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 mk2 wrote:
So are TOs going to force people to rip up their painted models and place them on new bases?

GW nukes the tournament players once again with total chaos.

That's not a real concern.. TO's don't make people rebase their armies as it's still legal to use bases the models *used* to come with.

 mk2 wrote:
So are TOs going to force people to rip up their painted models and place them on new bases?

GW nukes the tournament players once again with total chaos.

What tournaments are GW running that they could make that request in?

Bases have changed many times, the streets have never been filled with wailing gamers tearing their models apart. As people have said many times, GW have always grandfathered in previous base sizes.

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 Kirasu wrote:

 mk2 wrote:
So are TOs going to force people to rip up their painted models and place them on new bases?

GW nukes the tournament players once again with total chaos.

That's not a real concern.. TO's don't make people rebase their armies as it's still legal to use bases the models *used* to come with.

To be fair, some tournaments did require terminators to be rebased, because a lot of players had issues with the different base size in that specific case, because of the difference it made to Deep Strike formations largely.

That's about the only time I can think of that it's been at all commonly done, though. In most other cases, tournies are fine with whatever bases are on the figures, so long as they are appropriate.

Preorders for the box set are up on eBay from a reputable seller. At a discount too. Don't know how long it will be there so if you decided you were going to get it might want to check it out

If it's discount games store, I've ordered from them once and received no product or reply. Ended up reporting to ebay for refund. Just warning everybody.

 Kaiserbudheim wrote:
Not sure about that Captain mini. I mean, it's not bad but as a BA Captain I imagined the armor being gold and super ornate. Dante's armor is gold. Tycho's armor is gold. Old RT captain figs have been painted up with gold. So why no gold for this guy?

That's a good point, although there's nothing stopping you painting his armour gold.

Perhaps incarnation is mid-battle and the red armour is actually gold armour covered in Nid blood?

D

This picture has made me appreciate the Captain a bit more, still from other shots there is not much detail on his cloak:

That Broodlord is soooo big.

I must have it!

Captain with long blonde hair Sanguinius style on termy armor would have been spectacular. I like him although cape could´ve been more detailed. I wish he had a storm shield instead of the storm bolter.

That image makes the Captain's pose look a little less goofy. I still don't think I will ever field him since he is a giant points sink due to that "Give the enemy a free victory point" thunder hammer. The only saving grace for him is if he somehow buffs Tactical Terminators into non-suckitude. I might see if I can find a good Space Wolf head with long hair for him.

Okay at 75 notes that's my Xmas/birthday present from Mrs Souleater sorted.

I have been toying with the idea of restarting Blood Angels with the collected SM from various starter boxes for some time now. I can use all these bits to bling out the vanilla stuff. The captain is nothing special but meh.

could do with a mini rule book.

Mainly, though, the Nids are good. The fex can be magnetized for flexibilty (oh, who am i trying to kid, i just buy more Fexes! ). I don't need any more warriors but have none of the new ones.

Since i love stealers i don't mind more of them...and that Broodlord is awesome.

If things weren't so tight i would buy two of these. Solid deal for me.

I hope GW contines this trend. Necron vs Sisters, Xenos vs Guard, etc

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
That image makes the Captain's pose look a little less goofy. I still don't think I will ever field him since he is a giant points sink due to that "Give the enemy a free victory point" thunder hammer. The only saving grace for him is if he somehow buffs Tactical Terminators into non-suckitude. I might see if I can find a good Space Wolf head with long hair for him.

We dont know anything about his rules yet. He could be super cost effective, or have a thunder hammer that strikes at initiative. Or have a sick warlord trait.

Ok, I too have to agree the Captain looks better in that picture but the main attraction is still that Broodlord. I mean, damn, just look at that monster, it's a thing of beauty!

 th3maninblak wrote:
We dont know anything about his rules yet. He could be super cost effective, or have a thunder hammer that strikes at initiative. Or have a sick warlord trait.

Maybe he has the Fear special rule.

lol H.B.M.C.

"And they shall know more fear"

Oh god not more fear...

So I was thinking about those bases that are now actually priced. I highly doubt that GW will try to enforce some sort of policy that requires one to change out the bases for some models. There are a few upshots to the bigger bases. Especially in the case of jump pack Space Marines, it gives them a wider base so they don't tip over. Also, in terms of modeling, a bigger base means more room to make a nice scenic base. The downside, especially in the case of Blood Angels and their tendency to deep strike jump infantry (at least, they are supposed to, though it has fallen WAY out of favor) is that it makes the squad's footprint about half an inch or so bigger in diameter (I would have to do the math on that), it makes them prone to mishaps more.

If you run DC without packs, is there a +/- to having a bigger base? I am having trouble thinking of one.

Going by the Space Wolves and Dark Angels I'd say the Blood Angels have a good shot at a new flyer but the fact that the Stormraven comes with plastic Blood Angels heraldry and the fact that the Grey Knights are Space Marines too and didn't get their own unique flyer... I'm completely torn.

As H.B.M.C pointed out earlier, trying to find a consistent pattern in Games Workshop is folly.

The Thunder Hammer on the Captain is a relic called "The Hammer of Baal" which suggests it will probably have special rules which may explain the lack of Storm Shield.

He does come with an Iron Halo but that's obviously nowhere near as good as a Storm Shield.

In terms of base size it allows DC to be in base to base contact with more models but that goes both ways, positive and negative.

I am hoping for a new flyer being the wings they are referencing, but that is unlikely. Still, never know. As long as it isn't gak like the DA flyers, I am up for something new. Heck, even just letting them use the Stormtalon would be good for me.

I would field this Captain in a minute if his hammer struck at faster than I1. It is probably just Mastercrafted. The Iron Halo is 4+ so it isn't THAT bad compared to a Storm Shield (What? 18some%). Obviously not a replacement, but better than nothing. I suppose we will have to wait until the leaks come out for the rules from the box.

Facebook is work blocked so can't cut and paste, but Lords of wargaming are reporting on there feed that ALL models that are on 25mm bases are switching to the 32mm bases in future.
And we know what there rumour accuracy is like...

 manrogue wrote:
Facebook is work blocked so can't cut and paste, but Lords of wargaming are reporting on there feed that ALL models that are on 25mm bases are switching to the 32mm bases in future.
And we know what there rumour accuracy is like...

Lords of Wargaming's record is stellar, but this is kinda already wrong. The Genestealers in the Shield of Baal box are on what looks like old 25mm bases, whereas the Death Company isn't. If everything were to switch, they'd have done the Genestealers in the box as well, no?

 manrogue wrote:
Facebook is work blocked so can't cut and paste, but Lords of wargaming are reporting on there feed that ALL models that are on 25mm bases are switching to the 32mm bases in future.
And we know what there rumour accuracy is like...

That sounds like a terrible idea. Unless they're finally going to make Space Marines truescale. In which case, where are my truescale Chaos Space Marines?

Funnily enough was thinking that myself, but could just be with new stuff going forward.

Will see when the new Blood Angels stuff is out, would make sense to do it with new releases going forward as otherwise they would have to open every box and switch the bases.


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Via Lords of War Gaming

So for those of you that pay attention to the release list for upcoming product you may have noticed that 32mm bases are on the list for next week.
If you are wondering what they were for take a good hard look at the Death company in the picture and compare to the genestealers and behold the future!
Get ready to get your (re)base on. To reiterate ALL MODELS on 25mm bases will eventually transition to the new 32mm bases.

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 manrogue wrote:
Facebook is work blocked so can't cut and paste, but Lords of wargaming are reporting on there feed that ALL models that are on 25mm bases are switching to the 32mm bases in future.
And we know what there rumour accuracy is like...

As long as I'm not forced to rebase all my current models, I'm so for that change. Bigger base = more space for cool stuff.

 TheDraconicLord wrote:


As long as I'm not forced to rebase all my current models, I'm so for that change. Bigger base = more space for cool stuff.

True.

Funny enough, I would've thought that Genestealers would've made better candidates for larger bases. They are far less balanced (as in physically, as models) and get tangled up easily with all their claws, when you push them into a tight base-to-base cc... Marines, being more "vertical", don't have that problem as much, even with Jump Packs.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
So I was thinking about those bases that are now actually priced. I highly doubt that GW will try to enforce some sort of policy that requires one to change out the bases for some models. There are a few upshots to the bigger bases. Especially in the case of jump pack Space Marines, it gives them a wider base so they don't tip over. Also, in terms of modeling, a bigger base means more room to make a nice scenic base. The downside, especially in the case of Blood Angels and their tendency to deep strike jump infantry (at least, they are supposed to, though it has fallen WAY out of favor) is that it makes the squad's footprint about half an inch or so bigger in diameter (I would have to do the math on that), it makes them prone to mishaps more.

If you run DC without packs, is there a +/- to having a bigger base? I am having trouble thinking of one.

less models hit by blasts, harder to fit in terrain.

Well, they can forget it. 25mms are fine, don't fix what ain't broke.

All models... hmm...