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It is pronounced "Deemon" because the "ae" is pronounced as an "ee", just lke in Archaeology. However, "Daymon" is still considered an excepted alternate pronunciation.

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even then, like daemon, the latin pronunciation for Archaeology (yes, I know it isn't technically isn't a latin word, though it comes from one: archaeologia) is different to the English one (Ark-igh instead of ark-ee)

So really, it comes down to if you prefer the normal, English pronunciation or the in-universe, Latin (High Gothic) one.

I can see why most prefer the English way and not look like a total prat to those who don't know it's pronounced differently in Latin



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We pronounce it DAAAAAYMUN. In a loud sorta southern drawl squealing voice. As a joke. Deemon Princes are pronounced as such

 
   
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Google says that Daemon is pronounced as Deemon. On the matter of aegis, it's eejis. This is all according to Google.

Another thing to consider is the name, Caesar.

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Though, in Latin they're pronounced differently; Aegis is igh-gis (I'm guessing Google gave you the English pronunciation).
Similarly, Caesar is pronounced Kigh-zar. (As in Julius Caesar, the Chef and the salad though are pronounced see-zar)

Which I suppose makes daemon's latin pronunciation weird since it's different to every other word.

Maybe we have it all wrong and it was actually pronounced (and therefore should be pronounced?) Digh-mon

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Day-mon

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Sometimes I'll pronounce it either way, depending on context, but most of the time its Day-mun.

I.E. Daemon Engine "Day-mun"

Possessed by a Daemon "Demon"

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 Icculus wrote:
Theater, Theatre
Humor, Humour
Shop, Shoppe
Demon, Daemon
Aesthetic, Esthetic
Disc, Disk

These words all have the same pronunciation and mean the same thing. They are just spelled differently.

Daemons are Demons, but to spell it Daemon gives it a more latin feel to it.


No, there's a difference. Daemon refers to Greek/Latin spirits, typically nature related and could either be good or evil. Demon purely refers to an evil spirit.

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Pretty sure they wanted to use æ (ash) which is pronounced either as igh, or e.
   
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 Wyzilla wrote:

The original latin pronunciation is Daymon. Not demon.


And also Greek... unless you meant Greek only.
However, I was talking of English pronounciation now.

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Denmark.

 Zande4 wrote:
 Necroagogo wrote:
How do you pronounce 'aegis'?

Deemon for me.


Ay-jus

Ay-jus?... Well thats one way I guess. I'd go with the traditional greek, Ah-e-gis.
   
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 The Wise Dane wrote:
 Zande4 wrote:
 Necroagogo wrote:
How do you pronounce 'aegis'?

Deemon for me.


Ay-jus

Ay-jus?... Well thats one way I guess. I'd go with the traditional greek, Ah-e-gis.


Dang, I read backwards. I always thought it was a-geez-is or a-Jesus.

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 Tigramans wrote:
 Wyzilla wrote:

The original latin pronunciation is Daymon. Not demon.


And also Greek... unless you meant Greek only.
However, I was talking of English pronounciation now.
I believe the Greek pronunciation is Die-mon, I don't know Greek it's just what I've read
   
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Yeah the Ancient Greeks typically pronounced it die-mon. However, certain certain regions pronounced it in other, varying ways, like thee-mon, theh-mon and deh-mon. (apparently, I haven't learnt Greek but 'tis what I've read, too)

Funny that the latin version is pronounced nothing like the Greek version even though similar words are pronounced the same (aegis, for example) and how the English version is really similar to one of the varying Greek versions.
   
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Denmark.

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Yeah the Ancient Greeks typically pronounced it die-mon. However, certain certain regions pronounced it in other, varying ways, like thee-mon, theh-mon and deh-mon. (apparently, I haven't learnt Greek but 'tis what I've read, too)

Funny that the latin version is pronounced nothing like the Greek version even though similar words are pronounced the same (aegis, for example) and how the English version is really similar to one of the varying Greek versions.

Y'all melon-fethers be wrong

I study Ancient Greek and Latin, and we've been told that the traditional greek δαίμον, which sounds like 'dai-måån' (the 'å' sound is kinda hard to explain, as it's a common letter to me, but not to you... take the first part of the word 'moan' and thats how it sounds like, basically).

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As I said, I don't study Greek so it's no wonder I'm wrong .

Not understanding IPA pronunciation key also doesn't help (and the information I found only had the pronunciation in that)

EDIT: After some additional searching I keep finding pronunciations like this (da͜ɪ́mɔːn) for the classical Ancient Greek pronunciation of δαίμων (deamon). I can't find what the symbol under aɪ means but alone aɪ is pronounced 'ie' as in pie. However I did indeed screw up before with the second part (for the classical pronunciation at least) as ɔ is pronounced 'aw', though this still doesn't match up with what The Wise Dane's been taught so I'm at a loss.

However the Koine pronunciation is dˈɛːmo̞ːn which again I completely screwed up as I don't understand IPA properly and didn't realise ɛː is different to ɛ and o̞ː is different to o̞... I'm not certain but I believe ɛː is pronounced 'ai' and I think o̞ː is 'oa', which matches up. But I'm not certain as all the examples used words from languages that weren't English so I found examples of people pronouncing those words to figure out the sounds... which means o̞ː could be 'oo'.




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 The Wise Dane wrote:
 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Yeah the Ancient Greeks typically pronounced it die-mon. However, certain certain regions pronounced it in other, varying ways, like thee-mon, theh-mon and deh-mon. (apparently, I haven't learnt Greek but 'tis what I've read, too)

Funny that the latin version is pronounced nothing like the Greek version even though similar words are pronounced the same (aegis, for example) and how the English version is really similar to one of the varying Greek versions.

Y'all melon-fethers be wrong

I study Ancient Greek and Latin, and we've been told that the traditional greek [[insert greek word when not writing on mobile]], which sounds like 'dai-måån' (the 'å' sound is kinda hard to explain, as it's a common letter to me, but not to you... take the first part of the word 'moan' and thats how it sounds like, basically).
Well you can take it up with whatever website I looked at which had the audio track which sounded like die-mon
   
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Probably the best reference:

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/daemon?searchDictCode=all

Specifically, an Archaic way of spelling of Demon:

Origin

mid 16th century: common spelling of demon until the 19th century.
   
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Denmark.

Matt.Kingsley wrote:As I said, I don't study Greek so it's no wonder I'm wrong .

Not understanding IPA pronunciation key also doesn't help (and the information I found only had the pronunciation in that)

EDIT: After some additional searching I keep finding pronunciations like this (da͜ɪ́mɔːn) for the classical Ancient Greek pronunciation of δαίμων (deamon). I can't find what the symbol under aɪ means but alone aɪ is pronounced 'ie' as in pie. However I did indeed screw up before with the second part (for the classical pronunciation at least) as ɔ is pronounced 'aw', though this still doesn't match up with what The Wise Dane's been taught so I'm at a loss.

However the Koine pronunciation is dˈɛːmo̞ːn which again I completely screwed up as I don't understand IPA properly and didn't realise ɛː is different to ɛ and o̞ː is different to o̞... I'm not certain but I believe ɛː is pronounced 'ai' and I think o̞ː is 'oa', which matches up. But I'm not certain as all the examples used words from languages that weren't English so I found examples of people pronouncing those words to figure out the sounds... which means o̞ː could be 'oo'.






AllSeeingSkink wrote:
 The Wise Dane wrote:
 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Yeah the Ancient Greeks typically pronounced it die-mon. However, certain certain regions pronounced it in other, varying ways, like thee-mon, theh-mon and deh-mon. (apparently, I haven't learnt Greek but 'tis what I've read, too)

Funny that the latin version is pronounced nothing like the Greek version even though similar words are pronounced the same (aegis, for example) and how the English version is really similar to one of the varying Greek versions.

Y'all melon-fethers be wrong

I study Ancient Greek and Latin, and we've been told that the traditional greek [[insert greek word when not writing on mobile]], which sounds like 'dai-måån' (the 'å' sound is kinda hard to explain, as it's a common letter to me, but not to you... take the first part of the word 'moan' and thats how it sounds like, basically).
Well you can take it up with whatever website I looked at which had the audio track which sounded like die-mon


Wups, my bad here - Dai-måån is the pronounciation of the pluralis genetive version of the word, the nominativ singularis (which is the base word) is dai-môhn, with a long, open "oh" sounds. The greeks loved to put the pressure firmly in specific syllables, and it's crucial to the understanding of the words...

Wasn't meant to be rude here, I just got a surge of "My line of study is actually useful for once"
   
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Daemon for me. Outside 40k, demon.

If you played w40k Space Marine, you can hear how the characters say it.

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Don't worry, it didn't come off as rude. I understand the feeling you get when something you know is actually useful.

On a side note I still got the pronunciation wrong in my edit.. heh heh. I put 'ai' instead of 'ay' for the pronunciation of ɛː... (and even then for all I know it could be 'ah')

At this point I should probably stop trying at this point because IPA is once again confusing the hell out of me
   
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Denmark.

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Don't worry, it didn't come off as rude. I understand the feeling you get when something you know is actually useful.

On a side note I still got the pronunciation wrong in my edit.. heh heh. I put 'ai' instead of 'ay' for the pronunciation of ɛː... (and even then for all I know it could be 'ah')

At this point I should probably stop trying at this point because IPA is once again confusing the hell out of me

A bit 'ε' is simply 'e', though... the 'ay' sound isn't really present in ancient greek I'm afraid :/

You weird english people and your weird pronounciations
   
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 The Wise Dane wrote:
 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Don't worry, it didn't come off as rude. I understand the feeling you get when something you know is actually useful.

On a side note I still got the pronunciation wrong in my edit.. heh heh. I put 'ai' instead of 'ay' for the pronunciation of ɛː... (and even then for all I know it could be 'ah')

At this point I should probably stop trying at this point because IPA is once again confusing the hell out of me

A bit 'ε' is simply 'e', though... the 'ay' sound isn't really present in ancient greek I'm afraid :/

You weird english people and your weird pronounciations


Oh I know ε is 'e' but apparently ɛː is different. At first I thought they were the same but then I looked further down the IPA table I had found and saw ɛː, hence my confusion. Maybe the are the same and the table I found was bad (which is most-likely the case since it was from wiktionary)

To add to that the pronunciation examples didn't even use words I'm familiar with (no English examples and honestly if they had an Indonesian examples I'd have been real surprised) and the audio clips I found with people pronouncing the examples words containing the sound varied between 'ah' and 'ay' sounds.


Now I'm really interested in all this pronunciation stuff, even if I am terrible at it
   
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Denmark.

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
 The Wise Dane wrote:
 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Don't worry, it didn't come off as rude. I understand the feeling you get when something you know is actually useful.

On a side note I still got the pronunciation wrong in my edit.. heh heh. I put 'ai' instead of 'ay' for the pronunciation of ɛː... (and even then for all I know it could be 'ah')

At this point I should probably stop trying at this point because IPA is once again confusing the hell out of me

A bit 'ε' is simply 'e', though... the 'ay' sound isn't really present in ancient greek I'm afraid :/

You weird english people and your weird pronounciations


Oh I know ε is 'e' but apparently ɛː is different. At first I thought they were the same but then I looked further down the IPA table I had found and saw ɛː, hence my confusion. Maybe the are the same and the table I found was bad (which is most-likely the case since it was from wiktionary)

To add to that the pronunciation examples didn't even use words I'm familiar with (no English examples and honestly if they had an Indonesian examples I'd have been real surprised) and the audio clips I found with people pronouncing the examples words containing the sound varied between 'ah' and 'ay' sounds.


Now I'm really interested in all this pronunciation stuff, even if I am terrible at it

It's good, I like it The problem is that you can't trust the internet to give you true information about stuff that we in no way, shape or form can know anything about for certain. My teachers are a part of the societies who study all this, so I get the newest information first, but the internet doesn't do that - We have no way to know how Latin is pronounced, and only some on how Greek was, so the pronounciation you will find on, say, Wiktionairy is based around how english and american people would pronounce it... That's not really helpful

Also, the ':' isn't used in Greek at all. ';' means '?', but ':' is just a placeholder for another sign, which I don't recognize... I think it might be a ´, and for some reason that isn' shown on the site... Weird
   
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 Necroagogo wrote:
How do you pronounce 'aegis'?

Deemon for me.


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 ImAGeek wrote:
 Crazyterran wrote:
Day men. Voted day mon cause it's closer.


Fighter of the Night Man, aaaaahh.

I say Deemon but I always spell it Daemon now, even not in Warhammer context -.- force of habit.


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