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 Melissia wrote:

 easysauce wrote:
I assume you meant gaming =/= RL??

The symbol != in formal logic (as well as programming logic) translates to "not equal".

Then please kindly refrain from using formal and programming logic codes as the average person does not understand it. =/= Is the more common version, no? You confused at least 3 people, myself included and started a silly argument over who assumed what someone else assumed someone else meant.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Then please kindly refrain from using formal and programming logic codes as the average person does not understand it.

No.


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 easysauce wrote:
there is no strawmanning either

You asserted that I held equivalent prostitution in video games and prostitution in real life.

 Ashiraya wrote:
This thread is a perfect example of why Dakka OT is absolutely insane.

It's Dakka Dakka's personal chan site
I dub it Dakkachan.

 Melissia wrote:
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 easysauce wrote:
there is no strawmanning either

You asserted that I held equivalent prostitution in video games and prostitution in real life.

except I did not make that assertation, I asked you a question namely
"so, your issue is not that sex with prostitutes *exists* in the game, but that its done abusively?"
and no where did I make it about real life... then you reply with esoteric code symbols that only apply to however you code (! generally just means factoral function, code symbols are not universal either, I assumed you meant =/= and I was right, why hybrid sees fit to correct me when I assumed correctly is bewildering.)

talk about straw manning...


You said it was pointless and silly to include this feature in the game, all I did was ask you a question about why, no need to be so hostile.

all games are pointless and silly, that can even be considered "the point" of games in some respects.

 easysauce wrote:
I know english is a 2nd language to us both, but your statement makes 0 sense... you tell me I misquoted when I didnt, then "correct" my sentence by phrasing it exactly letter for letter as I wrote it.

Your sarcasm meter is obviously broken. This was a joke. I was repeating exactly what you said, in the same fashion you did with Melissia.

 easysauce wrote:
I see no issue with sex being depicted in GTAV, not sure why you think I have an issue with it

I am not sure why you think others have an issue with it.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Then please kindly refrain from using formal and programming logic codes as the average person does not understand it.

Three words: fake geek boys .
(Am I using this right ?)

Seriously, is that not some basics everyone know? I am not sure =/= is more well-known. If you really want something else than !=, just use ≠. Everyone understand ≠, unless they have only gakky fonts installed on their machine.

I don't have that key. I have to go with the crappy version.
=/= is closer in appearance, it just looks terrible.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 easysauce wrote:
I know english is a 2nd language to us both, but your statement makes 0 sense... you tell me I misquoted when I didnt, then "correct" my sentence by phrasing it exactly letter for letter as I wrote it.

Your sarcasm meter is obviously broken. This was a joke. I was repeating exactly what you said, in the same fashion you did with Melissia.

this is text on the internet, I cannot see you winking or hear your tone of voice.
so yes, the sarcasm meter is broken by default... thats a basic thing that you should understand about text only communication.

I asked her what she meant because it was confusing what she meant, google doesnt say != means not equal, ive programmed in several languages that also do not use that as meaning not equal.

You really shouldnt feel the need to be sarcastic towards someone merely asking for clarification on the meaning of a very unclear statement. its not the same fashion as I asked the question, I asked for clarification in good faith, you made a sarcastic comment, then accuse me of being just as sarcastic as you...

which is hilariously ironic since you also accused me of projecting earlier as well.

 easysauce wrote:
then you reply with esoteric code symbols that only apply to however you code (! generally just means factoral function

It is used in C (and everyone knows C, right?), C++, C#, Java, php, Javascript, Python, Ocaml, Haskel, …
Actually, I have a hard time thinking of a language that does not use this.
In which language did you program?

 easysauce wrote:
except I did not make that assertation, I asked you a question

A loaded question IS an assertion.

 easysauce wrote:
You said it was pointless and silly to include this feature in the game, all I did was ask you a question about why

I already explained why. You did not, however, ask why I thought this feature was pointless.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
I don't have that key.

Well, we likely have basically the same keyboard. French azerty, right? With my layout, the ≠ is AltGr+Maj+). If you are on Windows or MacOsX, is it going to be different. On Windows, you can hold Alt, press on Keypad+, then type a unicode number (2260 for ≠) and then release Alt to type any unicode character. Also, Wikipedia says Alt+x works directly for ≠ on Windows. I can find for OSX too, I am pretty sure there is a shortcut for it .

Seems like a pretty typical move for a GTA game. Explicit, and bound to stir up controvosy (and thus more publicity).

 Chongara wrote:
I'm sure 14-year-olds everywhere are giddy with anticipation

They have free, high quality porn on the internet. Why would they resort to poorly done clothed awkward sex?

 easysauce wrote:
its not the same fashion as I asked the question, I asked for clarification in good faith, you made a sarcastic comment, then accuse me of being just as sarcastic as you...

For the record, I genuinely thought you were sarcastic. Because that felt like common knowledge to me. But apparently, it is not, so, okay, fair enough. I guess I spend too much time with nerds .

I will never understand the controversy that sex in media causes when people seem to take no issue with violence. How is sex worse than mowing down innocents with gunfire?

 Melissia wrote:

 easysauce wrote:
except I did not make that assertation, I asked you a question

A loaded question IS an assertion..

no, its really not, I asked if your issue was with the simple inclusion of hooker sex, or HOW hooker sex was included.

there is no assertation in that question, you are making things up out of thin air.


fyi hybrid /=

is the symbol im used to,

Your question doesn't logically follow from anything I have posted.

 carlos13th wrote:
I will never understand the controversy that sex in media causes when people seem to take no issue with violence.

What I do not understand currently is why people think there is a controversy.
And some seems dying to see a controversy, but fail to find anyone to be offended by it, to their despair .

 easysauce wrote:
fyi hybrid /=

is the symbol im used to,

Which language uses this? According to Wikipedia, there are two very, very old languages whose conception belongs to the prehistory of programming: Algol, and Fortran. They are still used, and still useful, but it is extremely rare to start to learn programming with those language nowadays. Are you a coding elder god/old one?


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 easysauce wrote:
no, its really not, I asked if your issue was with the simple inclusion of hooker sex, or HOW hooker sex was included.

If she has no issue and you are asking her what her issue is, what is she supposed to answer?
You are, again, assuming outrage where there is just disinterest.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Then please kindly refrain from using formal and programming logic codes as the average person does not understand it.

Three words: fake geek boys .(Am I using this right ?)

You say that, as though you think it will offend me? Unlike some here, I'm not obsessed with labels. Being called a "fake geek" offends me no more than being called a "geek".

Seriously, is that not some basics everyone know?

Oh sure, because everybody's a programmer.

I could go dropping technical terms relating to Forensic science (as I hold a Bsc degree in Crime Scene Science) and you probably wouldn't have a clue what I was talking about either.

Please do everyone reading this thread a favour, and not assume that they can all understand programming codes. Its basic manners.

I am not sure =/= is more well-known. If you really want something else than !=, just use ≠. Everyone understand ≠, unless they have only gakky fonts installed on their machine.

≠ is exactly what I meant. =/= is just an alternate, longer form of writing it, yes? I don't know how to type ≠ on a keyboard.

I explained what the symbol meant, to the point that it is now abundantly clear to all involved. If you are dissatisfied with my explanation, I don't care. Back on topic.

 Melissia wrote:
I explained what the symbol meant, to the point that it is now abundantly clear to all involved. If you are dissatisfied with my explanation, I don't care. Back on topic.

Fine. I wasn't talking to you.


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 carlos13th wrote:
I will never understand the controversy that sex in media causes when people seem to take no issue with violence. How is sex worse than mowing down innocents with gunfire?

Its not. But try telling extremist Feminists that.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
You say that, as though you think it will offend me?

No, that was a joke on the famous “fake geek girl” accusation .

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
≠ is exactly what I meant. =/= is just an alternate, longer form of writing it, yes?

!= is another alternate form, just shorter. That is why it was chosen by C, and then almost every ulterior programming language.


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 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

 carlos13th wrote:
I will never understand the controversy that sex in media causes when people seem to take no issue with violence. How is sex worse than mowing down innocents with gunfire?

Its not. But try telling extremist Feminists that.

Yeah, they are causing this big controversy that is controversing right now. Can you see how controversied we all are? So much controversy!

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
You say that, as though you think it will offend me?

No, that was a joke on the famous “fake geek girl” accusation .

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
≠ is exactly what I meant. =/= is just an alternate, longer form of writing it, yes?

!= is another alternate form, just shorter. That is why it was chosen by C, and then almost every ulterior programming language.

Which is fine. Except that not everyone is a programmer.

And you didn't answer the question. =/= is the same thing as ≠ ? When I'm handwriting, I use ≠. When I'm typing, I use =/=, because I don't know actually how to type ≠.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

 carlos13th wrote:
I will never understand the controversy that sex in media causes when people seem to take no issue with violence. How is sex worse than mowing down innocents with gunfire?

Its not. But try telling extremist Feminists that.

Yeah, they are causing this big controversy that is controversing right now. Can you see how controversied we all are? So much controversy!

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
And you didn't answer the question. =/= is the same thing as ≠ ?

≠ is the same thing as =/= is the same thing as !=.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
When I'm typing, I use =/=, because I don't know actually how to type ≠.

But… you just did .
(Yeah, I know you copy-pasted it, but I explained just above how to do it.)

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Um, what? Are you doing a Frazzled impression?

I am mocking this idea that there is a controversy going on. If there is one, it is a very quiet one that is definitely not happening on this thread.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
When I'm typing, I use =/=, because I don't know actually how to type ≠.

But… you just did .
(Yeah, I know you copy-pasted it, but I explained just above how to do it.)

Yes I am copy pasting. And I tried the hot keys that you mentioned but they don't work for me.

I am mocking this idea that there is a controversy going on. If there is one, it is a very quiet one that is definitely not happening on this thread.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=gta+v+first+person+sex&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&client=firefox-a&channel=sb&gfe_rd=cr&ei=XZRuVO_wI9Cq8wez5YC4Ag

About 1,460,000 results

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=!%3D+versus+%3D%2F%3D
About 326 000 000 results .




Okay, maybe there is a controversy somewhere else, far far away from this thread .

 Sigvatr wrote:

 Chongara wrote:
I'm sure 14-year-olds everywhere are giddy with anticipation

They have free, high quality porn on the internet. Why would they resort to poorly done clothed awkward sex?

Because it's interactive and involves a character they know? They're not going to be happy because it's beat-off material, they're gonna be happy because they get to be in (some) control of the virtual fething of their virtual badass crimeman.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Azazelx wrote:
I love this sentence. It shows how opinionated and clueless you are about what "people" do at the very same time.

I think it mainly shows that you are reading way too much into what I wrote, actually.

No "reading into" required. Just your own literal verbiage.



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 easysauce wrote:

being able to deliver pizza in GTA adds nothing for me, doesnt mean the developers should cater the game to only deliver content I want and omit content I dont want, especially when I can control what stuff I do myself and just choose not to.

So, can you deliver Pizzas in GTA5?

 Azazelx wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Azazelx wrote:
I love this sentence. It shows how opinionated and clueless you are about what "people" do at the very same time.

I think it mainly shows that you are reading way too much into what I wrote, actually.

No "reading into" required. Just your own literal verbiage.

Seeing as Azazelx brought this up again..

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
You can beat up anyone in the entire game, but people have taken an habit to systematically beat up prostitutes just after paying them. While they do not systematically beat up, say, the taxi client when taking taxi missions (are those still a thing?).

Prove it.

Who are these "people"?
Can you point them out?
Can you show us evidence that they are "systematically beating up prostitutes but ignoring taxi clients" ?
Can you prove, assuming these "people" are guilty of what you accuse them of, that they are in fact the majority?


The above quote is little more than a baseless assertion masquerading as fact. Its the Sarkeesian style of argument:

1. Present opinion as fact.
2. Pretend that your baseless assertions are self evidently true.
3. Skip the step where you prove your assertion, go straight to 4.
4. Talk about how horrible this so far unproven situation is.

You did notice that is what happened in the video right?

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
1. Present opinion as fact.
2. Pretend that your baseless assertions are self evidently true.
3. Skip the step where you prove your assertion, go straight to 4.
4. Profit.

Fixed that for you, buddy .