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With the new hard plastic stuff and mantic walking away from that restic gak call me interdasted indeed

The alternative would be to do a series of two player starter sets to cover all options, to stop the inevitable "but why isn't my alien race in a box", but that vastly increases the number of SKUs, which is something stores hate.

Finally got to go through all my DZ W2/3 shipment over the weekend. I was shocked to discover the only error was that, although they sent me the missing FG sprue in W3, they didn't send one at all in W2 (I believe I get two due to getting the full Starter + 2x Booster + Specialist deal). Considering I had random arms, heads etc missing from within packets for W1, I was pleasantly surprised, and with mission control it didn't take me any where near as long to check either.

The thing is DZ already gave us a box of Human vs Alien. So Couldn't DZ 2 be something different? I'm sure lots of people are interested in aliens exclusively.

Personally I like the enforcers when they are covered in powered armour but don't really care to see any with uncovered human parts.

I thought it was nice of Mantic that when I needed a replacement Natalya (the Novas Virae lady standing on one leg?), they tossed in a whole other bag of Novas Virae.

I think my Deadzone pledge is finally, completely, OFFICIALLY done. Just in time for the next KS, right?

Still unsure just how many Forge Fathers I'm supposed to have. I'd gotten a starter and a booster. 10 Forge Guard? Not even sure.

I don't want to fill out any more forms!

Yeah I think 10.

Lukez wrote:
The thing is DZ already gave us a box of Human vs Alien. So Couldn't DZ 2 be something different? I'm sure lots of people are interested in aliens exclusively.

I agree it would be nice, but I think for sales to young folks, you really need the "heroic" humans. Plus, it looks like the Enforcers are poised to become for Deadzone what Space Marines are for 40k. That is, the flagship faction and the frequently-seen protagonists who of course are (mostly) human.

I've personally got no interest in the enforcers, but I think the strategy above it makes the best sense business-wise for Mantic.

Not sure when they'll release them to the general public, but the Veer-myn sculpts for Infestation look very nice. It's been a while since I saw them, but I'm definitely looking forward to getting a few sets of them.

They seem to be taking a step away from the "scrap and rags" appearance, and now look like they're wearing actual vacuum-sealable suits. The guns also look much more like they're chemical flamethrowers than gothic rayguns.

 darkPrince010 wrote:
Not sure when they'll release them to the general public, but the Veer-myn sculpts for Infestation look very nice. It's been a while since I saw them, but I'm definitely looking forward to getting a few sets of them.

They seem to be taking a step away from the "scrap and rags" appearance, and now look like they're wearing actual vacuum-sealable suits. The guns also look much more like they're chemical flamethrowers than gothic rayguns.

How you tease with those words. For shame.

These new ones still may end up hanging out with my Skyre guys though...

New look, new fluff? This would be acceptable! Hard plastic? Even more so!

I'm not sure I'll ever warm up to the idea of space rats. Granted, I'm not a big fan of the Skaven idea either, so maybe I'm just not in the demographic.

I am looking forward to this one even if I don't get insane like I did with DeadZone 1.0 mainly because I won't let Scarletsquig talk me into it this time.

There've been two Veer-myn renders floating around on the internet since the last Mantic open day, as well as a concept drawing of a large rat monster called a "beast." Here's one of the renders:



I'm guessing Mantic insiders have seen quite a bit more than this image and the other two I mentioned?


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Beasts of War just put up some new Veer-myn renders, including what looks like a heavy weapons guy:





They also posted the other render I mentioned that's been circulating since the last open day:



So far I still prefer Remy's restic Veer-myn, (I prefer the original less-streamlined, ragged, covered-arms look), but these aren't bad at all. I'll be on board for at least a base pledge including Veer-myn and Pathfinder starters whenever the KS launches. Beasts of War is also saying it will happen sometime this month, incidentally.

I wanna see some hair on those arms! But they don't look bad.

Heavy weapon rat's shoulderpad must be painted like a smiley face.

It's the law.

Those are all the renders I've seen for the Veer-myn.

I like the new high-tech look, it makes them a more credible threat and ties in better with their new background material (which I can't talk about, but Mantic probably will fairly soon).

 scarletsquig wrote:
Those are all the renders I've seen for the Veer-myn.

I like the new high-tech look, it makes them a more credible threat and ties in better with their new background material (which I can't talk about, but Mantic probably will fairly soon).

Lab rats gone rogue?

 Alex C wrote:
Heavy weapon rat's shoulderpad must be painted like a smiley face.

It's the law.

Can't unsee it now. Thanks a lot.

Totally going to be happening on mine now, no thanks to Alex.

I too prefer a bit of hair on my rats.

 Alex C wrote:
Heavy weapon rat's shoulderpad must be painted like a smiley face.

It's the law.

Definitely yes!

Still not sold on Space Rats - though I suppose the super double 2x secret new background might help there...

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:


I too prefer a bit of hair on my rats.

Er, OK...sure?

What, Alpharius, you like hairless rats? Like those hypoallergenic cats? Who are you, Dr Evil? Might explain a few things....


Ehh, they're ok as rendered. If any of us want more fur, it's one of the easier things to sculpt/press mold.

Maybe during the campaign we can petition Mantic to include variant arms with more fur, for those who like their space ratmen a little more hairy.

I guess that's possible with hard plastic sprues in the mix, though too many extra arms might compromise what other goodies make it onto the sprue!

 Alex C wrote:
Heavy weapon rat's shoulderpad must be painted like a smiley face.

It's the law.

More hair would be better at the moment they look a bit too ripped, but then that might make sense with the new fluff.

 scarletsquig wrote:
Those are all the renders I've seen for the Veer-myn.

I like the new high-tech look, it makes them a more credible threat and ties in better with their new background material (which I can't talk about, but Mantic probably will fairly soon).

Hmm... Can you confirm or deny that the name will be changing?

One thing I'm cautiously optimistic for is that both the Veer-myn and Pathfinder renders look well-suited to having single-piece hips with both legs already attached, like the Plague zombies. The hard plastic enforcers with two independent legs that fit best in a particular configuration with a particular torso are a bit of a pain.

 judgedoug wrote:

 scarletsquig wrote:
Those are all the renders I've seen for the Veer-myn.

I like the new high-tech look, it makes them a more credible threat and ties in better with their new background material (which I can't talk about, but Mantic probably will fairly soon).

Hmm... Can you confirm or deny that the name will be changing?

There was a petition from, basically, all the different rules committees.......the end result hasn't been made known (at least not to the committees, individuals may know).

It might not be too hard to add hair to the arms. These are rather nice.

Dammit Mantic. I NEEDS this DZ2. I wasn't even particularly impressed with DZ1...

Hey everyone!

When something new of importance gets posted here that everyone is talking about, can someone (anyone) click the 'notify moderator' button on the first post where that thing is mentioned and in the comments field just say something along the lines of: 'please update thread title with this info'.

That way a moderator can update the thread's title to say what page the newest discussion starts on, so anyone interested in the new Mantic hotness can figure out where to jump right in even if they haven't been keeping up with this thread regularly.

Thanks!

My DZ2 wishlist:

- Sprue of hard plastic counters.
- Sprue of hard plastic crates, just as good as the DBX ones (they are awesome).
- Light Infantry Veer-myn sprue with lots of options.
- Heavy Infantry Veer-myn sprue with lots of options.
- Pathfinder sprue.
- Industrial Battlezone.
- Completely new set of rules which cut down on the complexity, keeping the good stuff like the grid, simple LoS etc. Somewhere in-between DZ 1 and Mars Attacks in terms of complexity.
- Card quick reference sheet.
- New mat design.

That's for starters, making the set have quality components before moving on to:

- Brokkr Sprue.
- Cypher Sprue.
- Rebel Human Sprue.
- Plague Warriors Sprue.
- Marauder Commando Sprue.

The initial launch was rushed and low quality, the second KS will offer a chance to go over the entire range again while introducing a new faction, new setting. With the added bonus of getting some serious groundwork in place before the Warpath Kickstarter.