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Frazzled should like this one...

Obama is Infecting Christians with Ebola To Destroy Jesus and Start A New Age of Liberal Darkness

http://bigamericannews.com/2014/09/30/confirmed-obama-is-infecting-christians-with-ebola-to-destroy-jesus-and-start-a-new-age-of-liberal-darkness/

 d-usa wrote:
You know how it is incredibly easy NOT to accidentally shoot yourself with a gun?
You know how people still manage to accidentally shoot themselves with a gun?

On a very, very limited tangent: I never understood how anyone could have a negligent discharge when cleaning their gun, which appears to be one of the more common methods Darwin uses to add a little chlorine to the pool, so to speak.

I later learned that several common, popular firearms actually have pulling the trigger as the first step of field stripping them. I still think those people are pretty dumb because you really need to check the chamber before that, but now I at least sort of see how it could happen - none of the guns i've owned or stripped required that step.

 Peter Wiggin wrote:
Frazzled should like this one...

Obama is Infecting Christians with Ebola To Destroy Jesus and Start A New Age of Liberal Darkness

http://bigamericannews.com/2014/09/30/confirmed-obama-is-infecting-christians-with-ebola-to-destroy-jesus-and-start-a-new-age-of-liberal-darkness/

Oh sweet jebus... tell me that's satire?

 whembly wrote:

 Peter Wiggin wrote:
Frazzled should like this one...

Obama is Infecting Christians with Ebola To Destroy Jesus and Start A New Age of Liberal Darkness

http://bigamericannews.com/2014/09/30/confirmed-obama-is-infecting-christians-with-ebola-to-destroy-jesus-and-start-a-new-age-of-liberal-darkness/

Oh sweet jebus... tell me that's satire?

Has to be, but it is still hilarious.

 whembly wrote:

 Peter Wiggin wrote:
Frazzled should like this one...

Obama is Infecting Christians with Ebola To Destroy Jesus and Start A New Age of Liberal Darkness

http://bigamericannews.com/2014/09/30/confirmed-obama-is-infecting-christians-with-ebola-to-destroy-jesus-and-start-a-new-age-of-liberal-darkness/

Oh sweet jebus... tell me that's satire?

Check my earlier posts in this thread, specifically the one involving the WBC.

Everyone will be giddy with excitement because when Ebola Zombie starts walking walking around it will give everyone LIVING a chance to yell out our front door "GET OFF MY LAWN!!!" and unload a full CLIP and throw burning gasoline soak MAGAZINES at the Ebola Zombie.

 d-usa wrote:

 Peter Wiggin wrote:
No dude, you just want to argue on a forum

If you post bad information I will call you out.

D, he did the same thing with me pages ago. I offered unequivocal proof that what he was saying was wrong and the only retort was, "Stop with the personal attacks" and, "You just want to argue, bro."

Just rest assured that, surprisingly, most Americans aren't panicking about Ebola (I might have already posted this, but it's worth revisiting):

Pew Research wrote:As the Ebola outbreak in Africa continues, and two patients receive treatment in the U.S., most Americans have at least a fair amount of confidence in the government’s ability to prevent a major outbreak of Ebola in the U.S. In addition, relatively few are concerned that they or a family member will be exposed to the virus.

The new national survey by the Pew Research Center, conducted Oct. 2-5 among 1,007 adults, finds that 20% say they have a “great deal” of confidence in the federal government to prevent a major outbreak of Ebola in the U.S., while another 38% say they have a “fair amount” of confidence. Fewer than half express “not too much confidence” (24%) or “no confidence at all” (17%) in the government to prevent a major Ebola outbreak.

So far, the Ebola virus has not led to widespread concern about personal health: Just 11% are very worried that they or someone in their family will be exposed to the virus, while another 21% are somewhat worried. Two-thirds say they are either not too (37%) or not at all worried (30%) about contracting Ebola.

Public concern over the possibility of contracting the Ebola virus is lower than for other recent public health threats. In August 2009, 45% were worried about the possibility of being exposed to swine flu, and in November 2005, 38% worried about contracting bird flu.

Republicans Less Confident in Gov’t Ability to Prevent Ebola Outbreak

Republicans are much more skeptical than Democrats and independents about the government’s ability to prevent a major Ebola outbreak in the U.S.

By more than two-to-one, more Democrats say they have a great deal or fair amount of confidence in the government to deal with Ebola (69%) than not much or no confidence at all (28%). Independents also are confident in the government’s ability to prevent an Ebola outbreak in the U.S. (56% vs. 42%). Republicans are divided: About as many say they have little or no confidence (51%) in the federal government to prevent a major Ebola outbreak as say they have a great deal or fair amount of confidence (48%).

In November 2005, amid concerns over an outbreak of bird flu, Republicans were far more confident than Democrats in the government’s ability to prevent a major outbreak. At that time, shortly after the Bush administration was widely criticized for its response to Hurricane Katrina, 74% of Republicans and just 35% of Democrats expressed confidence in the government’s ability to deal with a possible bird flu outbreak.

Blacks, Hispanics More Concerned about Exposure to Ebola

Nearly half of blacks (47%) and 39% of Hispanics say they are very or somewhat worried about being exposed to the Ebola virus. By contrast, just 27% of whites are worried about getting the virus.

Women (37%) are somewhat more concerned than men (27%) that they or someone in their family will be exposed to Ebola.

Concern over Ebola exposure is higher among those with less education. Only about one-in-five college graduates (22%) say they are worried about being exposed to the Ebola virus. By comparison, 34% of those with some college experience and 38% of those with no more than a high school diploma say they are worried that they may contract Ebola.

source

Some pictures from that article:

The hospital was reported to have had extreme protective measures in place including two sets of overalls, gloves and goggles.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-29516882
However, health workers told El Pais newspaper that the clothing did not have level-four biological security, which is fully waterproof and with independent breathing apparatus.

Instead it was level two, the paper says, as photographs provided by staff indicated that the overalls did not allow for ventilation and the gloves were made of latex and bound with adhesive tape.

So the BBC says extreme caution should be taken.


But Washing your hands can help stop the spread of Ebola
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-29311659

Frequent hand washing with soap and water is recommended, particularly if you are in contact with an Ebola patient or his/her surroundings.

Alcohol gel can be useful but if the hands are visibly dirty it is important to wash your hands with clean water and soap, health officials say.
How not to catch Ebola
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-29518703
As the outbreak continues to spread, the fear of catching the disease is rising.

Experts are learning more about how to contain the virus that has infected around 7,500 people in West Africa.

The race is on to stop this deadly disease that kills more than half of those it infects.

Here's what is known.
DON'T TOUCH

Ebola is spread by direct contact with contaminated body fluids. Blood, vomit and saliva can all carry and spread the deadly virus.

Medical staff wear rubber gloves that must be regularly disinfected

The relatives of sick patients and the healthcare workers who care for them are at highest risk of infection, but anyone who comes into close proximity potentially puts themselves at risk.

For that reason, contact should only be for essential medical care and always under the full protection of the right clothing.

The virus can't breach protective gear, such as gloves, a mask, goggles, a full body suit and tough rubber wellington boots, but too few have access to state-of-the-art kit.

Those who do get to wear it should keep changing it every 40 minutes to be safe. Inside the suit it can get up to about 40C. Getting into the kit takes about five minutes. Taking it off again takes the wearer and a designated helper "buddy" about 15 minutes.

This is one of the most dangerous times for contamination and people are sprayed with chlorine as this happens.
COVER YOUR EYES

If an infected droplet does get on to your skin, it can be washed away immediately with soap and water or an alcohol-based hand sanitiser.

The eyes are a different matter. A spray of droplets from a sneeze directly into the eye, for example, could let the virus in.

Similarly, the mucous membranes of the mouth and inside of the nose are vulnerable areas, as is broken skin.
LAUNDRY

One of the most shocking symptoms of Ebola is bleeding. Patients can bleed from the eyes, ears, nose, mouth and rectum. Diarrhoea and vomit may also be tainted with blood.

A big infection risk is cleaning up. Any laundry or other clinical waste should be incinerated. Any medical equipment that needs to be kept should be decontaminated.

Without adequate sterilisation, virus transmission can continue and amplify.

Minute droplets on a surface that hasn't been adequately cleaned could, in theory, pose a risk. And it's unclear how long the virus could sit there and remain a threat. Flu viruses and other germs can live two hours or longer on hard environmental surfaces like tables, doorknobs, and desks.

The nurse who recently became infected while caring for two Ebola patients in Spain had twice gone into the room where one of the the patients was being treated - to be directly involved in his care and to disinfect the room after his death. Both times she was wearing protective clothing.

Soap and water or alcohol-based hand sanitisers readily disrupt the envelope of this single-stranded RNA virus, and decontamination with dilute bleach is effective and readily available even in remote settings.

 Ouze wrote:
I should probably own a first aid kit though, right? All joking aside.

My wife and I each have a first aid kit in our cars. Plus a winter kit that has blankets, etc. I also have a dog rescue kit with a leash, treats, and a blanket. I've had to use that kit twice so far

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
I should probably own a first aid kit though, right? All joking aside.

My wife and I each have a first aid kit in our cars. Plus a winter kit that has blankets, etc. I also have a dog rescue kit with a leash, treats, and a blanket. I've had to use that kit twice so far

Also if can.....MOPP GEAR

Oh, we also have flares, torches, water, and granola bars.

 Jihadin wrote:

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
I should probably own a first aid kit though, right? All joking aside.

My wife and I each have a first aid kit in our cars. Plus a winter kit that has blankets, etc. I also have a dog rescue kit with a leash, treats, and a blanket. I've had to use that kit twice so far

Also if can.....MOPP GEAR

Now we're talkin.

Quick shut the borders keep the americans out they infected.

 Ouze wrote:
I should probably own a first aid kit though, right? All joking aside.

You seriously don't have at least one? I'm no medical professional, but look at one of these: http://www.lifelinefirstaid.com/product/13

The bandaids are, like all bandaids, basically useless. The rest of the stuff is decent enough to clean a wound and put pressure on it if you hurt yourself. I take one with me every time I go camping, except mine has superglue in it for small cuts also*. You could actually just buy the things from that list and have at least doulbe the supplies about the same amount of money, minus the case.

Also something kind of gross but obvious that I found out the hard way. Feminine hygiene products do an amazing job at soaking blood.

* You probably shouldn't do this.

I've a Combat Medic Bag and lot's of Crile's and Kelly's

There is a very real argument ongoing right now, outside of this forum in the medical profession, on where to draw the line. If the valued reaction to the ebola pandemic in Africa was a continuum you would have;

There is absolutely nothing to worry about, all fears/concerns about ebola are overexaggerated------------------------------------------------------------------------I'm going to stock up on ammo, water and move to the mountains in my hazmat suit.

The reality of the situation lies somewhere in the middle and it's worth having a discussion on where that line is. If anything else, we can determine this by judging how this outbreak was handled at the onset--which is likely attributed to the 'routine' way we initially viewed 'another' ebola outbreak in remote African villages. Obviously the world doesn't work that way anymore and one would think we learned that lesson when we genetically traced the origins of HIV. If someone sneezes in Africa, there is a chance someone in France will catch a cold---and even if it is a remote chance, we need to grow up as a international medical community and recognize that fact.

Also, not so much in this forum, but based off how I've heard medical professionals discuss this outbreak---there is a disconcerting tribalistic air to some of the discussion. "Has the doomsday clock wound to zero yet?". Perhaps not for us and perhaps not ever for us---but right now, it's pretty damn apocalyptic in Liberia and Sierra Leone. There are a vast number of ebola documentaries available on Youtube if you want to see the in your face, humanistic side of this disaster--and it's beyond the word tragic.

 Ouze wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
You know how it is incredibly easy NOT to accidentally shoot yourself with a gun?
You know how people still manage to accidentally shoot themselves with a gun?

On a very, very limited tangent: I never understood how anyone could have a negligent discharge when cleaning their gun, which appears to be one of the more common methods Darwin uses to add a little chlorine to the pool, so to speak.

I later learned that several common, popular firearms actually have pulling the trigger as the first step of field stripping them. I still think those people are pretty dumb because you really need to check the chamber before that, but now I at least sort of see how it could happen - none of the guns i've owned or stripped required that step.

A lot fewer of those discharges are "accidental" than the figures indicate. https://aaimedicine.org/journal-of-insurance-medicine/jim/2000/032-04-0266.pdf

The general rule is if someone is accidentally killed while "cleaning their gun" is it's a suicide. For all the terror drums beat on the news, about half of all gun deaths in the US are suicides or "gun cleaning accidents". Not that idiots don't do stupid stuff, but people who bother to clean their guns tend not to forget to check the chamber or go pew pew while pointing at themselves.

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
I should probably own a first aid kit though, right? All joking aside.

My wife and I each have a first aid kit in our cars. Plus a winter kit that has blankets, etc. I also have a dog rescue kit with a leash, treats, and a blanket. I've had to use that kit twice so far

I got one in each if our cars as well, although mine are basically EMT packs that I put together. Nice bags from the sporting goods store intented for going fishing, so it has lots of compartments and was easy to organize. I stock it with supplies from work.

Another great future option for those soon to be dads: get a basic neutral colored diaper bag. (We have a big diaper bag, and then I have a small black one for when I just have to run some errants with her). Once you no longer need it a diaper bag makes an excellent first aid bag.

Don't be adding in IV bags and IV sets to the bag unless you really know how to insert an IV.

 AgeOfEgos wrote:

Also, not so much in this forum, but based off how I've heard medical professionals discuss this outbreak---there is a disconcerting tribalistic air to some of the discussion. "Has the doomsday clock wound to zero yet?". Perhaps not for us and perhaps not ever for us---but right now, it's pretty damn apocalyptic in Liberia and Sierra Leone. There are a vast number of ebola documentaries available on Youtube if you want to see the in your face, humanistic side of this disaster--and it's beyond the word tragic.

You are more likely to be hit by lightening that to contract Ebola and thousands of times more likely to die in a car crash. Assuming any American dies from it here, you are still 600,000 times more likely to die from a cheeseburgers (heart disease). That was a true statement.

The important thing is that we don't raise taxes to fund healthcare that could stop this. Not for America, and certainly not to help people over there. Better to spend trillions bombing the world after the fact than millions helping it avoid the need.

That was a joke statement , but only for half the voters. You can vote in a few weeks if you think it should be more (or less) of a joke.

 d-usa wrote:
Once you no longer need it a diaper bag makes an excellent first aid bag.

That's my plan.

Meh I still think the ebola in america is a plant.

Day 1 ebola hits aferica tons die.
Day 2 no one cares outside africa and rarely mentioned
day 3 cnn says that they are working on cures but since it never hits the americas/western countries there is not a immenent demand for the vaccines to be worked on.
Day 4: they try new vacine on the americans infected they make it
day 5 They bring back more ebola infected never say why other then tto treat them
Day 6: Man makes it through airport which I cant get through if I fart in the line up.
Day 7: More infected in america now more people investing in the ebola cure and it is grealy funded and they trying new treatments.

If it does become an epidemic we can all look forward to the donut diet

RAWRAIrobblerobble wrote:

 Ouze wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
You know how it is incredibly easy NOT to accidentally shoot yourself with a gun?
You know how people still manage to accidentally shoot themselves with a gun?

On a very, very limited tangent: I never understood how anyone could have a negligent discharge when cleaning their gun, which appears to be one of the more common methods Darwin uses to add a little chlorine to the pool, so to speak.

I later learned that several common, popular firearms actually have pulling the trigger as the first step of field stripping them. I still think those people are pretty dumb because you really need to check the chamber before that, but now I at least sort of see how it could happen - none of the guns i've owned or stripped required that step.

A lot fewer of those discharges are "accidental" than the figures indicate. https://aaimedicine.org/journal-of-insurance-medicine/jim/2000/032-04-0266.pdf

The general rule is if someone is accidentally killed while "cleaning their gun" is it's a suicide. For all the terror drums beat on the news, about half of all gun deaths in the US are suicides or "gun cleaning accidents". Not that idiots don't do stupid stuff, but people who bother to clean their guns tend not to forget to check the chamber or go pew pew while pointing at themselves.

I believe in some circles that "killed while cleaning his duty pistol" was code for a LEO committing suicide.

I think that a lot of the striker fired pistols (Glocks, Springfields) have you depress the trigger as the first step of field stripping a gun for cleaning. I still see people who get injured from this part of field stripping as being at fault, rather than the manufacturer, as it be injured in such a manner means that you did not pay enough attention to the four rules of gun safety;
1. All guns are always loaded.
2. Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target.
4. Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.


By personal bug bear is "the gun went off" to explain what happened when someone was being a donkey cave with a firearm

When the Federal Government takes over all media outlet's. Get worry......really worry.....

 Alpharius wrote:
I'm just glad to see that Peter is still among the living, and healthy.

That ebola can be a tricksy one

It spared him because he is doing its work.

 MrDwhitey wrote:
It spared him because he is doing its work.

WAIT.......God Wills It!!!

Ebola is God?

We're getting into WBC saying God is punishing us for stuff territory here...

 MrDwhitey wrote:
Ebola is God?

We're getting into WBC saying God is punishing us for stuff territory here...

Well, they did say this outbreak was to punish Africa for worshiping Obama.

Ebola is God?

Well.....A god at least.......