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Yes, it was a thing in GTA3, one of the things the media ran with at the time. You may not have gotten all your money back, but it was still enough to encourage people to do it.

Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 illuknisaa wrote:
Also to note this sex "mechanic" is one the few scenes where the player has a choice how things proceed.

It seems the opposite in the video. You have the choice between 4 different sexual acts with different costs, and that is all. Would like the fellatio to feel less forceful? You are out of luck.
On the other hand, when the prostitute gets out of the char, it is entirely your choice if you want to beat the crap out of her or not.

You get to choose from those 4 options. Eg. in bioware games you just get a cutscene and thats it.

Melissia wrote:Seems gimmicky and pointless, included for the sheer purpose of causing the game to have media coverage rather than for its own sake.

We live in an age of free porn, and free porn of a massively higher variety and quality than this game would deliver, at that.

According to this prostitutes have always given a healing effect (except in china town wars): http://gta.wikia.com/Prostitutes

So it is not pointless. Gimmiky maybe.

The inclusion of the sex scene itself was pointless, however. In a game like Duke Nukem Forever, it helped establish the main character's personality, favoring setting tone over pure titillation (as surprising as it might be to hear from me, I actually kind of liked DNF). In a game like Mass Effect, it advanced a subplot, and revolved around interactions, however optional, with different characters in the game. A similar mechanic, for a game series like Metal Gear Solid where they showed Snake actually healing himself with splints and the like, set the survivalist mood for the game as the healing of the wounds that way was intrinsically tied to how the game was meant to feel.

This however... is just pointless titillation. Having the character healed by sex doesn't necessitate actually showing the sex; it doesn't really set a mood for the game (the greater game doesn't revolve around sex); it doesn't advance any subplot or involve interaction between established characters; and it is purely random optional sex without dialogue or context, and which doesn't really show anything about the main character's personality.

 Melissia wrote:
The inclusion of the sex scene itself was pointless, however. In a game like Duke Nukem Forever, it helped establish the main character's personality, favoring setting tone over pure titillation (as surprising as it might be to hear from me, I actually kind of liked DNF). In a game like Mass Effect, it advanced a subplot, and revolved around interactions, however optional, with different characters in the game. A similar mechanic, for a game series like Metal Gear Solid where they showed Snake actually healing himself with splints and the like, set the survivalist mood for the game as the healing of the wounds that way was intrinsically tied to how the game was meant to feel.

This however... is just pointless titillation. Having the character healed by sex doesn't necessitate actually showing the sex; it doesn't really set a mood for the game (the greater game doesn't revolve around sex); it doesn't advance any subplot or involve interaction between established characters; and it is purely random optional sex without dialogue or context, and which doesn't really show anything about the main character's personality.

It fits the theme of crime and doing bad things. Like I imagine the reason that prostitutes were included and performed a important function back in GTA 3 was to fit with the feeling of being a criminal and doing criminal things.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
Yes, it was a thing in GTA3, one of the things the media ran with at the time. You may not have gotten all your money back, but it was still enough to encourage people to do it.

You got money from killing anyone in GTA3, like in GTA5 if my conclusion from this small video is correct.

Maybe the GTA devs are just Marvin Gaye fans?

 Ashiraya wrote:
I don't see how you praise that this is a thing, considering how gakky the scene is.

Yeah theres no way two people can move that smoothly in a car, wheres the cramping leg, elbow in the eye, putting the gear in neutral. #wheretherelismat

Can the game be played in first person now?

Sure looks like it when he customarily murders the whore he just solicited. GTA tradition and all that.

 Melissia wrote:
Seems gimmicky and pointless, included for the sheer purpose of causing the game to have media coverage rather than for its own sake.

We live in an age of free porn, and free porn of a massively higher variety and quality than this game would deliver, at that.

Pretty much my feelings too

 Medium of Death wrote:
Can the game be played in first person now?

Sure looks like it when he customarily murders the whore he just solicited. GTA tradition and all that.

Yes you can play in first person now.

Why would I pay money for FPS sex when I can do that for free for real? Is there some appeal that I am missing?

 Ahtman wrote:
Why would I pay money for FPS sex when I can do that for free for real? Is there some appeal that I am missing?

Risk free?

You don't have to pay everytime.

 Asherian Command wrote:
Risk free?

Well there is the risk that people find out you are more interested in fake sex in a game than in real life.

 Asherian Command wrote:
You don't have to pay everytime.

If you are ever having to pay you're doing it wrong, I would think.

 Ahtman wrote:

 Asherian Command wrote:
Risk free?

Well there is the risk that people find out you are more interested in fake sex in a game than in real life.

 Asherian Command wrote:
You don't have to pay everytime.

If you are ever having to pay you're doing it wrong, I would think.

I am in no way defending GTA, as I hate everything about GTA.

I think that might be the defense.

nomotog wrote:
It fits the theme of crime and doing bad things.

Whether or not prostitution is inherently a bad thing is probably too serious a topic for people on this board, but I don't really think this applies in this case.

 Melissia wrote:
Seems gimmicky and pointless, included for the sheer purpose of causing the game to have media coverage rather than for its own sake.

We live in an age of free porn, and free porn of a massively higher variety and quality than this game would deliver, at that.

Pointless, yes. But so is the faux outrage over it. I've seen worse sex and violence in 12 - 15 rated films, and TV shows.

Plus, instead of bitching about the adult content of an adult rated game, concerned parents should probably consider...not buying the adult rated game for little Timmy in the first place.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

You can beat up anyone in the entire game, but people have taken an habit to systematically beat up prostitutes just after paying them. While they do not systematically beat up, say, the taxi client when taking taxi missions (are those still a thing?).

I love this sentence. It shows how opinionated and clueless you are about what "people" do at the very same time.

How do you even "systematically" beat down prostitutes? Are you going to make a map with their usual positions and then drive from spot to spot to beat them up?

I'd be careful with generalisations. They are often used trying to make a point that cannot stand (the prostitute killing for example is a shining example). I mean...would people call Payday 2 a civilian shooting simulator? I don't think so.

Why would you beat up the taxi client, when he has already given you his money? You don't know if he still has cash.

 Ahtman wrote:
Why would I pay money for FPS sex when I can do that for free for real? Is there some appeal that I am missing?

So don't?

When I played GTA5 on 360 last year, I didn't even think to see if you could bang prostitutes. Yet, the game still functioned, so I guess it's possible to entirely ignore that mechanic of the game. True story.

pfft....

in fallout 2 I could have sex with hookers, I could also get married, and gay married and have coitus with them as well....


GTA is behind the curve

Ahtman wrote:Why would I pay money for FPS sex when I can do that for free for real? Is there some appeal that I am missing?

You need a reason? Why play a truck driving simulator when you can be a truck driver for real?

Melissia wrote:The inclusion of the sex scene itself was pointless, however. In a game like Duke Nukem Forever, it helped establish the main character's personality, favoring setting tone over pure titillation (as surprising as it might be to hear from me, I actually kind of liked DNF). In a game like Mass Effect, it advanced a subplot, and revolved around interactions, however optional, with different characters in the game. A similar mechanic, for a game series like Metal Gear Solid where they showed Snake actually healing himself with splints and the like, set the survivalist mood for the game as the healing of the wounds that way was intrinsically tied to how the game was meant to feel.

This however... is just pointless titillation. Having the character healed by sex doesn't necessitate actually showing the sex; it doesn't really set a mood for the game (the greater game doesn't revolve around sex); it doesn't advance any subplot or involve interaction between established characters; and it is purely random optional sex without dialogue or context, and which doesn't really show anything about the main character's personality.

Could this be more wrong? The 3d GTAs have been about this real world satire. How can you have satire if you don't try to mimic real world? Being first person also gives this gritty personal feeling. With first person view you feel like you are in control and responsible of your actions.

"is purely random optional sex"

So paying a whore for sex is random optional sex?

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
I've seen worse sex and violence in 12 - 15 rated films, and TV shows.

Depends on what you mean by worse. If you mean more explicit, then yeah. But sex that feels more forceful, in 12-15 rated stuff? I doubt it.

 Azazelx wrote:
I love this sentence. It shows how opinionated and clueless you are about what "people" do at the very same time.

I think it mainly shows that you are reading way too much into what I wrote, actually.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Why would you beat up the taxi client, when he has already given you his money? You don't know if he still has cash.

That is not how the game mechanics work. Beating down someone will earn you cash regardless of any such consideration.
I think the real reason people will not do that is that leaving the car will stop the taxi missions.

 Sigvatr wrote:
How do you even "systematically" beat down prostitutes? Are you going to make a map with their usual positions and then drive from spot to spot to beat them up?

Nah, not systematically going to find prostitutes to beat them. Just very often beating the prostitute after you have used her. Hence the comparison with the taxi client.

 illuknisaa wrote:
How can you have satire if you don't try to mimic real world?

But just reproducing the real world without introducing a spin is simulation, not satire. And here, I do not see the element of satire.

Satire requires humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule. This has all but four of these things.

 illuknisaa wrote:
You need a reason?

Since we all need reasons for why we do things I will say yes.

 illuknisaa wrote:
Why play a truck driving simulator when you can be a truck driver for real?

Why would I play a simulator of anything I actually can do in real life? Wouldn't I be better off just doing it?

 Ahtman wrote:

Why would I play a simulator of anything I actually can do in real life? Wouldn't I be better off just doing it?

well.. considering that if you do GTA actions in real life, you go to jail and or die ect...


yes.. you are much better off doing it in GTA despite being able to do it in real life.


Pretty sad that no one bats an eye at the crime/murder in the game, but heaven forbid sex becomes possible.


In the end, its an adult game, that no one has to buy or play, so if you dont like it, dont play it, or dont choose to indulge in fictional hookers.

may as well complain about porn or people who buy hookers in real life, at least that is complaining about real stuff as opposed to fictional situations that dont really exist.

 Melissia wrote:
Satire requires humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule. This has all but four of these things.

I will just rip someone else's option. GTA isn't satire because satire requires a point/message/reason and GTA doesn't have that. There isn't a message in the madness.

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You know, All this talk about GTA is making me long for the early days of GTA when it was more of a game. You know how you had health and weapons pickups just placed around the map.


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 easysauce wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:

Why would I play a simulator of anything I actually can do in real life? Wouldn't I be better off just doing it?

well.. considering that if you do GTA actions in real life, you go to jail and or die ect...


yes.. you are much better off doing it in GTA despite being able to do it in real life.


Pretty sad that no one bats an eye at the crime/murder in the game, but heaven forbid sex becomes possible.


In the end, its an adult game, that no one has to buy or play, so if you dont like it, dont play it, or dont choose to indulge in fictional hookers.

may as well complain about porn or people who buy hookers in real life, at least that is complaining about real stuff as opposed to fictional situations that dont really exist.

No one is batting an eye at the sex.

I was going to post the "Well there it is," meme but, I have a feeling the mods wouldn't approve. This thread though...

 easysauce wrote:
may as well complain about porn or people who buy hookers in real life

I have complaints about both, but they have nothing to do with there being sex involved (they have to do with abuses of pornstars and prostitutes, respectively, by their employers).

so, your issue is not that sex with prostitutes *exists* in the game, but that its done abusively?