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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/14 04:57:50
Subject: Sweden implements new rating system for video games
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Source: https://archive.today/xs4N3
Relevant quote: "The video game industry has a problem with gender equality and lack of diversity. Spelplan-ASGD (trade association for game developers and producers in Sweden) want to see if a new norm-critical rating system can help non-white-males feel more welcome in taking on the role of gamers as well as game developers.
Vinnova (Swedish government agency) has granted Spelplan-ASGD 270,000 SEK (=36,000$) to investigate whether it is feasible to develop a rating system for video games that would make it possible for those who buy games to choose norm-critical games and in that way put pressure on the industry. The idea is that the system would also provide support for developers to develop new types of games."
This just seems really weird. I almost expect them to start trying to slip things into the peoples water now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/14 06:02:49
Subject: Sweden implements new rating system for video games
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Combat Jumping Akalis
Too close to Jersey.
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If every in-game character in all games ever made were of a different race/ethnicity than I am, I would still find a govt. label warning me of such...troubling.
I'm a white male and have no issue pretending to be female, black, elvish, etc. etc. for gaming purposes. Besides, I can vote with my dollars, and who buys a game anymore without foreknowledge of what it is about? Video game purchases are too pricey to not know what you're getting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/14 07:12:00
Subject: Sweden implements new rating system for video games
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Non white male here. I have no issue in "taking on the role of gamers". Considering how big gaming is in China and Korea, I don't think we have a problem Automatically Appended Next Post: And not to forget Japan
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/14 09:26:18
Subject: Sweden implements new rating system for video games
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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Wait, i don't understand. Are they saying there's too many white men in video games or not enough?
Either way, a gender/ethnicity rating kinda disturbs me for a reason i can't quite put my finger on just yet.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/14 09:35:40
Subject: Sweden implements new rating system for video games
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Sweeden really is becoming a basket case of a country.
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"And if we've learnt anything over the past 1000 mile retreat it's that Russian agriculture is in dire need of mechanisation!" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/14 14:59:31
Subject: Sweden implements new rating system for video games
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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Yeah. I can get behind more non-white guys (or at least white guys who aren't completely interchangeable with each other) but incorporating that into a rating system is kind of Bizarre. With a capital B.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/14 15:12:26
Subject: Sweden implements new rating system for video games
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Tzeentch Aspiring Sorcerer Riding a Disc
The darkness between the stars
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LordofHats wrote:
Yeah. I can get behind more non-white guys (or at least white guys who aren't completely interchangeable with each other) but incorporating that into a rating system is kind of Bizarre. With a capital B.
I'm going to have to third this. I mean I'd love to have less murderhobo 30 year old white grizzled white male dudes that are largely emotionless past revenge and all but this just sounds absolutely outrageous.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/14 15:15:43
Subject: Sweden implements new rating system for video games
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Hahahaha, oh dear lord, please tell me this is a hoax. That's the most stupid governmental idea I've seen in a long time. Really makes the "mental" stand out in governmental.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/14 15:24:46
Subject: Sweden implements new rating system for video games
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Torga_DW wrote:Wait, i don't understand. Are they saying there's too many white men in video games or not enough?
Either way, a gender/ethnicity rating kinda disturbs me for a reason i can't quite put my finger on just yet.
That's not really what they're saying. They're saying that they want more non-whitemen playing games, which is strange because we do play plenty of games
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/14 15:25:54
Subject: Sweden implements new rating system for video games
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Tzeentch Aspiring Sorcerer Riding a Disc
The darkness between the stars
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Sigvatr wrote:Hahahaha, oh dear lord, please tell me this is a hoax. That's the most stupid governmental idea I've seen in a long time. Really makes the "mental" stand out in governmental.
Rated PG-13WM, PG-13CW, PG-13WN
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/14 15:26:54
Subject: Sweden implements new rating system for video games
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Hallowed Canoness
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This is weird. Automatically Appended Next Post: Sining wrote:Considering how big gaming is in China and Korea, I don't think we have a problem
Koreans do not allow non-Korean to play their (multiplayer) games. Literally. Unless they have a 6-month visa, iirc. I did not, and therefore I could not even create an account on Korean games, or IM services or anything.
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/14 15:47:17
Subject: Sweden implements new rating system for video games
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Koreans do not allow non-Korean to play their (multiplayer) games. Literally. Unless they have a 6-month visa, iirc. I did not, and therefore I could not even create an account on Korean games, or IM services or anything.
I'm sorry hybrid, but if you don't play they're games their way, they don't want you playing them at all
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/14 15:56:05
Subject: Sweden implements new rating system for video games
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Hallowed Canoness
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Meh. Because of that, we had to play US games. Therefore I had the honor of beating a Korean at a game of Starcraft: Brood War  . Okay, he was the worst of the team, and really not a good player at any rate, but still I beat a Korean at Brood War  .
At Warcraft III too.
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/14 16:12:47
Subject: Re:Sweden implements new rating system for video games
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I think I remember reading a story saying Sweeden was considering implement a movie rating system based of whether a film based the Bechdel Test.
A test which BTW The Shawshank Redemption would fail and yet The Bikini Carwash Company would pass.
Yes BTW The Bikini Carwash Company is a real film and one which, though comparatively innocent in these days of broadband internet, a VHS copy of was of great ‘assistance’ during my teenage years in the 90’s. Best not google it at work though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/14 16:19:27
Subject: Sweden implements new rating system for video games
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Tell me about it. You can't really be surprised at this point though, with the Moron Party sitting in the government.
#reelection2015
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/14 16:23:21
Subject: Sweden implements new rating system for video games
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Fireknife Shas'el
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They took my idea.  I think I made a post about switching the labels on games to be more descriptive about what the content is.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/14 16:47:25
Subject: Sweden implements new rating system for video games
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Sining wrote: Torga_DW wrote:Wait, i don't understand. Are they saying there's too many white men in video games or not enough?
Either way, a gender/ethnicity rating kinda disturbs me for a reason i can't quite put my finger on just yet.
That's not really what they're saying. They're saying that they want more non-whitemen playing games, which is strange because we do play plenty of games
Have you considered that seeing as how you don't live in Sweden, you aren't the target of this initiative?
I'm sure plenty of non-white males play games, but I'm fairly sure that you're probably the dominant race in your country and so many games will be made with you as the target, which won't be the case for non-white males or non-males in Sweden.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/14 17:16:57
Subject: Re:Sweden implements new rating system for video games
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Hallowed Canoness
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LuciusAR wrote:A test which BTW The Shawshank Redemption would fail and yet The Bikini Carwash Company would pass.
Worse: Gravity do not pass the test, but Sucker Punch do. The Bechdel test is not aimed at rating particular movies, it deals with trends.
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/14 17:19:15
Subject: Sweden implements new rating system for video games
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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Pacific Rim also fails test, despite Mako Mori being a suprisingly balanced depiction of a woman in a genre that is so macho centric.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/14 18:05:37
Subject: Sweden implements new rating system for video games
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Hallowed Canoness
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Yeah, but the main character is male, and most of the crew too I guess.
One of my favorite movie pass the Bechdel test and fails about any possible other test. The only two named character having a discussion together, iirc, are two 10 years old girls. And that movie is awesome.
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/14 18:24:17
Subject: Sweden implements new rating system for video games
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Pacific Rim fails about any test that requires a movie to be more intelligent than your average Bay movie.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/14 18:48:19
Subject: Sweden implements new rating system for video games
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Don't know if this is a good idea, but given the numerous failures of the various markets in the past decade, I don't think regulation is inherently bad.
Probably a better way yo do this though.
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/14 18:59:03
Subject: Sweden implements new rating system for video games
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Sigvatr wrote:Pacific Rim fails about any test that requires a movie to be more intelligent than your average Bay movie.
You have no idea how happy I am to see you post this.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/14 19:35:57
Subject: Sweden implements new rating system for video games
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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In order to stop sky-craper high monsters, they decide to build a wall. A GODDAMN WALL. An 8th grader's homework is better written than this movie!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/14 19:53:00
Subject: Sweden implements new rating system for video games
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Sigvatr wrote:In order to stop sky-craper high monsters, they decide to build a wall.
A GODDAMN WALL.
An 8th grader's homework is better written than this movie!
It worked in Attack on Titan.
Oh wait...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/14 21:25:52
Subject: Sweden implements new rating system for video games
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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Hahahahahahahhaa
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/15 02:30:16
Subject: Re:Sweden implements new rating system for video games
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Hangin' with Gork & Mork
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/15 04:37:41
Subject: Sweden implements new rating system for video games
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Goliath wrote:Sining wrote: Torga_DW wrote:Wait, i don't understand. Are they saying there's too many white men in video games or not enough?
Either way, a gender/ethnicity rating kinda disturbs me for a reason i can't quite put my finger on just yet.
That's not really what they're saying. They're saying that they want more non-whitemen playing games, which is strange because we do play plenty of games
Have you considered that seeing as how you don't live in Sweden, you aren't the target of this initiative?
I'm sure plenty of non-white males play games, but I'm fairly sure that you're probably the dominant race in your country and so many games will be made with you as the target, which won't be the case for non-white males or non-males in Sweden.
So what are you saying? The asians in Sweden are magically different from the asians in China, Korea, Japan, Malaysia and Singapore?
Also dude, wth are you smoking? I'm the dominant race in my country so many games will be made with me as the target? Wow, I guess that means all those western or japanese games I played totally don't count. There goes Diablo III, Civ beyond earth, GTA V, Fantasy Life, Bayonetta 2, SSB, etc. I mean, at this point you're trying so hard to be PC you're actually pretty reverse-racist. Here's a hint, I and most people I know play western games. My roommate is; right at this moment, playing Mechwarrior Online. So maybe you can stuff your 'suppositions' where they're supposed to go
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/15 05:46:15
Subject: Sweden implements new rating system for video games
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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I keep hearing that Sweden has lots of crazy identity politics-related laws. Does anyone have an examples, or a list?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/15 06:29:17
Subject: Sweden implements new rating system for video games
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