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You aren't the only one Alex.

I'll probably have to put in just for a buck until I get all my finances sorted.

Maybe my wife will let me play with the tax return money.

I doubt it, but a man can always dream, right?

Hopefully they have enough people pledging more than a buck to actually fund the thing

 Alex C wrote:
Hopefully they have enough people pledging more than a buck to actually fund the thing

Don't you worry. I'll be in.

I'll be in too.

I always pledge the maximum i'm willing to spend on the first day to help with momentum. If they fail to impress me by close, I reduce later while things are still moving along.

Somewhat excited. Not a lot of money to throw around, but I also know better than to get duplicates of stuff unless I'm sure I want them this time. I somewhat regret getting 2x strike team as a lot of that will sit in stasis forever... but still looking forward to this.

I always pledge the most I can too.

This will be the exception though. Too many high-dollar projects lately (2 of which were Mantic).

A buck for sure, hopefully more, we'll see.

Yeah, the most I can pledge isn't going to be a lot. It'll be floating on the card till it gets paid off but I do like a good Mantic kickstarter... And some of the add-ons were genuinely a *lot* cheaper during the campaign. Stuntbot, pathfinder, striders especially.

I'm hoping they open up the back catalogue during the add on wednesdays. I need some mercs and striders.

I wonder if they'll have a new Blaine?

In for a euro as well, like ds and kow then hit the pm. Best way I've found to do any ks nowadays.

Am looking forward to seeing how the Veerymn faction pan out and also what else is offered as part of the KS.

Does anybody know if this is a "mini-kick" similar to KOW2 or just a see how big it can go job?

Mantic has its detractors but I am a big fan of Deadzone as a game and how the rules/minatures and terrain are designed (except for the useless Rebs).

Last I heard it was a mini-kick for the Veer Myn, Pathfinders and Industrial Battlezones.

We'll see though... and even the last KoW campaign went pretty far.

DS was a mini KS and look how that turned out I think they will fund Veer-Myn, Pathfinders, Industrial terrain and a lot more besides.

My guess of the 20th was correct and I happen to have the day off work I've been putting money aside for this since Christmas - although the euro dollar exchange rate has me wondering if I go all in now or split 50/50 between KS and PM in the hope the rate improves later (but money in pocket is easily spent)

I found out the 20th is a student free day, so I'll be sitting and listening to a bunch of old school marms prattling on while furiously smashing the F5 key on my laptop.

In a perfect world some of these veermyn would be able to sneak their way into my Clan Skyre engineer ranks for other skirmish games we like to play.

 pretre wrote:
Who is going to take charge of this one? If no one else, I'm sure I can give it a shot.


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Also, what's our chance of getting a V2.0 of the rules/stat cards on this one?

Go for it! You could make a new thread now if you like since it launches in a week. I'll be too busy be with the rules dev on this one to manage a thread.

No idea on v2 of the rules/ stat cards currently, rules committee has made lots of good suggestions for the current deadzone ruleset, but we haven't gotten hold of any new material to critique or test. We know just as much as everyone else currently, since our main task is to critique and balance rulesets as they are written, rather than creating them from scratch.

I did hear from a friend who chatted to a Mantic staffer at a tournament that they are considering re-writing the whole thing, possibly removing the grid and overhauling a lot of other stuff. Apparently it has been through a lot of internal playtesting at Mantic and they are looking to roll it out to see what the public think. Take that with a heaping dose of salt though, since it's a third-hand rumour, and I haven't seen anything to confirm it.

We will all know for sure in a week, one way or the other! Really looking forward to it.

Removing the grid?

Half the game is based around the cubes though, that would be a major overhaul.

I liked that system, what's wrong with it?

Hmm, I dunno whats wrong with the grid itself, though removing it would make my current jungle themed board a lot more usable for DZ...

The grid does seem like a big part of it, not measuring is cool. Although...measuring ranges never killed anyone either. Could go with some kind of range sticks like x-wing and similar... though you'd need kind of big ones.

Makes me even more curious now!

 scarletsquig wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Who is going to take charge of this one? If no one else, I'm sure I can give it a shot.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Also, what's our chance of getting a V2.0 of the rules/stat cards on this one?

Go for it! You could make a new thread now if you like since it launches in a week. I'll be too busy be with the rules dev on this one to manage a thread.

No idea on v2 of the rules/ stat cards currently, rules committee has made lots of good suggestions for the current deadzone ruleset, but we haven't gotten hold of any new material to critique or test. We know just as much as everyone else currently, since our main task is to critique and balance rulesets as they are written, rather than creating them from scratch.

I did hear from a friend who chatted to a Mantic staffer at a tournament that they are considering re-writing the whole thing, possibly removing the grid and overhauling a lot of other stuff. Apparently it has been through a lot of internal playtesting at Mantic and they are looking to roll it out to see what the public think. Take that with a heaping dose of salt though, since it's a third-hand rumour, and I haven't seen anything to confirm it.

We will all know for sure in a week, one way or the other! Really looking forward to it.

I really hope this is true.. I hate hate hate the grid thing. It's a neat idea but imposes some incredibly ridiculous situations and makes elevation a nightmare unless you are only using official deadzone plastic terrain. The sad thing is, people who backed the first one and got a rulebook will basically have a pointless stack of paper. Yeah that's true for any new edition but like I said from the first time I read the final print.. it was not ready. I sincerely hope that they dot and cross the appropriate letters before sending this next edition to press. I also am hoping that close combat is overhauled. IMO you're either amazing at it or utterly horrible at it in the current set up, with very little margin for anything other than those very polarized sides.

I guess.. yeah.. I'm excited that the rules are changing. I don't play Deadzone, despite liking the concept and most of the miniatures.

Get them to make Plague Zombies an official Plague trooper for V2 please Squig

Especially for Warpath. I have 90 of the buggers...

Personally, I hope the core rules stay largely untouched, maybe with a few tweaks/clarifications, and the focus here is on expanding upon the rather great core of the game, adding new stuff rather than changing what's already there. Similarly, I hope we don't get new cards/decks for existing models, the current ones are fine.

Whether it's GW or Mantic, I really hate the idea of paying again for rules I've already bought.

 Alex C wrote:
Hopefully they have enough people pledging more than a buck to actually fund the thing

It would be a shame if they had to learn something. And when Veermyn were so close, too.

Totally agree with Paradigm on this one, with the caveat that I have not played more than 30 games and in my gaming circles nobody has tried to be game breaking or WAAC.

 GrimDork wrote:
Although...measuring ranges never killed anyone either

Measuring and not measuring is the difference between getting some friends to play it, and it never leaving the shelf. Using a tape measure instead of a boardgame like grid is a deal breaking hurdle.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/639843.page

New thread.

The grid makes DZ unique. Dropping it would be a terrible idea. As it is, it needs some rebalancing, maybe a few rules changes (Im looking at you, blast... <.< )
Stream line some things, maybe reduce counter clutter a bit. And fix the campaign system a bit.

(I also wouldt mind if vehicles were changed a bit, I always felt as if they should have relatively low survive, no tough, but loads of armour... would make high AP weapons a lot more useful)

I like the grid too, but measuring wouldn't kill it for me. I do understand the boardgaming crowd would have done with it though.

Yes, actually armor the vehicles up and streamline blast. My biggest wants.

 Alex C wrote:
Yes, actually armor the vehicles up and streamline blast. My biggest wants.

Balance pass for factions would be nice too.

Do that and we're golden.

Retired and moved.

 Manchu wrote:
Retired and moved.

Thanks, Manchu!