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Doesn't make much sense for a Lictor to be leading either. Salt is needed.

Yeah i dont buy it. Tac marines on the BA side? Ugh, barf. I havent ever used tacs with that army.

If there is a box campaign with BA and Tyranids, it makes me wonder about what GW may be swinging towards. Meaning, specific chapter starter set + Xenos scum

Dark Vengeance is DA/Chaos
Stormclaw is SW/Orkses

Anticipated BA release, w/Maybe'Nids, oooh, or maybe Genestealer cults?

And of course allows them the ability to release Marines with every release.

Not that I'm complaining. Just found a new way to continue to the marine love.

When they make an all "alien" vs. box set, then we'll see.

I'm guessing the next one will be Ultramarines v Necrons.

I'd be surprised if we got Terminators or tacticals.

In Stormclaw the pups got Krom, 10 Marines (arbitrarily split into 5 Grey Hunters and 5 Bloodclaws) and 5 Terminators.

All of the units came from the Wolves pre-existing dedicated kits.

Our current dedicated kits are Death Company and Sanguinary Guard.

Accordingly I would expect to see:
Exclusive character
5 Death Company
5 Death Company painted as regular Assault Marines (maybe Tacticals, as you can with those sprues, but unlikely).
5 Sanguinary Guard

Codex Blood Necrons ot Necron Angels fighting Tyranid menace. You heard it here first.

dubovac wrote:
You heard it here first.

And by 'here' you mean every other 'clever' person in this thread and the previous ones?

GW surely can't be that stupid as to make a BA and Tyranid that includes BA Tacticals. I don't know anyone that uses BA tacticals.

 PastelAvenger wrote:
GW surely can't be that stupid as to make a BA and Tyranid that includes BA Tacticals. I don't know anyone that uses BA tacticals.

I can see it, simply as a) Tacticals are still 60% of BA Battle Companies, so should be no less prevalent there than in other chapters, b) It allows them to open the set up to other Chapters easily enough, and c) The SW set had 4 Sprues and 15 Marines, so I can see Tactical Squad (2) and Death Company (2) making up the BA half of the box.

And for the record, I almost always have a Tactical Squad when I play BA.

I also use BA tac marines.

So the BA character sounds like a Captain. Interesting...I wonder what the weapon load-out will be. I hope he comes with a Jump Pack and isn't foot slogging.

D

I also use blood angel tactical squads. .o/ Stick 'em in a fast Rhino, good times. Jump pack-less assault squads in Rhinos are also good, and you could easily do those with the tactical squad sprues and the DC bits.

 Paradigm wrote:


And for the record, I almost always have a Tactical Squad when I play BA.

Same here. I would imagine most of us that played BA prior to the WD codex do so. We are a codex chapter after all.

 Crimson Devil wrote:

 Paradigm wrote:


And for the record, I almost always have a Tactical Squad when I play BA.

Same here. I would imagine most of us that played BA prior to the WD codex do so. We are a codex chapter after all.

100% on the jump infantry as troops thing. Ive never used BA tac squads, and barely use them with my crimson fists, lol.

I love how Lords of War has already debunked the box contents rumor.

 th3maninblak wrote:
Yeah i dont buy it. Tac marines on the BA side? Ugh, barf. I havent ever used tacs with that army.

I use them all the time


..painted black with lots of Heraldry in a Drop Pod and for 20 points per model.
Only decent way to paint BA Tacticals.

Kangodo wrote:

 th3maninblak wrote:
Yeah i dont buy it. Tac marines on the BA side? Ugh, barf. I havent ever used tacs with that army.

I use them all the time


..painted black with lots of Heraldry in a Drop Pod and for 20 points per model.
Only decent way to paint BA Tacticals.

I use them too.

Might be becuase I started building my Blood Angels back in 2nd Edition, but I use Blood Angel Tactical Squads.

Also, I just discovered this gem

 adamsouza wrote:
Might be becuase I started building my Blood Angels back in 2nd Edition, but I use Blood Angel Tactical Squads.

Also, I just discovered this gem

Man dont i wish. I always liked the Goff Rockas...

Yes People do use Tac squads < included Some of us where tired of shelling out big $$ for a 5 man box.

huh ... was not even aware that the BA had access to tactical squads ... isn't that an ultramarine thing ... we use JP or hoof it when we go cray cray (JP too expensive for the cray cray guys) ... learn something new everyday.

It will be very interesting to see what they do with the Assault Squad here.

Every 7th book with a troop which is normally in another slot had that option removed as it is "redundant" due to Unbound.

This will be the first example of it where it wasn't unlocked by a character though.

That's why they're probably safe in the troops slot.

Sanguinary Guard becoming troops with Dante, though, is definitely going bye-bye.

 warboss wrote:
I didn't pick up the stormclaw box but wasn't there a points discrepancy in that as well between the orks and space wolves?

There always is.

I can't remember a single boxed set where the model distribution resulted in evenly matched forces. The Space Marines almost always come out ahead.

There are two likely reasons for this:

1) The model counts are fairly similar, but Space Marines are pricier per model than other faction troops.

2) The Space Marines are the feature army. And I don't mean this in the "Wah wah Space Marines get too much attention!" way. I mean, that Space Marines sell more than other models, so it is in GW's best interests to push new players towards them. Which is good for their business objectives, of course, even if somewhat disappointing to the player base.



Then again, it's also important to note that Games Workshop considers those to be "starter sets". They probably don't want to sell a lot of them, because the margins are better if they just sell those models individually, and then don't have to print the books, include templates, dice, etc. AoBR sold really well, but every time somebody just bought it to get the discount on the models, GW was literally wasting the money on the rulebooks and templates that were being discarded.

 sockwithaticket wrote:
That's why they're probably safe in the troops slot.

Sanguinary Guard becoming troops with Dante, though, is definitely going bye-bye.

and come back as the Sanguinary Guard Detachment !! (6 Elite, 1 troop)

Losing assault marines as troops would be really upsetting, particularly since thats what drew me to the army in the first place. That is, unless we have some kind of alternate force org that lets us take large numbers of assault marines.

 adamsouza wrote:

 sockwithaticket wrote:
That's why they're probably safe in the troops slot.

Sanguinary Guard becoming troops with Dante, though, is definitely going bye-bye.

and come back as the Sanguinary Guard Detachment !! (6 Elite, 1 troop)

With some bizarre demand that 2 of the units have 3 axes and 2 Infernus Pistols, 1 unit has a fist and a banner , 1 unit has all swords and plasma pistols and the others are yours to do with as you see fit.

In a dataslate.

For £15.

Blood Angels: Sons of Sanguinis Codex supplement $49.50

That's where they're going to stick the replacement for Astorath's removal of the Death Company's 0-1 limit.

 th3maninblak wrote:
Losing assault marines as troops would be really upsetting, particularly since thats what drew me to the army in the first place. That is, unless we have some kind of alternate force org that lets us take large numbers of assault marines.

Spamming Assault Marines is the shtick of the Blood Angels. Taking that away from them would fundamentally change the army as well as homogenize the different Space Marine armies. That is just one step closer to folding the different special chapters into the basic Space Marines codex. Also, since a lot of the Blood Angels stuff is reorganized into Fast Attack (Vanguards and Baal Predators, namely), it could become and even more crowded slot.

Do you guys think BA will get access to the Storm Talon? It is only fair since C:SM stole the Storm Raven.

I really hope they produce some plastic upgrade sprues a la DA and Black Templars for the Blood Angels. There needs to be a place to get more of the BA weapons like Infernus Pistols and Hand Flamers than just the Death Company box. Wishful thinking, yes, but it would be pretty awesome. That way they can use the preexisting kits like Tactical Marines or Assault Marines.

 Eldarain wrote:
It will be very interesting to see what they do with the Assault Squad here.

Every 7th book with a troop which is normally in another slot had that option removed as it is "redundant" due to Unbound.

This will be the first example of it where it wasn't unlocked by a character though.

It's completely different.
What is going to change are stuff like Elites that can become Troops.
Or Heavy Support that becomes Elites if you take model X.

 th3maninblak wrote:
Yeah i dont buy it. Tac marines on the BA side? Ugh, barf. I havent ever used tacs with that army.

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Same for me.
I'm not using Tacticals in my BA army.
Let's see how strong the DoA army will become.