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 angelofvengeance wrote:

 Anpu42 wrote:

 Desubot wrote:
Oh joy BA gets Gravs?

I wonder what the DA players will say

We have Plasma Terminators

And plasma bikers (Black Knights) and plasma land speeders and plasma jetbike.
Also have stasis grenades and bombs.

And the grimdark weaponized religion launcher speeder.

 DarthOvious wrote:
Oh man I am going to make some triple flamer tactical squads.

Triple?
How about double handflamers.

Just hope that the Sergeant weapon options don't restrict you from picking up two pistols. I know the 5 Vanguard Vets with double hand flamers remains tempting to me.

 valkyriePROfail wrote:
Torso and legs are practically death company bits.

With the CAD processes they use now, I bet those are the exact same as the DC bits. In fact, there's probably very little new sculpting in the kit. The other bits would have been made for the regular tactical squad.

Why is that tempting? They can't fire both pistols in a single Shooting Phase unless there's a rule I'm missing.

 SharkoutofWata wrote:
Why is that tempting? They can't fire both pistols in a single Shooting Phase unless there's a rule I'm missing.

There is a rule you're missing. It's called 'gunslinger'.

 Crimson wrote:

 SharkoutofWata wrote:
Why is that tempting? They can't fire both pistols in a single Shooting Phase unless there's a rule I'm missing.

There is a rule you're missing. It's called 'gunslinger'.

Yep was in 6th ed too One of the reasons Seraphim are good

 Crimson wrote:

 SharkoutofWata wrote:
Why is that tempting? They can't fire both pistols in a single Shooting Phase unless there's a rule I'm missing.

There is a rule you're missing. It's called 'gunslinger'.

I still remember the night I noticed the gunslinger rule lying buried in the middle of the rulebook; I immediately started throwing double pistols on every single thing that could take them. A few hours later, Tactical Squad Big Texas was born.

This sounds interesting but I can't find it. What section is it in? Digital copy of the rulebook so a page number wouldn't help...

 SharkoutofWata wrote:
This sounds interesting but I can't find it. What section is it in? Digital copy of the rulebook so a page number wouldn't help...

Then just do a keyword search for "gunslinger."

Forgot I was using my PDF conversion (better bookmarks). The hidden gems of 40k... This definitely makes things more interesting.

 Arschbombe wrote:

 valkyriePROfail wrote:
Torso and legs are practically death company bits.

With the CAD processes they use now, I bet those are the exact same as the DC bits. In fact, there's probably very little new sculpting in the kit. The other bits would have been made for the regular tactical squad.

Its not. You can see difference`s in the design. There is no saltires in the tac squad while there in the death company box etc

 Arschbombe wrote:

 valkyriePROfail wrote:
Torso and legs are practically death company bits.

With the CAD processes they use now, I bet those are the exact same as the DC bits. In fact, there's probably very little new sculpting in the kit. The other bits would have been made for the regular tactical squad.

Yep, most of what I've seen is already in my bitz box. The more I see of this release the less interested I am.

 tomjoad wrote:

 SharkoutofWata wrote:
This sounds interesting but I can't find it. What section is it in? Digital copy of the rulebook so a page number wouldn't help...

Then just do a keyword search for "gunslinger."

I have just now rushed to grab my rulebook and look for "gunslinger"

I am so freakin' happy right now

Ive been using dual hand flamers on my assault marine sgt for 2 editions now. The gunlinger special rule is my favorite rule in the game. Its awesomely strong and awesomely thematic all at the same time.

 TheDraconicLord wrote:

 tomjoad wrote:

 SharkoutofWata wrote:
This sounds interesting but I can't find it. What section is it in? Digital copy of the rulebook so a page number wouldn't help...

Then just do a keyword search for "gunslinger."

I have just now rushed to grab my rulebook and look for "gunslinger"

I am so freakin' happy right now

Soon, you too can have an army of space cowboys!

But jumping back to the topic at hand; it really does look like us BA guys are about to get an amazing modeling boost with this new Tactical box. I actually kind of feel bad for the regular SM players who don't get as many sweet bits in their boxes.

I seriously don't give a crap... My Oracles of Change CSM's are getting a triple Flamer squad! Heavy Flamer, Flamer, Combi-flamer... hey, Tzeentch is all about (warp)flames - don't deny me my pyromania fun!

Besides, Chaos Marines should have been the 'first' marines to get the man-portable heavy flamer back, especially considering we haven't had a single new weapon upgrade option since 3rd edition, while loyalist scum have now received gakloads of new toys...

CSM's don't get infantry weapon upgrades because they get flying turkeys that ruin the game so badly it is forced to rush through a new edition.

Kangodo wrote:

 DarthOvious wrote:
Oh man I am going to make some triple flamer tactical squads.

Triple?
How about double handflamers.

If I can do it, I will. I only said triple because it looks obvious that we'll be able to do hand flamer, flamer and heavy flamer. Hopefully we'll get the two hand flamer option for the sergeant too.

Someone on natfka busted out a magnifying glass and saw the cost of death masks. Only 1 point per model. Im guessing they just cause fear now.

[Stop trying to hijack the thread with CSM whining. This is not a CSM thread.

 th3maninblak wrote:
Someone on natfka busted out a magnifying glass and saw the cost of death masks. Only 1 point per model. Im guessing they just cause fear now.

What did they cost before?

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 th3maninblak wrote:
Someone on natfka busted out a magnifying glass and saw the cost of death masks. Only 1 point per model. Im guessing they just cause fear now.

What did they cost before?

5 per model.

If the Libby and termies are new I wonder if he will be part of the termie box aka the big mek in the MANz box?

 Hanskrampf wrote:

 Kelly502 wrote:
When is the pre-order generally up on the web, like midnight tonight or Friday? Anyone know?

Friday, 8 PM CET

Thanks man. Now I need to figure out what time that is in Jakarta.

Cut the (CSM) chatter Red (X), stay on topic

 valkyriePROfail wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 th3maninblak wrote:
Someone on natfka busted out a magnifying glass and saw the cost of death masks. Only 1 point per model. Im guessing they just cause fear now.

What did they cost before?

5 per model.

Hot damn, an 80% point reduction!

Whatever the big box is, I will probably pick it up if the price is right.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 valkyriePROfail wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 th3maninblak wrote:
Someone on natfka busted out a magnifying glass and saw the cost of death masks. Only 1 point per model. Im guessing they just cause fear now.

What did they cost before?

5 per model.

Hot damn, an 80% point reduction!


Whatever the big box is, I will probably pick it up if the price is right.

Even at 1 ppm the usefulness of death masks will entirely depend on what they do. Right now they have a weird version of super fear that only works when the unit charges but ignores ATSKNF and fearless. If they change it to just fear, itll be pretty useless.

I saw a picture on 4Chan of what appeared to be new Blood Angel Terminators. They appeared to be pretty blinged out, but it was in a big battle scene and they could have just as easily been repurposed Space Hulk Termies.

Still, they looked good from what I could see.

I'm really curious to see if that Terminator Librarian is a plastic clamshell...because I might have to nab one if so for my Deathwing.