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 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Cheesecat wrote:
Don't vegetarians start to hate the taste and texture of meat after awhile as they to lose there familiarity with it?

I have no idea how meat taste or is texture, so I cannot tell. I have tried some vegetarian sausage when I was in Canada, did not taste very good imho, but was from what I heard very close to actual sausage.
Burger are usually good though, and those from the small fast-food where I go? Freaking delicious!

That may be a thing. I eat mostly poultry for health reasons, and after eating turkey burgers for a few years ground beef tastes a bit gamey, and I just plain can't stand the smell or taste of pork. Steak tastes fine to me though.

 Boggy Man wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Cheesecat wrote:
Don't vegetarians start to hate the taste and texture of meat after awhile as they to lose there familiarity with it?

I have no idea how meat taste or is texture, so I cannot tell. I have tried some vegetarian sausage when I was in Canada, did not taste very good imho, but was from what I heard very close to actual sausage.
Burger are usually good though, and those from the small fast-food where I go? Freaking delicious!

That may be a thing. I eat mostly poultry for health reasons, and after eating turkey burgers for a few years ground beef tastes a bit gamey, and I just plain can't stand the smell or taste of pork. Steak tastes fine to me though.

I actually had a room mate who went for a long time not eating any meat except fish.

He got super sick from beef grease getting into his food. Bassicly because he went so long with out eating meat, he lost all that bacteria in his colon that helps you digest red meat.

His diet actually caused him a ton of health issues because it got so bad. The horror stories that man went threw basically showed me how bad veterinarian diets can be if one does not watch their nutrition intake carefully.

SO what your saying is that beef is like drugs. Quitting cold turkey feths you up

I can't believe someone told me today that apparently leaving my dog outside to play in the snow..... In 8 acre area would lead to my dog getting kidnapped. Sure.. Lets go with that.

I am an animal abuser for letting my pet have freedom of choice.

Man our cat loved snow (odd, cause she's blacker than black and watching her try to sneak up up anything in all that was kind of hilarious). We had to go out there and collect her to get her back inside

 LordofHats wrote:
Man our cat loved snow (odd, cause she's blacker than black and watching her try to sneak up up anything in all that was kind of hilarious). We had to go out there and collect her to get her back inside

My dog is old he is quite stubborn and sometimes refuses to go inside. I mean.... look at him:

He never wants to go inside, I have to sometimes drag him inside. He's a Yellow Labrador its kind of his home to live in the snow. It is unnecessarily cruel to see him in the summer, he's really sad, but during the winter, he always wants to be outside. Much to my parents disapproval.

 Lockark wrote:
The horror stories that man went threw basically showed me how bad veterinarian diets can be if one does not watch their nutrition intake carefully.

Veterinarian? Do you mean vegetarian?
I have a terrible diet. About 50% pasta, tons of french fries (with ketchup and mayonnaise), pizza, very few vegetables and all that.

 LordofHats wrote:
SO what your saying is that beef is like drugs. Quitting cold turkey feths you up

yes, exactly that (well with regards to meat in general, not just beef)... there is a large amount of general good stuff that started to happen to mankind once meat was on the menu, expecially in meaningful quantities.

that, combined with the idea that our guts bacteria cultures are very much a product of what we eat, can lead to issues with cutting out any large group of food.

but, its not just meat, cutting out vegetables, legumes, oils/fats, meat, having/not having dairy, can all be bad for you... and in some cases good for you

what I find interesting is that some people can just eat anything, from mouldy cheese (mmm brie) to raw meat (mmmm steak au poivre tartar)

while some people die from eating peanuts, or having reactions to gluten/lactose/ect

its like, I dont see one giraffe eating a leaf and keeling over while the one next to it falls over

(last sentence is in jest, I apologize to any giraffes that were offended)


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 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

I have a terrible diet. About 50% pasta, tons of french fries (with ketchup and mayonnaise), pizza, very few vegetables and all that.

yes, but how do you feel? If I asked you to run a mile, are we talking single digit minutes, double digit, or feth that!

 easysauce wrote:
(last sentence is in jest, I apologize to any giraffes that were offended)

 easysauce wrote:
yes, but how do you feel?

Well, I have been regularly depressed these days, but likely unrelated to my diet.

 easysauce wrote:
If I asked you to run a mile, are we talking single digit minutes, double digit, or feth that!

I have no idea. I am not even sure how much it does in meters. However, I go to my lab every day by bike, and it is atop a relatively steep hill. Also able to climb 5C+/6A, French notations. Not an athlete, but not a wreck either.

 Ahtman wrote:

 Orlanth wrote:
Proof again the organisation branch in the US has been thoroughly corrupted.

You keep thinking that.

Any chance you will contribute something intelligent?

Why is is head-in-sand to comment that PETA members in the US display a completely different ethos to PETA members elsewhere?

LordofHats wrote:SO what your saying is that beef is like drugs. Quitting cold turkey feths you up

It isn't just meat, but really just about anything you go a long time without changes your taste. Knew a guy who cut out all chocolate from his diet and after about a year or so couldn't stand the taste of chocalate. I would think cutting out sugar would have a similar effect.

So you're saying I need to eat 2 snickers a day instead of just 1 or else I'll hate sugar? *rushes to corner store*

 Orlanth wrote:
Why is is head-in-sand to comment that PETA members in the US display a completely different ethos to PETA members elsewhere?

Commenting that PETA in the US holds different positions than its branches elsewhere is fine, the issue is your completely unsupported claim that this is the result of infiltration by anti-PETA agents rather than sincerely-held beliefs.

LordofHats wrote:So you're saying I need to eat 2 snickers a day instead of just 1 or else I'll hate sugar? *rushes to corner store*

That is exactly what I am saying, as a person and as a fake nutritionist.

 easysauce wrote:

its like, I dont see one giraffe eating a leaf and keeling over while the one next to it falls over

(last sentence is in jest, I apologize to any giraffes that were offended)

While true, most animals have very narrow diets. If a Giraffe ate a steak he'd probably have some issues with the digestion.

We're omnivores, so we can eat just about everything. Except in rare cases of food allergies. Animals can have allergies too, its just less common.

Many cats are quite allergic to cream, and as you may have heard, cheese is actually terrible for mice. They'll eat it, but it doesn't sit well with them.

Yup, very few natural foods are that high in protein and fat. Which can upset digestive systems not used to it.

If you want to give your cat a treat, just give them a very small sliver of meat(no bigger than your thumb nail). Only kittens should have milk.

 LordofHats wrote:
cheese is actually terrible for mice. They'll eat it, but it doesn't sit well with them.

Considering that we tend to use it in mouse traps.... no gak it doesn't "sit well" with them


Also, if you pay attention to anatomy, ours is closer to that of dogs, bears, and other "carnivorous" creatures, and I've seen quite a few places where it's been explicitly said that we humans are designed to NOT be vegetarians. If you look at a truly vegetarian animal, you'll see some similarities with each other that we clearly don't have ie, multiple stomachs and the ability to "chew cud"


Well, really it's much more of an argument against eating any form of grain products than it is anti-vegetarian. But, I'd go so far as to say we weren't meant to be vegans

Not purely true. Not all herbivores are ruminants, which is a specialized type of herbivore.

You can be an herbivore and not be a ruminant.

 Grey Templar wrote:
If you want to give your cat a treat, just give them a very small sliver of meat(no bigger than your thumb nail).

Yep. One of our cats usually sits in the kitchen while my mom cooks (she ignores my dad because when he cooks she knows she ain't getting nothing ) and eventually she gets a tiny sliver of ham, chicken, something. Only thing she doesn't like is pork.

I got sharp meat-eating teeth, that's enough proof for me that I'm supposed to have steak!

Probably not that steak though:

She looks dead inside. I think it's the hat that killed her.

 Medium of Death wrote:
She looks dead inside. I think it's the hat that killed her.

Hey!

Hats don't kill people. People kill people!

 LordofHats wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
If you want to give your cat a treat, just give them a very small sliver of meat(no bigger than your thumb nail).

Yep. One of our cats usually sits in the kitchen while my mom cooks (she ignores my dad because when he cooks she knows she ain't getting nothing ) and eventually she gets a tiny sliver of ham, chicken, something. Only thing she doesn't like is pork.

Our cats beg just like a dog would.

We can't leave dishes on the table because they'll hop up while our back is turned and steal leftovers(or raid the butter dish)

 LordofHats wrote:

 Medium of Death wrote:
She looks dead inside. I think it's the hat that killed her.

Hey!

Hats don't kill people. People kill people!

People kill animals.

Tasty tasty animals...

Animals kill people. Mostly very, very small animals called… the ebola viruses .

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Animals kill people. Mostly very, very small animals called… the ebola viruses .

Viruses aren't animals nor are they living.

Dingos kill people, especially little people.

 Cheesecat wrote:
Viruses aren't animals nor are they living.

I know. Thanks for spoiling the joke .