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Dante also used to have Hit and Run
But I agree, Dante looks freaking sweet.

Any word on how Corbulo's doin'?

 Colpicklejar wrote:
Any word on how Corbulo's doin'?

WS boost and FNP like Priests, but in a 6" bubble. Looks like he lost his reroll and 2+ FNP.

I'd love to see Seth and Dante's pages.

Well, I must say that this new codex has been full of surprises for me - and no doubt for all of BA players - and I've already been through the stages of disbelief, anger, despair, reluctant acceptance and moving on with this update as the information has been rolling in.

The cut on troops section and overall moving of units around the FOC kind of disheartens me like many others (no more dedicated LRs, wonder what I'm going to do with all those five I own... ). But this new codex will definitely blow some fresh air to the way I play my noble Sons of Sanguinius. I won't be able to roll out my mechanised nor jump pack army like I used to, but the drop in points and the rest of the changes will more than make up for what was lost. I really dig the new psychic discipline and relics, and the BA specific FOC is a blast (to the past)! I really missed the good old FC. In the end, I am more than happy to have this update, more so when the rest of the stuff comes in.

But one question has arisen to mind while browsing this thread, and seeing the fresh out LOW chapter masters... Does Gabriel Seth still have his S8 AP-, Rending chainsword of massacre?
With those new rules he received, he would be awfully fun to run with some squad juiced with a chaplain. Gotta get those !

As a side note I can already hear the cheering of the croud in my local gaming group when I announce the end of the age of blendernoughts and the demon prince Mephiston that caused them so much desperation. No more mulching two thirds of the opposing tyranid army by yourself Mr. Lord of Death.

It sounds good over all though I am sick to death of hearing how good dante is now. Not everyone wants to take dante

Motograter wrote:
It sounds good over all though I am sick to death of hearing how good dante is now. Not everyone wants to take dante

Dante could be horrendous if he gains the right blessings then on top... Invisibility, iron arm, the sanguine blessing that boosts I & A.

Absolute slayer.


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Oh yeah, warp speed as well.

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
Dante could be horrendous if he gains the right blessings then on top... Invisibility, iron arm, the sanguine blessing that boosts I & A.

Absolute slayer.


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Oh yeah, warp speed as well.

Erm...Dante is not a psyker. Someone could throw invis or quickening on him sure, but he can't iron arm or warp speed himself.

What is the "servomadura" on the second entry? The rest looks like it should be for a chaplain but at least in english that sounds like something a techmarine would get.

I forget about iron arm and warp speed, never managed to get them to use them... Ignore that.

Motograter wrote:
It sounds good over all though I am sick to death of hearing how good dante is now. Not everyone wants to take dante

Which reminds me: there probably isn't a generic Chapter Master option, right?

Characters are looking solid, depending on points.

 Crimson wrote:

Motograter wrote:
It sounds good over all though I am sick to death of hearing how good dante is now. Not everyone wants to take dante

Which reminds me: there probably isn't a generic Chapter Master option, right?

I'd be shocked if there was. I'd expect captain only, as it was last time for BA.

People may be interested...

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/626498.page#7419071

First, Tycho may be an old model, but he's aged very well IMO.

From Twinner's thread:

No specific points values or images. It is against the rules, motyak

Baal no longer have scout :(
They can take 2 special weapons still, but they don't have RB as transports. TO get a RB for them you would have to use a Fast attack spot.

 Deadshot wrote:

Vendablefall wrote:

 Bla_Ze wrote:
Who cares about AM being tropps? I have played since 2E and i certainly dont...
What troubles me is what happens with the honour guard

totally agree, ive also played since 2nd andam not worried about the ASM slot swap, i feel the change taking the BA back to bemore like i have them pictured in my head, we can still take 7 squads of jumpers as others have stated..

can no one think of the honor guard!!!! my beautiful gold paint jobs are getting stripped and painted black :-(

Many have only played since 5th or 3rd, and so actually DO care. Plus, not many actually care about Honour Guard, because Command Squads are better with multiple special weapons, and Sanguinary are better jumpers and guards with their 2+ save and power weapons all around.

You say "we can still take 7 Jumper Squads"... C:SM can take 6. Not exactly a major leg up in that department, especially as one such unit is Honour Guard that are pretty poor points sinks in comparison to vehicles or other JP units.

Command squads are better? Holy Sanguinius... you do know how Honour/command squads work with C:SM right?
BA honour squads can take a mix of EVERYTHING, and im pretty sure the only thing special SM honour squads can take is a relic blade.. And lets not even talk about command squads, they can take no special weapons at all???

 troa wrote:

I'd be shocked if there was. I'd expect captain only, as it was last time for BA.

Well, it's kinda annoying for people who play a successor chapter (other than Flesh Tearers.) Though it is the same problem with Dark Angels.

Dang. No close combat weapons on tycho besides digital weapons huh....... That blows.

 KillaCam wrote:
Dang. No close combat weapons on tycho besides digital weapons huh....... That blows.

I think Tycho's a bit more of a shooty character anyways. No biggy IMO.

Death company are 100pts starting for 5, can get a further 10 models, they can't get a sergeant like squad raphene.

They can't get special weapons though, which I was hoping.... JP relentless grav guns would of been nice.

 Bla_Ze wrote:

 Deadshot wrote:

Vendablefall wrote:

 Bla_Ze wrote:
Who cares about AM being tropps? I have played since 2E and i certainly dont...
What troubles me is what happens with the honour guard

totally agree, ive also played since 2nd andam not worried about the ASM slot swap, i feel the change taking the BA back to bemore like i have them pictured in my head, we can still take 7 squads of jumpers as others have stated..

can no one think of the honor guard!!!! my beautiful gold paint jobs are getting stripped and painted black :-(

Many have only played since 5th or 3rd, and so actually DO care. Plus, not many actually care about Honour Guard, because Command Squads are better with multiple special weapons, and Sanguinary are better jumpers and guards with their 2+ save and power weapons all around.

You say "we can still take 7 Jumper Squads"... C:SM can take 6. Not exactly a major leg up in that department, especially as one such unit is Honour Guard that are pretty poor points sinks in comparison to vehicles or other JP units.

Command squads are better? Holy Sanguinius... you do know how Honour/command squads work with C:SM right?
BA honour squads can take a mix of EVERYTHING, and im pretty sure the only thing special SM honour squads can take is a relic blade.. And lets not even talk about command squads, they can take no special weapons at all???

Command squads can take special weapons.

Tycho seems worthless. I don't see his leadership 10 thing anywhere, and he hits like 3 tactical marines in combat... The only thing he has going for him is one melta shot that will hit 97% of the time, then he's done. With how heavily contested the HQ's are with Astorath to go with the now-much-better jp death company, or PRIESTS to go with...anyone, or libby dreads using quickening on themselves, or Mephy...

Yeah...my Tycho model is now a combi-melta sternguard sergeant. He's never leaving the shelf otherwise.

UltraPrime wrote:

Command squads can take special weapons.

Im looking at their entry now, can you please tell me what i might be missing?

 Bla_Ze wrote:

UltraPrime wrote:

Command squads can take special weapons.

Im looking at their entry now, can you please tell me what i might be missing?

The part of the FAQ that added the option to take special weapons.

I guess its safe to say there is no BA Codex supplement. A few formations in Exterminatus and thats it.

sand.zzz wrote:
I guess its safe to say there is no BA Codex supplement. A few formations in Exterminatus and thats it.

Why do you say that?

 Thud wrote:

 Bla_Ze wrote:

UltraPrime wrote:

Command squads can take special weapons.

Im looking at their entry now, can you please tell me what i might be missing?

The part of the FAQ that added the option to take special weapons.

Wonderful, perhaps we have a chance to get something Close to our beloved honour squad anyway.. time will tell.

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 KillaCam wrote:
Dang. No close combat weapons on tycho besides digital weapons huh....... That blows.

I think Tycho's a bit more of a shooty character anyways. No biggy IMO.

He does get both rage and rampage so he gets a ton of attacks.

Death Company with or without jump packs hmmmmm.....