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2014/12/23 17:18:01
Subject: "Stop Gun Violence" A PSA that is just stupid
Ok, So does not only does this kid put his finger over the trigger(Its fake in shooting, but real in the video) but keeps a gun on him in class, with the magazine in it and shows it and shoves it down infront of the teacher.
How does a mother havinng a gun preclude a safe enviroment? I would feel more safe with a gun in my house.
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2014/12/23 17:22:26
Subject: Re:"Stop Gun Violence" A PSA that is just stupid
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Looks like the Gun Control movement just went full pants on head stupid.
If it didn't involve a kid getting hurt I would hope someone actually followed their advice and hurt someone doing it just to show how stupid this idea is.
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Let's see...
1) Theft of a firearm
2) Minor in Possession of a Firearm
3) Unlicensed Concealed Carry of a Firearm
4) Unlawful Possession of a Firearm on a school campus
5) Brandishing
6) Theft of a Firearm by Receiving
7) Conspiracy to commit Firearm Crimes (RICO)
8) Gun Trafficing (assuming enough minors follow the video)
9) Am I missing any? This started in San Fransico, CA!
At this point the minor, if tried as an adult and if charged with all crimes could easily get more than 100 years behind bars. Boggles the mind that anyone would air this video.
Absolutely deeply repugnant.
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2014/12/23 17:28:05
Subject: "Stop Gun Violence" A PSA that is just stupid
I find it remarkable that the gun was able to travel that far, and in the hands of a minor, and into a school without hurting, well, anyone.
I mean, there was no violence to actually stop. Certainly no GUN violence. I guess theft isn't a violent crime, though the ones whembly mentioned are pretty bad ones to get mixed up in.
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I going to be all over Fox News wanting to see the idiot that tries this.
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2014/12/23 18:48:36
Subject: Re:"Stop Gun Violence" A PSA that is just stupid
I don't think I've ever met a kid that wouldn't be like 'sweet, a gun to play with'. Unless they're an idealistic wannabe hippie that read about how guns are bad on some blog, but those kids are stupid anyways. So I mean, teaching kids to be safe and responsible sure.
Every once and a while you read about a kid bringing a gun to school, but it's always something dumb like their friends made them do it on a dare.
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2014/12/23 19:00:04
Subject: Re:"Stop Gun Violence" A PSA that is just stupid
Let's see...
1) Theft of a firearm
2) Minor in Possession of a Firearm
3) Unlicensed Concealed Carry of a Firearm
4) Unlawful Possession of a Firearm on a school campus
5) Brandishing
6) Theft of a Firearm by Receiving
7) Conspiracy to commit Firearm Crimes (RICO)
8) Gun Trafficing (assuming enough minors follow the video)
9) Am I missing any? This started in San Fransico, CA!
At this point the minor, if tried as an adult and if charged with all crimes could easily get more than 100 years behind bars. Boggles the mind that anyone would air this video.
Absolutely deeply repugnant.
10) Possession of stolen property
11) Receiving stolen property(separate from receiving a stolen firearm)
12) Reckless Endangerment
Thats what I could think of.
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2014/12/24 00:19:27
Subject: "Stop Gun Violence" A PSA that is just stupid
Ahtman wrote: Is this one of those PSAs that is so bad it will become a classic?
Spoiler:
I'll see you that and raise you this:
Spoiler:
Thats one of those things where you have to ask,
Did someone really do that? I mean REALLY?
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DarkLink wrote: I don't think I've ever met a kid that wouldn't be like 'sweet, a gun to play with'.
And yet, kids get shot and/or killed all the time because of access to unsecured firearms.
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2014/12/24 00:51:19
Subject: "Stop Gun Violence" A PSA that is just stupid
Overread wrote: Issued by the British Unused Condom Association - BUCA -
For those overseas who might not get this, is confirms that the video is indeed genuine example of authentic British Comedy
Edit - that its cheaper and the meeting is on the moors and the guy is wearing a flatcap is also a poke at how tight fisted people are in Yorkshire
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2014/12/24 01:01:22
Subject: Re:"Stop Gun Violence" A PSA that is just stupid
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2014/12/24 01:17:28
Subject: "Stop Gun Violence" A PSA that is just stupid
Soo'Vah'Cha wrote: For a moment I thought the kid was gonna drop the piece on the table and say..
"Ok teach..about those F's you gave me..."
Actually
Kids these days are more..devious...
I would notionally kill my kid if they take one of my weapons to school and use this PSA as justification to get a "Holiday" month off.
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2014/12/24 01:32:03
Subject: Re:"Stop Gun Violence" A PSA that is just stupid
Let's see...
1) Theft of a firearm
2) Minor in Possession of a Firearm
3) Unlicensed Concealed Carry of a Firearm
4) Unlawful Possession of a Firearm on a school campus
5) Brandishing
6) Theft of a Firearm by Receiving
7) Conspiracy to commit Firearm Crimes (RICO)
8) Gun Trafficing (assuming enough minors follow the video)
9) Am I missing any? This started in San Fransico, CA!
At this point the minor, if tried as an adult and if charged with all crimes could easily get more than 100 years behind bars. Boggles the mind that anyone would air this video.
Absolutely deeply repugnant.
RICO has nothing to do with gun violence, or any firearm crimes. It's an acronym. It stands for "Racketeering Influenced Corrupt Organizations"... it's meant to point to the Mafia and other Organized Crime syndicates.
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2014/12/24 02:43:01
Subject: Re:"Stop Gun Violence" A PSA that is just stupid
Let's see...
1) Theft of a firearm
2) Minor in Possession of a Firearm
3) Unlicensed Concealed Carry of a Firearm
4) Unlawful Possession of a Firearm on a school campus
5) Brandishing
6) Theft of a Firearm by Receiving
7) Conspiracy to commit Firearm Crimes (RICO)
8) Gun Trafficing (assuming enough minors follow the video)
9) Am I missing any? This started in San Fransico, CA!
At this point the minor, if tried as an adult and if charged with all crimes could easily get more than 100 years behind bars. Boggles the mind that anyone would air this video.
Absolutely deeply repugnant.
Are you sure about #2? I don't think that's a crime, Guns are marketed towards kids and "responsible" gun owners buy guns for their 5 year old kids. and I forget how old was the girl at the shooting range with a semi automatic weapon?
and I think #3 varies by state, in some you don't need a license to conceal carry.
2014/12/24 02:45:39
Subject: Re:"Stop Gun Violence" A PSA that is just stupid
Let's see...
1) Theft of a firearm
2) Minor in Possession of a Firearm
3) Unlicensed Concealed Carry of a Firearm
4) Unlawful Possession of a Firearm on a school campus
5) Brandishing
6) Theft of a Firearm by Receiving
7) Conspiracy to commit Firearm Crimes (RICO)
8) Gun Trafficing (assuming enough minors follow the video)
9) Am I missing any? This started in San Fransico, CA!
At this point the minor, if tried as an adult and if charged with all crimes could easily get more than 100 years behind bars. Boggles the mind that anyone would air this video.
Absolutely deeply repugnant.
Are you sure about #2? I don't think that's a crime, Guns are marketed towards kids and "responsible" gun owners buy guns for their 5 year old kids. and I forget how old was the girl at the shooting range with a semi automatic weapon?
and I think #3 varies by state, in some you don't need a license to conceal carry.
Think he mixed it up with purchasing with #2
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2014/12/24 03:23:27
Subject: Re:"Stop Gun Violence" A PSA that is just stupid
DarkLink wrote: I don't think I've ever met a kid that wouldn't be like 'sweet, a gun to play with'.
And yet, kids get shot and/or killed all the time because of access to unsecured firearms.
...no gak. Because the kids find the gun and play with them, not hand them over to their teachers. Hence my comment that you should teach your kids to safely handle any firearms rather than play with them.
As for "all the time", if you're concerned with unsafe behaviors hurting your children, you should be more worried about car accidents, drinking household chemicals, drowning in a swimming pool, or one of any number of things off a very long list of preventable causes of death that kills more kids than firearm ownership does. Pools alone kill something like a hundred kids for every kid accidentally killed or injured by a firearm.
Moral of the story, there's no reason to be concerned about owning a gun with kids in the home, but you should still be responsible and either lock them up or teach the kids to safely handle the firearm, preferably both.
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2014/12/24 07:37:22
Subject: Re:"Stop Gun Violence" A PSA that is just stupid
Here's an article from Yahoo! Parenting of all places that touches on what's been said here. All aboard the crazy train, people.
Jennifer O'Neill wrote:'Monumentally Stupid' Anti-Gun PSA Urges Kids to Steal Parents’ Firearms
For once, gun control advocates and gun rights groups agree — they’re fired up about a new video that urges kids to steal their parents’ guns and hand them over to teachers at school.
The controversial Dec. 13 clip from Sleeper 13 Productions in San Francisco, titled “Stop Gun Violence - PSA,” shows a teenage boy take a handgun from his mother’s dresser drawer, stash it in his backpack, and bring it to class. Walking up to his teacher after the period ends, the student slaps the gun on her desk. “Can you take this away?” the child actor asks the shocked teacher. “I don’t feel safe with a gun in my house.”
Then the messages “Our children deserve a safe world” and “Stop gun violence now” are plastered onscreen before production credits run, notably lacking any sponsors or collaborating organizations.
The nearly 3-minute video has been viewed more than 320,000 times since it was released on YouTube 10 days ago, and it has prompted over 6,300 comments, the majority of them critical. More than 18,000 viewers gave it a thumbs-down, compared to just 138 “likes,” one of which applauded the piece as “truly inspiring.”
Irresponsible is more like it, wrote another commentator: “This encourages children to lie and steal. It endangers the children and others, and puts them at risk by encouraging them to handle weapons they probably haven’t had any training with.” Yet another critic weighed in: “Gun safety isn’t about getting people to ‘steal’ guns and give them away but teaching people, children, adults, whomever about gun safety.”
The Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms even put out a press release detailing the number of crimes depicted in the piece. “We’re talking about felony theft of a firearm, illegal possession of a handgun by a minor, having a gun in a school, illegal concealed carry by a minor, brandishing and maybe one or two other crimes, depending upon the jurisdiction,” wrote chairman Alan Gottlieb on Dec. 22. “… At the very least, the boy in this video would wind up being arrested and face felony charges.” As should the creator, Gottlieb continued: “The message of this video is so monumentally stupid that if any youth does something like this after watching it, the producers should face charges.”
But the filmmaker, Rejina Sincic, told Yahoo Parenting that she stands by the piece and its message. “Kids shouldn’t have access to firearms in their homes,” Sincic emailed Yahoo Parenting, without responding to an inquiry about who sponsored the video. “Violent crimes have been committed by children who wrongfully had access to firearms. Society as a whole should take stricter measures to keep guns out of the hands of children.”
Is there value at least in the discussion that it raises? Dr. Paul Hokemeyer, for one, thinks so. “It doesn’t use fear in a gratuitous, salacious way,” the family therapist told Yahoo Parenting. “Parents can use this as a tool to open a dialogue with their children about gun control and family well-being. They can also use it to let their children know they have a voice that is heard and respected.”
The real danger in this video, says one gun control advocate, is in the unsaid. “Who paid for this and what are their motivations?” asked the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence Communications Director Ladd Everitt, noting that “zillions” of people post videos expressing their position on guns. “I’m suspicious, considering it only started to get coverage after right-wing media seized on it.” All the uproar this video has raised is “sad,” he continued. “It’s working up good people who mean well and really support gun control.”