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d-usa wrote: Nope, the person is responsible for the costs of everything. The two nurses might be able to claim it as a workman's comp case, but I wouldn't count on it.
This seems to be a pretty clear worker's comp claim to me. Even if they were negligent and partially responsible - hell, even with most willful misconduct, worker's comp usually kicks in (and you get fired). So I doubt the nurses are on the hook for what any jury in the country, let alone the arbitrator they'd ee assigned far before it got that far, would consider world-related injuries.
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Flight crew or not...he should have been suited up.
And now, we don't know where he is!
Let's put our rational hats on for a minute...
He is doing exactly what he is supposed to do:
NBC wrote:"His role is to oversee the process of transport including on the tarmac," Randy Davis, vice president at Phoenix Air, told NBC News. "Part of our protocol is to have 1 person NOT in a bio-Hazard suit. "
Davis said the man, who he did not name, is the team's medical safety coordinator. Standard protocol is for him to wear street clothes, Davis said, because the suits can block field of vision and hearing. Davis said the man has been trained on keeping safe distance from patients and is ready to "suit up" if needed.
Meanwhile, a woman at the county jail down the street from my house had a fever so they took her to the hospital to test for Ebola virus disease and of course it was all over my Facebook feed.
Then, unsurprisingly, this happened:
Loudoun Inmate With Low-Grade Fever Does Not Have Ebola, Authorites Say
An inmate at a Loudoun County jail who was transferred to a hospital after developing a low-grade fever does not have Ebola, authorities said Thursday.
The woman had recently traveled from Sierra Leone, and was taken to Inova Lansdowne Hospital in the midst of mounting concerns over the spread of Ebola.
Authorities confirmed around 5:50 p.m. Thursday that the woman does not have Ebola. Medical professionals ruled out Ebola because the patient does not meet the testing threshold, a hospital spokesperson told Northern Virginia Bureau Chief Julie Carey.
Earlier Thursday afternoon, Loudoun County officials held a press conference about the situation, saying they felt the patient was low-risk but were acting out of an abundance of caution.
"The fever is lower than is typically symptomatic for anybody experiencing" symptoms of Ebola, said Loudoun County Sheriff Michael L. Chapman during the press conference, "but nevertheless, we felt in an abundance of caution, it would be a very good thing to have this individual checked out."
The woman arrived at Dulles International Airport on Monday, when airport authorities learned she had a warrant out for her arrest in Maryland. She was then taken to the Loudoun County Adult Detention Center.
Authorities said the woman was screened by the Centers for Disease Control after arriving in the United States, and then again at the jail, but no medical concerns were discovered at those times.
The patient developed a fever Thursday morning, and was then isolated and monitored within the jail. Staff members there also put protective measures into place, officials said.
Loudoun County Fire and Rescue then took the patient to Inova Lansdowne Hospital, where she was evaluated.
Authorities said there could be many reasons for the woman's fever.
Citing privacy concerns, authorities would only identify her as a middle-aged woman.
Authorities said they had begun preparing six weeks ago to respond to any possible threat of Ebola
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ISIS is sitting back and letting the Ebola Scare work its way into America way of life.......Damn them clever arse terrorists
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Da Boss wrote: Doesn't that act as a financial disincentive to sensible behavior in a situation like this with a potential outbreak of a dangerous contagious disease?
Wow. I kinda felt dumb for asking that question because I assumed the cost would be eaten by the state in the case of people who were legitimate risks (perhaps not cranks with no contact or potential contact with the disease). Now I am just amazed that the system is as good as it is at controlling outbreaks of contagious disease!
Thanks for the links and quotes, very educational.
There are a lot of ways to get out of having to pay the bill though, or paying a smaller amount of it, particularly if people have little or no income. A lot of cities have free clinics as well. So in the end, a lot of the cost is eaten by the state.
People really need a crash course on what they're about to deal with and handle and practice practice practice.
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TheMeanDM wrote: You didn't happen to notice that he was taking biohazard bags from the crew...did you?
It just makes me laugh.
I bet they didn't even remotely fly the plane over the ocean and detonated it with a nuke to make sure nobody will ever touch it again.
Just got done watching Red 2 haven't you?
Won't work though because one has to nuke the airport, city, state, and route of the aircraft as it fly's out over the ocean. Only way to be sure.....but then you have to nuke everyplace that everyone went to who navigated their way through the airport that's going to be nuked afterwards
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Well, I was trying to stay on topic by commenting on how people are just a little too over the top when it comes to freaking out about planes, protective gear, and stuff like that.
Like the school shutting down because somebody flew on Frontier airlines even though they don't even know that the teacher was even on the same plane. Never mind that nobody in the school would even be exposed until (and a big IF) the teacher shows symptoms two weeks from now.
The guy without gear took empty bio-hazard bags from someone, nothing more than that.
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Nothing wrong in being "safe then sorry".
now National Guard units are to called up to support the USMC Task Force to West Africa. Seems besides setting up medical stations they are going to test patients for Ebola
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Flight crew or not...he should have been suited up.
And now, we don't know where he is!
Let's put our rational hats on for a minute...
He is doing exactly what he is supposed to do:
NBC wrote:"His role is to oversee the process of transport including on the tarmac," Randy Davis, vice president at Phoenix Air, told NBC News. "Part of our protocol is to have 1 person NOT in a bio-Hazard suit. "
Davis said the man, who he did not name, is the team's medical safety coordinator. Standard protocol is for him to wear street clothes, Davis said, because the suits can block field of vision and hearing. Davis said the man has been trained on keeping safe distance from patients and is ready to "suit up" if needed.
Meanwhile, a woman at the county jail down the street from my house had a fever so they took her to the hospital to test for Ebola virus disease and of course it was all over my Facebook feed.
Then, unsurprisingly, this happened:
Loudoun Inmate With Low-Grade Fever Does Not Have Ebola, Authorites Say
An inmate at a Loudoun County jail who was transferred to a hospital after developing a low-grade fever does not have Ebola, authorities said Thursday.
The woman had recently traveled from Sierra Leone, and was taken to Inova Lansdowne Hospital in the midst of mounting concerns over the spread of Ebola.
Authorities confirmed around 5:50 p.m. Thursday that the woman does not have Ebola. Medical professionals ruled out Ebola because the patient does not meet the testing threshold, a hospital spokesperson told Northern Virginia Bureau Chief Julie Carey.
Earlier Thursday afternoon, Loudoun County officials held a press conference about the situation, saying they felt the patient was low-risk but were acting out of an abundance of caution.
"The fever is lower than is typically symptomatic for anybody experiencing" symptoms of Ebola, said Loudoun County Sheriff Michael L. Chapman during the press conference, "but nevertheless, we felt in an abundance of caution, it would be a very good thing to have this individual checked out."
The woman arrived at Dulles International Airport on Monday, when airport authorities learned she had a warrant out for her arrest in Maryland. She was then taken to the Loudoun County Adult Detention Center.
Authorities said the woman was screened by the Centers for Disease Control after arriving in the United States, and then again at the jail, but no medical concerns were discovered at those times.
The patient developed a fever Thursday morning, and was then isolated and monitored within the jail. Staff members there also put protective measures into place, officials said.
Loudoun County Fire and Rescue then took the patient to Inova Lansdowne Hospital, where she was evaluated.
Authorities said there could be many reasons for the woman's fever.
Citing privacy concerns, authorities would only identify her as a middle-aged woman.
Authorities said they had begun preparing six weeks ago to respond to any possible threat of Ebola
Who cares if thats what hes supposed to be doing, It's still stupid. if anything you should be face palming over that. let hope that guy is at least wearing gloves for feth sake.
now that we know two nurses contracted it. is your position still that it's difficult to catch?
Good job that they are taking it seriously at the jail. Better that we all take it seriously rather than sticking our heads up our asses because we're cocky idiots that believe nothing bad can ever happen.
Yes, by every medical definition it is still hard to catch.
Edit: this is the first patient that spread the disease to someone else. And the people that got ill are only two (so far) out of a pretty big team of people that were elbows deep in this guys body fluids.
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d-usa wrote: Yes, by every medical definition it is still hard to catch.
Edit: this is the first patient that spread the disease to someone else. And the people that got ill are only two (so far) out of a pretty big team of people that were elbows deep in this guys body fluids.
Well, considering that the WHO & CDC both state that the virus can be spread by contact with "surfaces" that the EVD patient spread the disease to.....it really doesn't scream "hard to catch" to me.
We'll see in the coming days/weeks just how "hard" it is to catch based on if any of the 132 people on the plane, or any family/friends, that the 2nd Dallas nurse came into contact with show up with Ebola.
kb305 wrote: Who cares if thats what hes supposed to be doing, It's still stupid. if anything you should be face palming over that. let hope that guy is at least wearing gloves for feth sake.
now that we know two nurses contracted it. is your position still that it's difficult to catch?
Good job that they are taking it seriously at the jail. Better that we all take it seriously rather than sticking our heads up our asses because we're cocky idiots that believe nothing bad can ever happen.
Yep, still hard to catch.
You notion is comical: who cares if he is doing what he's supposed to be doing, he's doing it wrong. Luckily, you aren't in charge of health safety.
Like D said, there have been numerous patients in the US that have had Ebola virus disease and only one has spread it to anyone else. Like I've mentioned plenty of times before, the rate of secondary infections in this outbreak is about two (each sick person passes it to two other people). We've had, what, at least a half a dozen patients with Ebola virus disease in this country and only two other people have gotten sick? We are well below the secondary infection average. You know, just like every fething expert said.
I'm not saying they shouldn't take it seriously, I'm facepalming because the local news jumps on the "Woman with fever taken to hospital! Details to come!" story and all the stupid morons on my Facebook newsfeed start freaking out.
So yeah, overall I'd say we're doing pretty good. But what would I know, I'm just a cocky idiot!
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TheMeanDM wrote: Well, considering that the WHO & CDC both state that the virus can be spread by contact with "surfaces" that the EVD patient spread the disease to.....it really doesn't scream "hard to catch" to me.
We'll see in the coming days/weeks just how "hard" it is to catch based on if any of the 132 people on the plane, or any family/friends, that the 2nd Dallas nurse came into contact with show up with Ebola.
Except that it can only persist on exposed surfaces for a short period of time and just because you touch said surfaces, you don't automatically catch it (because the fluid it is contained in needs to make direct contact with fluids in your body).
So yep, still hard to catch.
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d-usa wrote: "When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people."
So I am curious precisely what manner of entry the virus used to enter the two nurses....you know.
If it's through bodily fluid exchange/exposure....some questions that need to be answered by the CDC are
1) what breakdowns in PPE removal (*IF* that's determined to be the weak link) allowed the nurses to come into contact with EVD
2) how was EVD intermingled with the bodily fluid of the nurses (did they have scratches? did they lick their fingers? rub their eyes? pick their nose?)
Because if it's really as "hard to get" as you make it out to be....and not as "long lasting" as you (or the CDC) claim....then how did these two get it?
If it's bodily fluid only, and *not* airborne....then why the need for respirator and completely sealed suits as the CDC people have been using?
Technically, all they would/should need is to follow the Droplet precautions...yes? Airborne precautions would be overkill.
Droplet precautions are used to prevent contact with mucus and other secretions from the nose and sinuses, throat, airways, and lungs.
When a patient talks, sneezes, or coughs, droplets that contain germs can travel about 3 feet.
Illnesses that require droplet precautions include influenza (flu), pertussis (whooping cough), and mumps.
Anyone who goes into the room should wear a surgical mask.
But they are treating the patients and such as if they were Airborne, or even worse.
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I truly do believe that
1) they aren't telling us everything about this that they know
2) they don't know as much as they lead people to believe (i.e. that it's not airborne capable)
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kb305 wrote: Who cares if thats what hes supposed to be doing, It's still stupid. if anything you should be face palming over that. let hope that guy is at least wearing gloves for feth sake.
now that we know two nurses contracted it. is your position still that it's difficult to catch?
Good job that they are taking it seriously at the jail. Better that we all take it seriously rather than sticking our heads up our asses because we're cocky idiots that believe nothing bad can ever happen.
Yep, still hard to catch.
You notion is comical: who cares if he is doing what he's supposed to be doing, he's doing it wrong. Luckily, you aren't in charge of health safety.
Like D said, there have been numerous patients in the US that have had Ebola virus disease and only one has spread it to anyone else. Like I've mentioned plenty of times before, the rate of secondary infections in this outbreak is about two (each sick person passes it to two other people). We've had, what, at least a half a dozen patients with Ebola virus disease in this country and only two other people have gotten sick? We are well below the secondary infection average. You know, just like every fething expert said.
I'm not saying they shouldn't take it seriously, I'm facepalming because the local news jumps on the "Woman with fever taken to hospital! Details to come!" story and all the stupid morons on my Facebook newsfeed start freaking out.
So yeah, overall I'd say we're doing pretty good. But what would I know, I'm just a cocky idiot!
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TheMeanDM wrote: Well, considering that the WHO & CDC both state that the virus can be spread by contact with "surfaces" that the EVD patient spread the disease to.....it really doesn't scream "hard to catch" to me.
We'll see in the coming days/weeks just how "hard" it is to catch based on if any of the 132 people on the plane, or any family/friends, that the 2nd Dallas nurse came into contact with show up with Ebola.
Except that it can only persist on exposed surfaces for a short period of time and just because you touch said surfaces, you don't automatically catch it (because the fluid it is contained in needs to make direct contact with fluids in your body).
So yep, still hard to catch.
The fact that the nurses even caught it at all is disturbing. last i checked, there is no evidence that they did anything wrong. its just speculation that they didn't follow protocol.
Either these nurses broke protocol, or they were not properly trained or the PPE provided to them is not strong enough to protect against ebola - meaning the hospitals are not prepared to deal with it. Not good no matter how you look at it.
these nurses also knew what they were dealing with. they would be wearing gloves, gown and mask at minimum yet they still caught it.
How long does it live on surfaces? Is it not also droplet?
Reading your earlier posts, your attitude reminds me of the guys in the first 20 seconds of this video.
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The fact that the nurses even caught it at all is disturbing. last i checked, there is no evidence that they did anything wrong. its just speculation that they didn't follow protocol. Either these nurses broke protocol, or they were not properly trained or the PPE provided to them is not strong enough to protect against ebola - meaning the hospitals are not prepared to deal with it. Not good no matter how you look at it.
these nurses also knew what they were dealing with. they would be wearing gloves, gown and mask at minimum yet they still caught it.
How long does it live on surfaces? Is it not also droplet?
Reading your earlier posts, your attitude reminds me of the guys in the first 20 seconds of this video.
It isn't "disturbing" that nurse caught it. If you knew anything about the disease, you would know that healthcare settings are where the disease spreads the easiest. The very nature of the disease makes it easy for medical personnel to catch the disease, since they are in such close contact with the patient. The Ebola virus can survive outside the body for a couple of hours, but UV light, heat, and exposure to oxygen quickly "deactivate" the virus (plus disinfectants destroy it easily). It also cannot survive in water.
Doctors Without Borders, who pretty much set the standard for Ebola safety in Africa, has had 25 staff personnel contract the disease and nine have died; unfortunately, it's part of the risk of treating a deadly disease. Besides, no one said that Americans (or other Westerners) are immune to the disease. But again, we are well below the average rate of secondary infections, because we are so awesome.
My attitude this entire time? Slightly irritated, but otherwise calm and rational.
TheMeanDM wrote: So I am curious precisely what manner of entry the virus used to enter the two nurses....you know.
If it's through bodily fluid exchange/exposure....some questions that need to be answered by the CDC are
1) what breakdowns in PPE removal (*IF* that's determined to be the weak link) allowed the nurses to come into contact with EVD 2) how was EVD intermingled with the bodily fluid of the nurses (did they have scratches? did they lick their fingers? rub their eyes? pick their nose?)
Because if it's really as "hard to get" as you make it out to be....and not as "long lasting" as you (or the CDC) claim....then how did these two get it?
If it's bodily fluid only, and *not* airborne....then why the need for respirator and completely sealed suits as the CDC people have been using?
Technically, all they would/should need is to follow the Droplet precautions...yes? Airborne precautions would be overkill.
Droplet precautions are used to prevent contact with mucus and other secretions from the nose and sinuses, throat, airways, and lungs.
When a patient talks, sneezes, or coughs, droplets that contain germs can travel about 3 feet. Illnesses that require droplet precautions include influenza (flu), pertussis (whooping cough), and mumps. Anyone who goes into the room should wear a surgical mask.
But they are treating the patients and such as if they were Airborne, or even worse.
Every single "issue" you're brought up has been answered at length by numerous people in this thread already so I'm not going to retype them for you. We don't know how the nurses contracted the disease, but all signs point to human error (which, I know this sounds crazy, is the most logical answer). Bottom line: gak happens and people make mistakes, even medical professionals. Like myself and others have already explained, it's hard to catch for the average person, but easier for healthcare workers.
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I truly do believe that 1) they aren't telling us everything about this that they know 2) they don't know as much as they lead people to believe (i.e. that it's not airborne capable)
"I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but let me go ahead and tell you about the conspiracies I believe in."
I did. If you did too, awesome. Now knock the dumb gak off.
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d-usa wrote: "When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people."
d-usa wrote: Well, I was trying to stay on topic by commenting on how people are just a little too over the top when it comes to freaking out about planes, protective gear, and stuff like that.
Like the school shutting down because somebody flew on Frontier airlines even though they don't even know that the teacher was even on the same plane. Never mind that nobody in the school would even be exposed until (and a big IF) the teacher shows symptoms two weeks from now.
The guy without gear took empty bio-hazard bags from someone, nothing more than that.
Considering the Keystone Kops way the Administration has handled this and, well everything, it seems like an extremely good idea to be overcautious.
"they are the JV team" ISIS then takes over an area the size of several states, in days. derp. "It will never come here" first case. "We have the best system in the world" first case sent home then comes back. Nurse TOLD TO GET ON A PLANE BY THE CDC ITSELF. "Well they just weren't following protocols" turns out there were no protocols and the staff didi't even have the right gear.
Yea. I'd do exactly what the school district and the airline did. I wouldn't trust the gang that couldn't shoot straight at all.
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d-usa wrote: Yes, by every medical definition it is still hard to catch.
Edit: this is the first patient that spread the disease to someone else. And the people that got ill are only two (so far) out of a pretty big team of people that were elbows deep in this guys body fluids.
So its hard to catch IF you're wearing a NASA suit and treat every minute particule like deadly radiation. Yea...hard to catch...sure.
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Are people that unaware of all of the science we've collected about this virus over the last 40 years or is it just being purposely ignored?
I mean, do you guys have that much of a disconnect in your heads where you can't differentiate between the average Joe on the street in America and healthcare worker treating a patient? I don't think that is that difficult of a mental hurdle to understand the difference here.
Also, show me where anyone made the claim that Ebola would never come here? I sure as feth don't remember that happening.
Twenty seven Americans caught SARS in 2003, the government wasn't at fault; two Americans have caught Ebola in 2014 and we blame the Obama administration? The administration at the time didn't close airports, ban flights, and suspend visa to people during the SARS epidemic, so where was the outrage then?
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I'm sorry I couldn't hear you over the sound of the airline attempting to track 800 people who were on the Frontier Flight and flights after.
"In the United States, a nurse infected with Ebola at the same hospital may have had symptoms sooner than originally believed, authorities say, and an airline is notifying up to 800 passengers linked to flights she took between Dallas and Cleveland." http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/17/health/us-ebola/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
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Frazzled wrote: I'm sorry I couldn't hear you over the sound of the airline attempting to track 800 people who were on the Frontier Flight and flights after.
"In the United States, a nurse infected with Ebola at the same hospital may have had symptoms sooner than originally believed, authorities say, and an airline is notifying up to 800 passengers linked to flights she took between Dallas and Cleveland."
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/17/health/us-ebola/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
LOL let's not forget there is a timeline to beat to get them all and if they catch a code during that 21 day process it may involve those who are around them to
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Frazzled wrote: I'm sorry I couldn't hear you over the sound of the airline attempting to track 800 people who were on the Frontier Flight and flights after.
"In the United States, a nurse infected with Ebola at the same hospital may have had symptoms sooner than originally believed, authorities say, and an airline is notifying up to 800 passengers linked to flights she took between Dallas and Cleveland."
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/17/health/us-ebola/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
Okay.
You know how many people will catch Ebola from that flight?
NONE.
Thanks, Obama.
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You know how many people will catch Ebola from that flight?
NONE.
Willing to bet your life on that?
Thanks, Obama.
I'm sorry I couldn't hear you over the sound of the airline attempting to track 800 people who were on the Frontier Flight and flights after.
"In the United States, a nurse infected with Ebola at the same hospital may have had symptoms sooner than originally believed, authorities say, and an airline is notifying up to 800 passengers linked to flights she took between Dallas and Cleveland."
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/17/health/us-ebola/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
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I see caution is out the window. Anyone know about the status on the people that Duncan stayed with? Four more days to go
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Frazzled wrote: I'm sorry I couldn't hear you over the sound of the airline attempting to track 800 people who were on the Frontier Flight and flights after.
"In the United States, a nurse infected with Ebola at the same hospital may have had symptoms sooner than originally believed, authorities say, and an airline is notifying up to 800 passengers linked to flights she took between Dallas and Cleveland."
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/17/health/us-ebola/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
Okay.
You know how many people will catch Ebola from that flight?
NONE.
Willing to bet your life on that?
Thanks, Obama.
Your quoting game seems a bit off today, Frazz.
And yes, I would.
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actually I have been having the same problems that Fraz is having on multi quotes where I have to go back and "red" my replies
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Jihadin, Scorched Earth 791. Leader of the Pork Eating Crusader. Alpha
Thanks. Oh Noes its the first sign of E-Bola! Quick everyone run around and start touching strangers, especially cute strangers.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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