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 Desubot wrote:
I really like the flaming chaos symbol whip

Man i wonder if they are gona feth up the keeper of secrets if they ever redo it :(

Well, I imagine it will have one boob underneath a spiked armor plate. It definitely won't be like Forgeworld's, I can tell you that.


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Solis Luna Astrum wrote:

 Quarterdime wrote:
Well, seeing as how there's no option to build Skarbrand... oh who am I kidding this has been a long time coming. Now the desperate masses will stop having to use balrogs, ultraforge (which is what I'd use) and that god-awful 3rd edition sculpt.

Now let's see the other 3!

I ordered one today and I'm really tempted to build it as Scarbrand. A pretty easy conversion I think.

To be honest I don't see such an endeavor as being worth it. Maybe if you buy 2 of them just for the extra one-handed axe, or cast your own copy of it, and then use the Zombie Dragon wings... Alright, but make sure you paint it up nice.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I'm almost tempted to buy two!

But two in the same army would look too "look, we're in matching poses!" which makes no sense for organic (or daemonic) creatures - it certainly doesn't look a very poseable model, short of a lot of green stuff and cutting :( For such a high price, GW could at least provide a better choice of limbs and heads etc.

The balanced-on-one-toe pose is also just asking to get broken the first time it's transported. But maybe it could be re-based with both soles flat on a pile of rocks (or bloody corpses ) as if about to push off for another charge?

 Clang wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I'm almost tempted to buy two!

But two in the same army would look too "look, we're in matching poses!"

It's just to further emphasise the ballet dancer pose, synchronised ballet dancers.

According to Mr Kirby @ GW they're a collectable- pah! who's going to transport them?! lol

 Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:
I'm hoping that if the two-handed axe gets rules for 40k its x2 strength, two-handed, with maybe armorbane to boot.

Sure, but only if you roll the corresponding D6 result on the Bloodthirster Ragewrath Table:

1-2 Wrath of Khorne. The Bloodthirster is a Wrath of Khorne Bloodthirster. If you do not have a Wrath of Khorne Bloodthirster model the Bloodthirster is destroyed.
3-4 Unfettered Fury. The Bloodthirster is a Bloodthirster of Unfettered Fury. If you do not have a Bloodthirster of Unfettered Fury model the Bloodthirster is destroyed.
5 Insensate Rage. The Bloodthirster is a Bloodthirster of Insensate Rage. If you do not have a Bloodthirster of Insensate Rage model the Bloodthirster is destroyed.
6 Kaldor Draigo. SURPRISE fethers! The Bloodthirster was destroyed in transit by Kaldor Draigo. Immediately deploy Kaldor Draigo via Deep Strike under the control of the opposing player. If you do not have a Kaldor Draigo model for your opponent to use your entire army is destroyed.

 Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:
I'm hoping that if the two-handed axe gets rules for 40k its x2 strength, two-handed, with maybe armorbane to boot.

Nah, GWs MO would make it uwieldy, S+1, mastercrafted, monsterhunter (WD say its crafted to hunt down monsters).

By the way, the fantasy thirsters new stats dont change them from armybook thirsters, right? Just some minor weapon updates.
This is a question not a statement, because I dont really play fantasy.
Are the new profiles hot, or not?

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
Ragewrath

*slow clap*

 Fayric wrote:

 Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:
I'm hoping that if the two-handed axe gets rules for 40k its x2 strength, two-handed, with maybe armorbane to boot.

Nah, GWs MO would make it uwieldy, S+1, mastercrafted, monsterhunter (WD say its crafted to hunt down monsters).

By the way, the fantasy thirsters new stats dont change them from armybook thirsters, right? Just some minor weapon updates.
This is a question not a statement, because I dont really play fantasy.
Are the new profiles hot, or not?

New profiles are all the same. 10, 10, 6, 6, 5, 9, 6, 9.

 Kirasu wrote:
It's like saying the only way to be a patriot is to have 14 tattoos of the American flag on your body. It's childish but in line with what we expect from gw ideas nowadays.

A blood thirster doesn't need khorne runes everywhere. He shows his devotion cause he's a damn greater demon of his god...it's IMPLIED that he's pro-khorne

I don't have a problem with runes every where...I think it looks cool.

You forget that this demon is a fanatic killer who live to serve khorne...it is understandable to be this devoted.

Fanatics sit around and mark themself about their fanaticism ...example Christians fanatics with crosses all over or Latin gangster with the virgin on his back and jesus all over.

The yakuza gangster have tattoos all over to symbolise his devotion to the gang. The tribes of zomoa warriors ink themself for devotion and protection...this is very common among warrior and people who risk their lives in their carees like soldiers and gangsters, and I am surprise that you guys are making a fuss.

Who says the daemons even have a choice about the markings?

If I was an all powerful chaos god, I would put my initials on everything too.
Nice face you have there... put a giant "K" on it. Put one on your stomach too; every time you look down, I want you to remember who owns that gak.

How large is the Bloodthirster, exactly?

They could be branded by Korne in his weapons forge. Proof of ownership like a Shepard herding demonic sheep.

Plus, don't all the chaos gods have kinda massive ego's?

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Clang wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I'm almost tempted to buy two!

But two in the same army would look too "look, we're in matching poses!"

It's just to further emphasise the ballet dancer pose, synchronised ballet dancers.

Also, since when did Bloodthirsters have rocket engines in their hooves?

 angelofvengeance wrote:
According to Mr Kirby @ GW they're a collectable- pah! who's going to transport them?! lol

Even though that logic fails, I'm still happy that aesthetic isn't being sacrificed for practicality. I know a lot of people are for it, but I'd rather buy something that looks expansive and natural than something that looks restrained and can fit in a box.

 Quarterdime wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
According to Mr Kirby @ GW they're a collectable- pah! who's going to transport them?! lol

Even though that logic fails, I'm still happy that aesthetic isn't being sacrificed for practicality. I know a lot of people are for it, but I'd rather buy something that looks expansive and natural than something that looks restrained and can fit in a box.

QFT...we got a winner here folks!

Honestly, I myself have never seen symbols incorporated with wings on any other mini like that before. People are making a stink about it cause it's something different, and with the proper paint job they can look anywhere between subtle and explicit as the examples show. I see it as innovative, good on GW for thinking outside the box and not giving the 'thirster generic evil wings.

And especially for incorporating the undivided symbol too, it's a nice touch few god-specific minis seem to get. Helps tie them all together.

 scuzz_bucket wrote:
Honestly, I myself have never seen symbols incorporated with wings on any other mini like that before. People are making a stink about it cause it's something different, and with the proper paint job they can look anywhere between subtle and explicit as the examples show. I see it as innovative, good on GW for thinking outside the box and not giving the 'thirster generic evil wings.

And especially for incorporating the undivided symbol too, it's a nice touch few god-specific minis seem to get. Helps tie them all together.

It's not outside the box when it closely follows a standard that they've been applying to everything.



For a little perspective, imagine a modern American soldier with an American flag in the same places you see the symbol of Tau in this picture.

 Quarterdime wrote:

 scuzz_bucket wrote:
Honestly, I myself have never seen symbols incorporated with wings on any other mini like that before. People are making a stink about it cause it's something different, and with the proper paint job they can look anywhere between subtle and explicit as the examples show. I see it as innovative, good on GW for thinking outside the box and not giving the 'thirster generic evil wings.

And especially for incorporating the undivided symbol too, it's a nice touch few god-specific minis seem to get. Helps tie them all together.

It's not outside the box when it closely follows a standard that they've been applying to everything.

Spoiler:

For a little perspective, imagine a modern American soldier with an American flag in the same places you see the symbol of Tau in this picture.

Are we going to pretend that a Fireblade is a rank and file soldier?

And honestly, it's not that hard to imagine. You wouldn't see a "modern American soldier" wearing a cape, but it's not something unheard of to see soldiers with a flag on their torso and shoulder.

...and crotch plate...

Yeah, okay fine. There's one on the belt buckle.


Doesn't change my point though. The Tau Empire isn't America or any modern nation.

I don't think it was said, but the obvious reason the wings have runes strewn across them is for branding purposes. And not scar branding purposes (lulz). You can't use those wings on a PP mini for tournaments. And I'm sure you'd ruin the aesthetic of other minis, unless they're GW game conversions, with them plastered.

So by simply adding a bunch of stupid symbols everywhere, they kill the bits market. /conspiracy (but probably true given the metric ton of hammering on IP).

While it's an organic beast, I bet it's not bigger than most of the other big meanies it's size in equivalent metal/resin from a multitude of other manufacturers. Massive rip off and looks ungodly to transport for play purposes without a liberal use of magnets and consideration for brass rodding it to a base.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Yeah, okay fine. There's one on the belt buckle.


Doesn't change my point though. The Tau Empire isn't America or any modern nation.

Indeed its not. Its just another fantasy race based on anime concepts... In the case of GW its spammed to death with some feature... Skulls, runes... tau symbols. Point is spam is rarely a good design choice just a rather lazy one.

The stupid thing about the gigantic runes on the wings is that its going to be one of the main things you will constantly see on the model due to its position. For that price I want something more special, not something that needs hours of resculpting.

And sorry for those that are unable to understand the basic concept of different tastes.

This is an amazing model!

Surpised there is so much banter over Khorne marking on a Khorne model.

I checked ebay, there are over a dozen alternate (unmarked) wings that'd work with this. With the help of some green stuff. $9-$24. The LOTR balrog wings, tyranid wings, dragon wings via gw are $11, balrog on gw $11....

You could trade or sell khornate wings easily on ebay/local game group....

 Quarterdime wrote:

 scuzz_bucket wrote:
Honestly, I myself have never seen symbols incorporated with wings on any other mini like that before. People are making a stink about it cause it's something different, and with the proper paint job they can look anywhere between subtle and explicit as the examples show. I see it as innovative, good on GW for thinking outside the box and not giving the 'thirster generic evil wings.

And especially for incorporating the undivided symbol too, it's a nice touch few god-specific minis seem to get. Helps tie them all together.

It's not outside the box when it closely follows a standard that they've been applying to everything.

Spoiler:

For a little perspective, imagine a modern American soldier with an American flag in the same places you see the symbol of Tau in this picture.

What I mean is the application of symbols/images in wing membranes.

 scuzz_bucket wrote:
Honestly, I myself have never seen symbols incorporated with wings on any other mini like that before.

Also, part of the appeal of Warhammer is the heroic aspect of the scuplts and imagery. You're right, any modern soldier would look ridiculous like that, but we're talking about heroic fantasy/sci-fi miniatures.

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

 Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:
I'm hoping that if the two-handed axe gets rules for 40k its x2 strength, two-handed, with maybe armorbane to boot.

Sure, but only if you roll the corresponding D6 result on the Bloodthirster Ragewrath Table:

1-2 Wrath of Khorne. The Bloodthirster is a Wrath of Khorne Bloodthirster. If you do not have a Wrath of Khorne Bloodthirster model the Bloodthirster is destroyed.
3-4 Unfettered Fury. The Bloodthirster is a Bloodthirster of Unfettered Fury. If you do not have a Bloodthirster of Unfettered Fury model the Bloodthirster is destroyed.
5 Insensate Rage. The Bloodthirster is a Bloodthirster of Insensate Rage. If you do not have a Bloodthirster of Insensate Rage model the Bloodthirster is destroyed.
6 Kaldor Draigo. SURPRISE fethers! The Bloodthirster was destroyed in transit by Kaldor Draigo. Immediately deploy Kaldor Draigo via Deep Strike under the control of the opposing player. If you do not have a Kaldor Draigo model for your opponent to use your entire army is destroyed.

it comes with a large oval 40k MC base too, shown in vidya below:

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/03/wow-bloodthirster-minis-glory.html

GW never fail to impress with their large kits. One of the things I still love seeing them produce, and the Bloodthirster is absolutely no exception.

But feth, that price.

Creature casters new daemons should be ready.... Soonish, including this angry deamon


Not sure what retail will be, but solid resin, kickstarter was90CAD or approx $75.

 Theophony wrote:
Creature casters new daemons should be ready.... Soonish, including this angry deamon


Not sure what retail will be, but solid resin, kickstarter was90CAD or approx $75.

Can't wait for that to ship because, unlike GWs one, the basic anatomy looks good. Also I love the idea that the weapon is organic as well instead of having to have chaos dwarves make weapons and armour for them.

 NAVARRO wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Yeah, okay fine. There's one on the belt buckle.


Doesn't change my point though. The Tau Empire isn't America or any modern nation.

Indeed its not. Its just another fantasy race based on anime concepts... In the case of GW its spammed to death with some feature... Skulls, runes... tau symbols. Point is spam is rarely a good design choice just a rather lazy one.

The stupid thing about the gigantic runes on the wings is that its going to be one of the main things you will constantly see on the model due to its position. For that price I want something more special, not something that needs hours of resculpting.

And sorry for those that are unable to understand the basic concept of different tastes.

It is unfair to compare Tau to American GI. You should be comparing Tau made by GW games to super heroes from comic books. Like This.....