at Firestone got infected: not her family and not the workers who transported, treated and cared for her.

The Firestone managers had the benefit of backing and resources of a major corporation — something the communities around them did not.

Firestone didn't see another Ebola case for four months. Then in August, as the epidemic raced through the nearby capital, patients with Ebola started appearing at the one hospital and several clinics across the giant rubber plantation. The hospital isolation ward was expanded to 23 beds and a prefab annex was built. Containing Ebola became the number one priority of the company. Schools in the town, which have been closed by government decree, were transformed into quarantine centers. Teachers were dispatched for door-to-door outreach.

Hundreds of people with possible exposure to the virus were placed under quarantine. Seventy-two cases were reported. Forty-eight were treated in the hospital and 18 survived. By mid-September the company's Ebola treatment unit was nearly full.

As of this weekend, however, only three patients remained: a trio of boys age 4, 9 and 17.

"So we have these three," says Dr. Benedict Wollor, coordinator for the Ebola treatment unit at Firestone. "We are concerned because by this morning the four-year-old was just crying."

A team is getting dressed in full body suits, gloves and goggles to enter the ward: a doctor, two nurses and a man with an agricultural sprayer full of disinfectant strapped to his back. Wollor says the team has a lot of work to do before they get overheated in their industrial spacesuits.

"They have to change pampers, bedding, even bathe them," says Wollor. "Make sure they're clean. If someone is dehydrated, open an IV line. Imagine how we maintain an IV line on a kid."

These three boys all came from outside the plantation. So even as the worst Ebola outbreak ever recorded rages all around them, Firestone appears to have blocked the virus from spreading inside its territory.

Dr. Flannery of the CDC says a key reason for Firestone's success is the close monitoring of people who have potentially been exposed to the virus — and the moving of anyone who has had contact with an Ebola patient into voluntary quarantine.

By most accounts, this Ebola outbreak remains out of control, with health care workers across West Africa struggling to contain it.

Asked what's needed to turn that around, Flannery says, "More Firestones" — places that have the money, resources and unwavering determination to stop Ebola.

   
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An update to the Spanish case.

Investigations are under way at a hospital in Madrid after a Spanish nurse became the first person known to have contracted the deadly Ebola virus outside West Africa.

The nurse had treated two Spanish missionaries who died of the disease after being flown home from the region.

Meanwhile, US President Barack Obama has announced plans to screen passengers flying to the United States.

Some 3,400 people have died in the outbreak - mostly in West Africa.

The Spanish auxiliary nurse, a 40-year-old woman whose identity has not been revealed, was one of some 30 staff at the Carlos III hospital in Madrid who had been treating Spanish priests Manuel Garcia Viejo and Miguel Pajares, officials say.

Mr Garcia Viejo, 69, died at the hospital on 25 September after catching Ebola in Sierra Leone.

Miguel Pajares, 75, died in August after contracting the virus in Liberia.

The nurse had twice gone into the room where Mr Garcia Viejo had been treated, before and after his death on 25 September.

Shortly afterwards she had gone on holiday, a hospital spokesman said, but fell ill with fever symptoms on 30 September and was admitted to Alcorcon hospital in south-west Madrid on Sunday after being positively tested for Ebola.

In the early hours of Tuesday she was moved under a police escort to Carlos III hospital in the capital and is said to be in a stable condition.

Her husband and the other members of the medical team are being monitored. It was not known where she had gone on holiday.

It is unclear how the auxiliary nurse could have contracted Ebola.

The hospital was reported to have had extreme protective measures in place including two sets of overalls, gloves and goggles.

However, health workers told El Pais newspaper that the clothing used during the treatment of the two priests did not have level-four biological security, which is fully waterproof and with independent breathing apparatus.

Instead it was level two, the paper says, as photographs provided by staff indicated that the overalls worn did not allow for ventilation and the gloves were made of latex and bound with adhesive tape.

File photo of Manuel Garcia Viejo at San Juan de Dios hospital in Lusar, Sierra Leone
Manuel Garcia Viejo, seen in a file photo, was the second Spanish priest to be repatriated from Africa with Ebola
Critical but stable
The likelihood of an Ebola outbreak in the US was "extremely low", President Obama said on Monday, but "we don't have a lot of margin of error".

Dr Tom Frieden, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, has ruled out banning flights to the US from countries suffering the outbreak, arguing the isolation would only worsen the outbreak within Africa and would deny those countries crucial aid.

Mr Obama criticised foreign governments for not acting "as aggressively as they need to" against the outbreak.

"Countries that think that they can sit on the sidelines and just let the United States do it, that will result in a less effective response, a less speedy response, and that means that people die.

"And it also means that the potential spread of the disease beyond these areas in West Africa becomes more imminent," Mr Obama said.

Ebola spreads through contact with the bodily fluids of someone who has the virus and the only way to stop an outbreak is to isolate those who are infected.

There have been nearly 7,500 confirmed infections worldwide, with officials saying the figure is likely to be much higher in reality.

Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia have been hardest hit.

Thomas Duncan, the first person to be diagnosed with Ebola in the US, is being treated at a Dallas hospital in isolation. He caught the virus in his native Liberia.

Mr Duncan's condition is critical but stable, doctors said on Monday.

He has been given Brincidofovir, a new experimental drug for treating Ebola which was developed in North Carolina.


So, could be human error or lack of prevention measures. I could imagine that stress could be a factor if human error is found. Hope she is okay and her family is too.
   
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Wait so, its not contagious and all the fear mongers are just illiterate fear mongers, but if you get near it without a a suit Buzz Aldrin could oprbit the moon in, you're going to catch it?

Frazzled's long stand policy of not believing anyone...reinstated.

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 Frazzled wrote:
Wait so, its not contagious and all the fear mongers are just illiterate fear mongers, but if you get near it without a a suit Buzz Aldrin could oprbit the moon in, you're going to catch it?

Frazzled's long stand policy of not believing anyone...reinstated.
No.

It is infectious and can be passed if the proper precautions are not met. Even in developed countries people can get sick and die from this disease; no on has claimed otherwise.

The issue is people can't differentiate between an couple of isolated cases (perfectly reasonable and easy to negate) and a massive full scale outbreak with throngs of dead littering the streets (near impossible).

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"When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people."
 
   
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 ScootyPuffJunior wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:
Wait so, its not contagious and all the fear mongers are just illiterate fear mongers, but if you get near it without a a suit Buzz Aldrin could oprbit the moon in, you're going to catch it?

Frazzled's long stand policy of not believing anyone...reinstated.
No.

It is infectious and can be passed if the proper precautions are not met. Even in developed countries people can get sick and die from this disease; no on has claimed otherwise.

The issue is people can't differentiate between an couple of isolated cases (perfectly reasonable and easy to negate) and a massive full scale outbreak with throngs of dead littering the streets (near impossible).


Isolated...now. If you have to be in space suits to avoid getting it, how the hell are you going to keep this from spreading in the 99% of the world without space suits? Even in developed countries, how many hospitals have space suits?

Again, Frazzled confused. NPR is on the computer saying the number of cases is increasing exponentially.
I think to be safe I'm just going to spray everyone who gets near me with lysol. From orbit. Its the only way to be sure.

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You don't need to be in a space suit, but because the US is a modern economy and have the space suits anyway and we take no chances, we wear them.

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 Ouze wrote:
You don't need to be in a space suit, but because the US is a modern economy and have the space suits anyway and we take no chances, we wear them.


If you don't need to be in a space suit, how did the Spanish nurse catch it?
Seriously, there's 8 levels of mixed messages being played in the media right now.

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We don't know yet, so the media is doing what it always does when it doesn't know: spewing out confused bs until it does.

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 Frazzled wrote:
Isolated...now. If you have to be in space suits to avoid getting it, how the hell are you going to keep this from spreading in the 99% of the world without space suits? Even in developed countries, how many hospitals have space suits?

Again, Frazzled confused. NPR is on the computer saying the number of cases is increasing exponentially.
I think to be safe I'm just going to spray everyone who gets near me with lysol. From orbit. Its the only way to be sure.
Yes, the number of cases in Africa is climbing and there is a good reason for that... And we have discussed many times on this thread already (I'll repeat it though: the areas affected were not ready, they don't have enough hospital beds, the hospitals are understaffed and unequipped, and cultural distrust of foreign aid workers).

The bottom line is this: Africa =\= United States

As to how the nurse got it... We don't know. Considering the number of people that were in contact with the patient, only one person contracting the disease isn't too terrible.

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She only had contact with the patient twice and got it.
And that person went on holiday. How many infected in Spain now?

Africa is not the US. True. However if there are five thousand cases here, there won't be much difference. If it gets to Latin America and spreads, there will indeed be five thousand cases here, in short order. Time to call in the OLL* while we still can.

*Orbital Lysol Launcher

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How many days are we now on that "48 hours until the apocalypse" timer?

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-29516882

Investigations are under way at a hospital in Madrid after a Spanish nurse became the first person known to have contracted the deadly Ebola virus outside West Africa.

The nurse had treated two Spanish missionaries who died of the disease after being flown home from the region.

Three other people, including the nurse's husband, have been quarantined.

The European Commission has asked Spain to explain how the nurse could have become infected.

Some 3,400 people have died in the outbreak - mostly in West Africa.

The Spanish auxiliary nurse, a 40-year-old woman who has not been named, was one of about 30 staff at the Carlos III hospital in Madrid who had been treating priests Manuel Garcia Viejo and Miguel Pajares, officials say.

Mr Garcia Viejo, 69, died at the hospital on 25 September after catching Ebola in Sierra Leone. Mr Pajares, 75, died in August after contracting the virus in Liberia.

The hospital was reported to have had extreme protective measures in place


The nurse had twice gone into the room where Mr Garcia Viejo had been treated - to be directly involved in his care and to disinfect the room after his death. Both times she was wearing protective clothing.

Madrid healthcare director Antonia Alemany told reporters that according to the information available: "The nurse went into the room wearing the individual protection gear and there's no knowledge of an accidental exposure to risk."

Shortly afterwards the nurse went on holiday, a hospital spokesman said, but fell ill on 30 September and was admitted to Alcorcon hospital in south-west Madrid on Sunday after being tested positive for Ebola.

Early on Tuesday she was moved under police escort to Carlos III hospital in the capital and is said to be in a stable condition.

Her husband and a second nurse who treated the missionary are now in quarantine, officials said, as well as a man who recently arrived on a flight from Nigeria.

Public health director Mercedes Vinuesa told parliament on Tuesday that a list of people the nurse might have had contact with was being drawn up so they could be monitored.

It was not clear where the nurse had gone on holiday.

It is also unclear how she could have contracted Ebola.

The hospital was reported to have had extreme protective measures in place including two sets of overalls, gloves and goggles.

However, health workers told El Pais newspaper that the clothing did not have level-four biological security, which is fully waterproof and with independent breathing apparatus.

Instead it was level two, the paper says, as photographs provided by staff indicated that the overalls did not allow for ventilation and the gloves were made of latex and bound with adhesive tape.Patients should be isolated - ideally in a hospital with the highest level of bio-safety.

Such a facility would use a specially designed tent with controlled ventilation to house the patient's bed - this allows staff to provide clinical care while containing the infection.

Staff treating the patient must wear protective suits, gloves, masks and goggles. This equipment should be completely impermeable since Ebola is spread in bodily fluids such as sweat, urine and blood

Any clinical waste such as syringes, paper towels or clothing from the patient should be incinerated. A dedicated laboratory should be used to carry out any necessary tests.



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Could we have a thread name change to "The Ebola Thread" or something, the current name is misleading.

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Ebola virus: busting the myths
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-29311659

As the Ebola virus continues to spread in Sierra Leone, Liberia and Guinea, health officials are concerned that myths and misinformation may continue to spread too.

The virus has claimed more than 2,800 lives so far, and experts say a key part of fighting the disease is to make sure people are armed with the facts.

We take a look at some of the rumours surrounding Ebola - from false claims of miracle onions to condensed milk.
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MYTH: Salt water or raw onions can protect you

Raw onions are not secret weapons against the disease

Salt water simply cannot stop you from catching Ebola.

In fact drinking salty water, particularly in hot conditions, can be dangerous.

The WHO says at least two people in Nigeria died from this practice, believing it could prevent them from getting the disease.

And health workers in Guinea have been asked whether eating raw onions once a day for three days or a daily drink of condensed milk can keep Ebola away.

Though having a diet of nutritious food can keep you generally healthy, raw onions and milk do not stop you getting the infection.

Ebola is spread through close contact with the bodily fluids of someone who has the disease - for example the virus is present in vomit, urine, tears or saliva.

People can help protect themselves by avoiding close contact with anyone who has signs or symptoms of the disease.

MYTH: You cannot catch Ebola from a deceased person
Close contact with deceased persons should be avoided

Even when someone has died of Ebola, the virus may still be present.

Health officials are concerned the disease might spread during traditional funeral practices that involve close contact with the deceased person.

The WHO says people who have died of Ebola must be handled using strong protective clothing and gloves, and they must be buried immediately.

Officials recommend burials should be conducted by people who have had training in how to stop the infection from spreading further.

MYTH: It cannot be caught through sexual contact

If a man has Ebola, the virus may be present in his bodily fluids - including his semen.

And Ebola can remain in semen for seven weeks after recovery - even if doctors have confirmed there is no longer any viral particles in the blood.

Anyone who has had Ebola should avoid sexual intercourse or use condoms during this time.

MYTH: Health care workers brought the disease into affected countries

There has been some mistrust towards healthcare workers

There have been recent reports that health workers in Guinea were attacked because residents believed they had brought Ebola into the country.

But this was not true.

The WHO says the initial source of the Ebola virus was likely to be human contact with wild animals through hunting, butchering and preparing meat from infected wild animals.

It is possible, for example, that close contact with infected bats, shrews or small rodents passed on the disease.

During this outbreak, experts have advised people not to hunt or eat this type of bush meat.

MYTH: Expensive hand sanitizers are needed to kill the disease

Washing your hands can help stop the spread of Ebola

Frequent hand washing with soap and water is recommended, particularly if you are in contact with an Ebola patient or his/her surroundings.

Alcohol gel can be useful but if the hands are visibly dirty it is important to wash your hands with clean water and soap, health officials say.


Symptoms include high fever, bleeding and central nervous system damage
Fatality rate can reach 90% - but current outbreak has mortality rate of about 55%
Incubation period is two to 21 days
There is no proven vaccine or cure

Supportive care such as rehydrating patients who have diarrhoea and vomiting can help recovery
Fruit bats, a delicacy for some West Africans, are considered to be virus's natural host










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 loki old fart wrote:

MYTH: It cannot be caught through sexual contact

If a man has Ebola, the virus may be present in his bodily fluids - including his semen.

And Ebola can remain in semen for seven weeks after recovery - even if doctors have confirmed there is no longer any viral particles in the blood.

Anyone who has had Ebola should avoid sexual intercourse or use condoms during this time.





OMG!!! the Ebolas replaces all da Spermz!!!!


(on second thought, that actually would make a pretty badass zombie movie... "patient zero infected his partner via ejaculation, and she spawned brain feeding zomboid children who spread the virus like wildfire"
   
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Looks like the real experts are hedging their bets against our forum "experts":

Some Ebola experts worry virus may spread more easily than assumed By David Willman

U.S. officials leading the fight against history's worst outbreak of Ebola have said they know the ways the virus is spread and how to stop it. They say that unless an air traveler from disease-ravaged West Africa has a fever of at least 101.5 degrees or other symptoms, co-passengers are not at risk.

"At this point there is zero risk of transmission on the flight," Dr. Thomas Frieden, director of the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said after a Liberian man who flew through airports in Brussels and Washington was diagnosed with the disease last week in Dallas.

Other public health officials have voiced similar assurances, saying Ebola is spread only through physical contact with a symptomatic individual or their bodily fluids. "Ebola is not transmitted by the air. It is not an airborne infection," said Dr. Edward Goodman of Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas, where the Liberian patient remains in critical condition.

Yet some scientists who have long studied Ebola say such assurances are premature — and they are concerned about what is not known about the strain now on the loose. It is an Ebola outbreak like none seen before, jumping from the bush to urban areas, giving the virus more opportunities to evolve as it passes through multiple human hosts.

Dr. C.J. Peters, who battled a 1989 outbreak of the virus among research monkeys housed in Virginia and who later led the CDC's most far-reaching study of Ebola's transmissibility in humans, said he would not rule out the possibility that it spreads through the air in tight quarters.

"We just don't have the data to exclude it," said Peters, who continues to research viral diseases at the University of Texas in Galveston.

Dr. Philip K. Russell, a virologist who oversaw Ebola research while heading the U.S. Army's Medical Research and Development Command, and who later led the government's massive stockpiling of smallpox vaccine after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, also said much was still to be learned. "Being dogmatic is, I think, ill-advised, because there are too many unknowns here."

If Ebola were to mutate on its path from human to human, said Russell and other scientists, its virulence might wane — or it might spread in ways not observed during past outbreaks, which were stopped after transmission among just two to three people, before the virus had a greater chance to evolve. The present outbreak in West Africa has killed approximately 3,400 people, and there is no medical cure for Ebola.

"I see the reasons to dampen down public fears," Russell said. "But scientifically, we're in the middle of the first experiment of multiple, serial passages of Ebola virus in man.... God knows what this virus is going to look like. I don't."


Source: http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ebola-questions-20141007-story.html#page=1


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AND of course some states are ready to jump the gun:

Connecticut Governor Declares State of Emergency Over Ebola as a Precaution
The order gives the state the authority to quarantine and isolate people who may have been exposed to the virus

http://www.necn.com/news/new-england/Connecticut-Governor-Declares-State-of-Emergency-Over-Ebola-as-a-Precaution-278380851.html

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I'm a little surprised that you need a state of emergency to quarantine someone. It seems like a single court order would suffice.

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 Frazzled wrote:
Wait so, its not contagious and all the fear mongers are just illiterate fear mongers, but if you get near it without a a suit Buzz Aldrin could oprbit the moon in, you're going to catch it?

Frazzled's long stand policy of not believing anyone...reinstated.
No.

It is infectious and can be passed if the proper precautions are not met. Even in developed countries people can get sick and die from this disease; no on has claimed otherwise.

The issue is people can't differentiate between an couple of isolated cases (perfectly reasonable and easy to negate) and a massive full scale outbreak with throngs of dead littering the streets (near impossible).


Isolated...now. If you have to be in space suits to avoid getting it, how the hell are you going to keep this from spreading in the 99% of the world without space suits? Even in developed countries, how many hospitals have space suits?

Again, Frazzled confused. NPR is on the computer saying the number of cases is increasing exponentially.
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I'm a little surprised that you need a state of emergency to quarantine someone. It seems like a single court order would suffice.




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Yeah... that feels dangerously overreaching to me. You have hundreds of cases, sure. You have one or two and a uncooperative patient, I think a court order is adequate. But a state of emergency with not even a single case in the state? I'd be concerned with my slate of elected officials. What other rights might they choose to abrogate for hypothetical situations?

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 Ouze wrote:
Yeah... that feels dangerously overreaching to me. You have hundreds of cases, sure. You have one or two and a uncooperative patient, I think a court order is adequate. But a state of emergency with not even a single case in the state? I'd be concerned with my slate of elected officials. What other rights might they choose to abrogate for hypothetical situations?



You dont, but SOEs allow some rights to be curtailed and abrogated to the state "until further notice".

from the CDC:
The federal government derives its authority for isolation and quarantine from the Commerce Clause of the U.S. Constitution.

Under section 361 of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S. Code § 264), the U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services is authorized to take measures to prevent the entry and spread of communicable diseases from foreign countries into the United States and between states.

The authority for carrying out these functions on a daily basis has been delegated to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).


http://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/aboutlawsregulationsquarantineisolation.html

So, in the end there is no need for a government to declare an SOE to enforce a quarantine, unless of course the state has other needs to do so.

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That authority does not seem to require a declared state of emergency.

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