End Times: V p#23 new khorne infantry

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**-DE-**

Bloodborn Bloodwrath wielding Bloodstorm Blades. Plenty of that still.

Wrathmongers with Wrath-flails.
Wrath of Khorne Bloodthirster with Wrathaxe and Bloodflail.

It reads like a parody.

**Fayric**

-DE- wrote:
Bloodborn Bloodwrath wielding Bloodstorm Blades. Plenty of that still.

Wrathmongers with Wrath-flails.
Wrath of Khorne Bloodthirster with Wrathaxe and Bloodflail.

It reads like a parody.

Yes, the lack of "skull" names are disturbing. I feel I dont even know GW anymore.

**Shandara**

They found out they didn't have the rights to skulls, so...

**BorderCountess**

Haight wrote:
I would like to know precisely what the feth a Grand Legion of The Everchosen is, and how it differs from Legions of Chaos !

I second this (though edited for the forum). Unless they are rolling in the Skaven, I don't see what else they could be adding that the Legion of Chaos lists didn't cover.

**pities2004**

Manfred von Drakken wrote:
Haight wrote:
I would like to know precisely what the feth a Grand Legion of The Everchosen is, and how it differs from Legions of Chaos !

I second this (though edited for the forum). Unless they are rolling in the Skaven, I don't see what else they could be adding that the Legion of Chaos lists didn't cover.

New entries in this book of course.

Named blood thirsters?

**HobbyBox**

TiamatRoar wrote:

At any rate, like I said, it'd be nice if we had tabletop models that reflected the potential and possibilities more. Yes, I know that it's asking a lot for GW to make models for followers and demons based on gluttony, envy, and price (or in Tzeentch's case, ambition, revolutionaries, assassins, etc) but would it be too much to ask for GW to make just a few of those instead of yet ANOTHER angry dude or pus-filled guy? Seriously, for Glottkin, we got a nurgle champion, 3 Nurgle riders, nurgle blight kings, and the Glottkin, AND THEY ALL LOOK THE SAME TO ME. (I'm aware there are some differences but it's still "Hey, a pus filled guy riding a sack of pus, a pus filled guy, a pus filled guy riding a sack of pus, and THREE pus filled guys riding a big sack of pus!" And the new Khornate units are basically "more shirtless angry guys." when most of Warriors of Chaos (even the generic ones which are meant to be markable to any god or unmarked) are already "shirtless angry guys". Heck, Hellstriders of Slaanesh IMHO look like "shirtless angry guys".

Maybe it's too hard for the modellers to sculpt something like the halo device guy on this page (http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Life_Extension_Technologies) (not Chaos but a good example of how horrifying a Slaaneshi follower/daemon based on Gluttony could look. You'd know he's Slaaneshi and not Nurgle because he has an awesome extravagant wig, clothes, and fine wine)

I guess one possibility is that GW may roll into the Tzeentch and Slaanesh releases with the rollout of 9th Ed. Nurgle and Khorne have been ascendant throughout 8th Ed, so it makes sense that they play a larger role in the end of it all. Yet, from a fluff perspective, Tzeentch and Slaanesh may be biding their time, allowing the other two gods to deplete their forces so that they can take more control. Would be really interesting to see if Morathi and Caledor end up popping up as new characters for Slaanesh and Tzeentch (per events in Khaine) and then maybe Settra could be the Everchosen of the New Times once the cataclysm happens that ends this run.

Now, I have to admit, this all sounds too logical and interesting to be part of GWs plan, but figured I would throw out the ideas anyway.

**BorderCountess**

pities2004 wrote:
Manfred von Drakken wrote:
Haight wrote:
I would like to know precisely what the feth a Grand Legion of The Everchosen is, and how it differs from Legions of Chaos !

I second this (though edited for the forum). Unless they are rolling in the Skaven, I don't see what else they could be adding that the Legion of Chaos lists didn't cover.

New entries in this book of course.

Named blood thirsters?

From what I've seen, everything that's not Archaon Updated(tm) can be taken in a Legion of Chaos, including all three new Bloodthirsters. And I don't see the point in creating a whole new list just for Archaon Updated. There's got to be something more.

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HobbyBox wrote:
... and then maybe Settra could be the Everchosen of the New Times...

Aside from the apparent nonsense of Tyrion coming back (nearing the end of ET: Khaine at the moment), the part Settra gets to play in this is my biggest question.

**nels1031**

Grand Army of the Everchosen may be like that Chaos list from Storm of Chaos that could take double the points allowance.

Could also be a modified list that removes all the poorer quality troops and substitutes them with the elite of all 3(4 if skaven included?) Chaos army books. Lorewise the good guys have been getting whooped, but they've given as much as they got, all things considered, which would leave a solid, elite core surrounding Archaon.

**Arbitrator**

I expect the Grand Army will just be Legions of Chaos + New Archaon models + Skaven.

**Prestor Jon**

The fact that the Host of Light contains no Bretonnians is probably not a good thing for that range. I was hoping that at least the plastic knight kit would be included but unless Knights of the Realm now count as a Knightly Order I guess they all got squatted by Hive Fleet Archaon.

**Haight**

pities2004 wrote:
Manfred von Drakken wrote:
Haight wrote:
I would like to know precisely what the feth a Grand Legion of The Everchosen is, and how it differs from Legions of Chaos !

I second this (though edited for the forum). Unless they are rolling in the Skaven, I don't see what else they could be adding that the Legion of Chaos lists didn't cover.

New entries in this book of course.

Named blood thirsters?

No need. You just put a blurb in there that says "May be taken in Chaos Daemons, or Legions of Chaos" like they have with many other models.

I'm thinking its the inclusion of Skaven in some manner... not sure if wholesale like the Legion / Host lists or not, but probably close to it.

**Shas'O Dorian**

katfude wrote:
Worst part to me is that it looks like O+G and OK aren't technically merged either, they might just be allied armies with all the allied restrictions, but Grimgor can just buff OK as well. Hope they prove me wrong as I stumbled into a 4k O+G army for only $200 bucks a couple months ago, but my first and true love is OK.

There are rumours of an allies matrix along the lines of what 40k has. (Dear sweet merciful GabeN who art in Bellevue please make this not true.)

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The thirstsrs are:

Bloodthirster of unfettered fury
Bloodthirster of insensate rage
Wrath of khorne bloodthirster

At least we didnt get sanguine bloodthirster of raging fury

**Charles Rampant**

I really enjoy Games Workshop's naming trends lately. They are clearly just revelling in bad names at this point. I mean, Wrathmongers; the guys who sell (mong, like fishmongers) their wrath. Only the Warhammer world would have such a need of wrath that you could actually sell it.

**Azreal13**

The issue with the comic names, which has a long history and deep heritage with GW, is that, much like any sort of humour, it Works at least partially on how the receiver is predisposed to it.

If everything was fine and rosy in GW World and the atmosphere around the games was largely positive, there'd be much nudging, winking and "oh, GW, you so silly."

But I'm afraid the atmosphere doesn't quite seem to be that, and hence silly names are more often greeted with "for feths sake GW."

To me, I feel less like they're having a joke with us and more like they're taking the piss.

**Kanluwen**

What are they supposed to call them?

Serious question here, do people expect them to just call them by descriptive names or what?

**Charles Rampant**

You may have a point. "Khornate Angry Shirtless Men with Flails" would probably take up too much space on the box.

**Platuan4th**

Charles Rampant wrote:
I really enjoy Games Workshop's naming trends lately. They are clearly just revelling in bad names at this point. I mean, Wrathmongers; the guys who sell (mong, like fishmongers) their wrath. Only the Warhammer world would have such a need of wrath that you could actually sell it.

Magic is just as bad. Born of the Gods had the Ragemonger and Mercadian Masques had Mongers as a Creature type.

**ImAGeek**

Kanluwen wrote:
What are they supposed to call them?

Serious question here, do people expect them to just call them by descriptive names or what?

I'm with you, I dunno what else you would call them. It's different when it's Space Wolves and every other word is a variation on Wolf, but things like this, yeah its a little silly but what else would you call them?

**TiamatRoar**

Maybe take a cue from Forgeworld's /Black LIbrary's naming conventions? For their Space Marine special units, we get Immortals, Ashen Circle, Gal Vorbak, Palatine Blades, Kakophonie (compare to Noise Marines, I guess), Templar Brethren, Phalanx Warder Squad...

Since it's Khorne, I guess you could look at Forgeworld's units there to take a guess. From there we have Red Butchers and Marauder Squads. Hell, Beserkers from regular CSM, even. While not as exquisite as other names of Forge World units, Khorne was never an exquisite kind of guy. These are short, to the point, and IMHO not as goofy as Wrathmongers.

**Azreal13**

Ok, off the top of my head

Order of the Bloodied Chain
Disciples Of Wrath
Deathflails
Bloodreaper Fanatics

Anything that isn't "Xers" of "X" with their "X weapon of X-ness"

**catharsix**

Is there any word yet on the prices of the new kits? I've been waiting for a plastic Bloodthirster forever, and those Wrathbloodskullkillmongers will probably be worth picking up for conversion material... I need to know how much/what to set aside for the purchase. Will my firstborn be sufficient?

-C6

**Shas'O Dorian**

Probably between $90 & $110 as that is where the verminlords, nagash & glottkin fall. The thirster is said to be "Almost as big as nagash" so I'd say at least $100 probably $125 at the max.

**Slayer le boucher**

Yeah sadest part of this, 100$ for a S6 model with a 5++ save and no real Special rules apart the basic FMC pack...

If at least it would have some kind of special attack like " Ground Shatter- once per CC phase the BT can choose to forfeit his attacks to make a single attack that hits all models in a 8" straigth line and 2" wide, each model takes a Hit that use the Smash rules and commotion.

Even so 100$...ugh...

**insaniak**

Charles Rampant wrote:
I really enjoy Games Workshop's naming trends lately. They are clearly just revelling in bad names at this point. I mean, Wrathmongers; the guys who sell (mong, like fishmongers) their wrath. Only the Warhammer world would have such a need of wrath that you could actually sell it.

'Monger' is more dealer' than 'seller'.

So they deal in wrath.

Wrath is their business. Business is... etc...

**pities2004**

Slayer le boucher wrote:
Yeah sadest part of this, 100$ for a S6 model with a 5++ save and no real Special rules apart the basic FMC pack...

If at least it would have some kind of special attack like " Ground Shatter- once per CC phase the BT can choose to forfeit his attacks to make a single attack that hits all models in a 8" straigth line and 2" wide, each model takes a Hit that use the Smash rules and commotion.

Even so 100$...ugh...

It's gonna be huge,

plus the current model is pretty bad

**Fayric**

insaniak wrote:
Charles Rampant wrote:
I really enjoy Games Workshop's naming trends lately. They are clearly just revelling in bad names at this point. I mean, Wrathmongers; the guys who sell (mong, like fishmongers) their wrath. Only the Warhammer world would have such a need of wrath that you could actually sell it.

'Monger' is more dealer' than 'seller'.

So they deal in wrath.

Wrath is their business. Business is... etc...

Agree.
Though english is not my native tounge I would guess you are supposed to think more of "warmongers" than "fishmongers".
The silliness comes when they keep repeating the same word in equipment and special rules.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

While it sounds silly I suspect it's done (at least in part) to help new players associate rules and units

the bitetysnappers all have the biteysnapper special rule etc

it's got to help especially for those not playing in their native language now GW is doing less translation/localisation

**SeanDrake**

pities2004 wrote:
Slayer le boucher wrote:
Yeah sadest part of this, 100$ for a S6 model with a 5++ save and no real Special rules apart the basic FMC pack...

If at least it would have some kind of special attack like " Ground Shatter- once per CC phase the BT can choose to forfeit his attacks to make a single attack that hits all models in a 8" straigth line and 2" wide, each model takes a Hit that use the Smash rules and commotion.

Even so 100$...ugh...

It's gonna be huge,

plus the current model is pretty bad

It does seem to reinforce gw position that they sell mass produced collectors items and not gaming models, because while I would buy one to paint given there current rules it would never see the table unless I need a handy cannonball catcher.

**Solis Luna Astrum**

I don't play fantasy anymore and I don't play chaos, but I'll be buying one because I think it's a great looking model.

**highlord tamburlaine**

I just got a pretty decent not- Bloodthirster in the Bones expansions but it's not big enough to go toe to toe (claw to claw?) with my Verminlord or other recent GW monsters, so I'll still probably end up getting one of these.

I do hope that there's something to help keep him stable other than one tiny foot to support that massive body and giant wings. It worries me...