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BA weapons like Infernus Pistols

Talking to stealing things - I seem to recall them being them Sororitas / Ordo Hereticus weapons first...............

GW seem to be going two ways with "special" Chapters - either making lots and lots of "themed" units, weapons, vehicles and equipment or folding them into the main Codex with a few rules.
I am honestly not sure which is better - whilst it was sad to see the Black Templars relegated to just another Chapter - they at least escaped the Santa Logan and Bloody Blood guns ideas.......

They don't seem interested in making Chapter specific Supplements (for some reason single Companies were tried) - personally a Supplement or Codex on Chapter "families" would have been more interesting to me?

So we could have Blood Angels and their Successors rather than just BA which would have been more palatable (to me at least) in terms of various Chapters having their own unique units etc rather than the recent slapping together dubious themes. Same with Imperial Fists and a few others............... I have not read the Dark Angels one so can't comment.
Almost every Astartes Chapter has unique elements, especially non Codex ones - look at all the interesting things in the Forge World books - several First Founding Chapters with equally non Codex formations and operational styles (White Scars, Salamanders)

 Mr Morden wrote:

BA weapons like Infernus Pistols

Talking to stealing things - I seem to recall them being them Sororitas / Ordo Hereticus weapons first...............

Huh, learned something new today.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

BA weapons like Infernus Pistols

Talking to stealing things - I seem to recall them being them Sororitas / Ordo Hereticus weapons first...............

Huh, learned something new today.

I thought Dante had one first?

Zwan1One wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

BA weapons like Infernus Pistols

Talking to stealing things - I seem to recall them being them Sororitas / Ordo Hereticus weapons first...............

Huh, learned something new today.

I thought Dante had one first?

Dante had one first. It was called an Inferno Pistol back then.

The second edition Angels of Death codex (1996) came before SIsters of Battle (1997), and back then Sisters of Battle didn't have them.

In case your wondering how I know, I have both codexes in front of me, while writing this.

 adamsouza wrote:

Zwan1One wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

BA weapons like Infernus Pistols

Talking to stealing things - I seem to recall them being them Sororitas / Ordo Hereticus weapons first...............

Huh, learned something new today.

I thought Dante had one first?

Dante had one first. It was called an Inferno Pistol back then.

The second edition Angels of Death codex (1996) came before SIsters of Battle (1997), and back then Sisters of Battle didn't have them.

In case your wondering how I know, I have both codexes in front of me, while writing this.

Ah my mistake - just went and looked myself over lunch

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 th3maninblak wrote:
Losing assault marines as troops would be really upsetting, particularly since thats what drew me to the army in the first place. That is, unless we have some kind of alternate force org that lets us take large numbers of assault marines.

Spamming Assault Marines is the shtick of the Blood Angels. Taking that away from them would fundamentally change the army as well as homogenize the different Space Marine armies.

The funny part is that is what people insist is also the shtick of Raven Guard...

 Kanluwen wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 th3maninblak wrote:
Losing assault marines as troops would be really upsetting, particularly since thats what drew me to the army in the first place. That is, unless we have some kind of alternate force org that lets us take large numbers of assault marines.

Spamming Assault Marines is the shtick of the Blood Angels. Taking that away from them would fundamentally change the army as well as homogenize the different Space Marine armies.

The funny part is that is what people insist is also the shtick of Raven Guard...

And the Night Lords...

I'm a relatively new 40k player, who started with Blood Angels in February, and I only rarely use BA Tactical Marines. Lately, I've just been playing large numbers of Assault Marines in Assault Cannon and/or Las/Plas Razorbacks. Our Tactical Marines just seem too damned expensive for what they can do.

Nine times out of ten, my Tactical Marines only get dragged off the shelf in order to harass my buddy's Tau gunline via Drop Pods.

That being said, I could see this set including some Tactical Marines, simply because it would be a good opportunity to slowly begin rolling out new BA units for the new Codex release. My, highly uneducated, guess would be that we'll see a 5 man Tactical Marine squad, and maybe a dual use Assault Marine/Death Company Squad, along with some of the rumored BA specific Terminators.

Five-man tactical squad won't happen unless they have a load of the nasty old ones to get rid of - the new sculpts aren't arranged on the sprue in a manner that facilitates splitting off 5 models easily. Stormclaw was aging stuff packed in with a new single-pose character, so expect the same. Rough equivalent cost would be, for example, a Death Company squad, an Assault squad, and a Terminator Assault squad. In fact, since both Death Company and Assault squads are troops, that'd be a legal army so that's probably roughly what we'll get.

I can't imagine there would be any new units (characters aside) in this set, as it's far from the GW MO to let you have the new shiny in a bundle with impressive savings when they can charge full price for it a week later!

I'm hoping DC make the set, just so eBay will be flooded with cheap ones!

Anyone else hoping we can have an invisible Death CompanyStar in the new codex...

Eldercaveman wrote:
Anyone else hoping we can have an invisible Death CompanyStar in the new codex...

Technically we can have that now. Saw some lists floating around with a big mob of death co with tiggy+BA librarian. Essentially 7 rolls on telepathy to get invisibility.

Is it only the 30th of October? I have played Blood Angels since 1st ed so whoever said this time would drag by knew what they were saying. It's worse than being a kid waiting for Christmas!

 Kelly502 wrote:
Is it only the 30th of October? I have played Blood Angels since 1st ed so whoever said this time would drag by knew what they were saying. It's worse than being a kid waiting for Christmas!

It really is. After all the false rumors, i really hope all this is right, but this next month is gonna drag by so slow.

Edit: more rumors on boxed set contents found in the link below. If these are true, ill be a happy camper.

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2014/10/40k-blood-angels-campaign-boxed-set_30.html?m=1

Alledged content of box set

BoLS wrote:
Blood Angels
5 death company
10 assault marines
1 furiouso dreadnaught
1 New Exclusive captain w jump pack

Tyranids
3 warriors
20 gaunts
3 lictors (editor's note: this makes no sense, perhaps Hive Guard?)
1 NEW Exclusive Prime

Campaign is slated to kick off the week after Tyranids

I'm assuming it's 3 Tyranid Warriors and not Lictors

Plastic.. Lictors maybe?!

I can see getting the Dreadnaught instead of Terminators, since there is not a Blood Angels themed Terminator set, but Stormclaw only gave 10 power armored marines.

Lictors are finecrap, so I can't see including them, let alone 3 of them.

Aw man, I hope there is a Furioso dread in the box...I only have one and am ready for another.

I hope there's some useful formations in the box.

D

Wasn't that something we guessed a couple of pages ago?
With the current amount of different rumours I decided to believe nothing that is posted to BoLS or Natfka.
Especially since their mainsource seems to be our speculating.

 th3maninblak wrote:

Eldercaveman wrote:
Anyone else hoping we can have an invisible Death CompanyStar in the new codex...

Technically we can have that now. Saw some lists floating around with a big mob of death co with tiggy+BA librarian. Essentially 7 rolls on telepathy to get invisibility.

Indeed. There's a load of combos possible with DC (Shrike for Infiltrate and Stealth for one), but no one ever runs it as JP DC are expensive, and don't score.

Dante
Librarian w/ JP, ML2
Chaplain w/ JP
Allied Shrike
20x DC w/ JP, Fistx2, Axex2

Infiltrate, Stealth, Hit and Run, Liturgies and a chance of Invis on 20 Jump nutters. Only 1440pts on one unit

Adding shrike to death company? That there is the sign of a person I never want to play. No justification for that in the fluff, just pure waac shenanigans.

I have to say, those contents look a little heavy on the BA side, 6 Marine sprues and a Dreadis way more than Stormclaw had, so unless the price is much higher, I doubt it.

 monkeypuzzle wrote:
Adding shrike to death company? That there is the sign of a person I never want to play. No justification for that in the fluff, just pure waac shenanigans.

Some people have fun by thinking up awesome and powerful combos, or having highly competitive and cut throat games. Those same people might call you a fluffly bunny snd wipe the floor with you for a gamestore full of people to see.

My point is, your way of playing the game is no more "right" than anyone elses.

 th3maninblak wrote:

 monkeypuzzle wrote:
Adding shrike to death company? That there is the sign of a person I never want to play. No justification for that in the fluff, just pure waac shenanigans.

Some people have fun by thinking up awesome and powerful combos, or having highly competitive and cut throat games. Those same people might call you a fluffly bunny snd wipe the floor with you for a gamestore full of people to see.

My point is, your way of playing the game is no more "right" than anyone elses.

If only I could exalt this multiple times.

 Zande4 wrote:

 th3maninblak wrote:

 monkeypuzzle wrote:
Adding shrike to death company? That there is the sign of a person I never want to play. No justification for that in the fluff, just pure waac shenanigans.

Some people have fun by thinking up awesome and powerful combos, or having highly competitive and cut throat games. Those same people might call you a fluffly bunny snd wipe the floor with you for a gamestore full of people to see.

My point is, your way of playing the game is no more "right" than anyone elses.

If only I could exalt this multiple times.

Why? It's just horrific macho bs posturing delivered as a sulk because someone said *their* preference isn't to play against fluffless waac builds. Why should that be celebrated? It's unpleasant and it's off-topic.

 Bull0 wrote:
and it's off-topic.

feel free to take it to the appropriate board for further discussion though.

 monkeypuzzle wrote:
Adding shrike to death company? That there is the sign of a person I never want to play. No justification for that in the fluff, just pure waac shenanigans.

Apolgies for for this, but I'd like to defend my post.

I play to have fun, in amongst other like minded people who also play to have fun. Normally with beer and snacks.

There is no wrongfun in 40k

Going to need pictorial evidence to believe that list of contents. Plus it's from BoLS. The same BoLS that reported a joke on here as a legit rumour...

In all fairness to BOLS.. They have no context filtering so it's understandable how bad they report things.

 Crimson Devil wrote:

 Paradigm wrote:


And for the record, I almost always have a Tactical Squad when I play BA.

Same here. I would imagine most of us that played BA prior to the WD codex do so. We are a codex chapter after all.

Me too. TAC + Rhino = good times.

The boxed set with be either BA/DE or BA/NEC.


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 Uriels_Flame wrote:
And of course allows them the ability to release Marines with every release.

Not that I'm complaining. Just found a new way to continue to the marine love.

When they make an all "alien" vs. box set, then we'll see.

I'm guessing the next one will be Ultramarines v Necrons.

Nope. Dual boxed sets are for armies that are currently coming out. SW/Orks was the last one, right between the two releases. You won't see UM until all codex are done.