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Oh, and Sigmar. Does he get an update, or is it still the Karl Ascended statline?

changemod wrote:
Oh, and Sigmar. Does he get an update, or is it still the Karl Ascended statline?

Still the Ascended.

Didn't we see a leak of Archaon's rules a while back ?

I vaguely remember thinking "well, he seems mostly the same to me", but it was a fuzzy pic where you couldn't read all of it.


I might be wrong, but i'm almost sure on that. I remember seeing that he's like 860 or 865 points or something.

I think the biggest change was that Archaon is a L4.

 Bonesnapper wrote:
Is it just me or doesn't swinging great hammers in chains or having long chains from your axe seem to be a perfect way to knock yourself unconscious or make yourself trip?

In my opinion it gets silly.

Of course it's silly. They've been putting out a lot of kits over the last few years full of stuff that would better fit into an 80s Saturday morning cartoon, and not any of the good ones. Geez, at 7, I'd have been shaking my head at some of the ridiculous dog squeeze they've been designing lately.

 Kanluwen wrote:
I think the biggest change was that Archaon is a L4.

That and the Reign of Chaos rolls thing are the changes I see, but I haven't put both profiles next to each other yet to really compare.

 Bonesnapper wrote:
Is it just me or doesn't swinging great hammers in chains or having long chains from your axe seem to be a perfect way to knock yourself unconscious or make yourself trip?

When you have a hammer plastic sculpt, every problem looks like a flowing cape or a chain. Preferably with skulls.

 Kanluwen wrote:
I think the biggest change was that Archaon is a L4.

Ah, missed that ! Thanks. Did not notice he was now a level 4.

 Bonesnapper wrote:
Is it just me or doesn't swinging great hammers in chains or having long chains from your axe seem to be a perfect way to knock yourself unconscious or make yourself trip?

In my opinion it gets silly.

Not only that, but the tension created by the swinging chains would pull the force of the axe away from the cutting angle, meaning the weapon would be nearly impossible to use. I imagine it like being in a dream, where you keep swinging at someone but just softly hitting them every time

I realize we're not always going for realism with fantasy stuff, but this guy seems to have flails just so he can look more dangerous, but the effect looks very silly imo.

Those could actually be really useful if he has mental control over the chains.

Swiping away with heavy axes, but also able to get extra reach or entangle enemy weapons and limbs with the flails.

 Jinx Magiga wrote:
I love how the Legion of Khorne costs 666 euros

Slaanesh number. It should be 888

So Unbound is not required in all games.

EDIT: Fixed images.

All that's saying is what they've always said when it comes to definite things like that, "do whatever the hell you want, we don't care."

Deadawake1347 wrote:
All that's saying is what they've always said when it comes to definite things like that, "do whatever the hell you want, we don't care."

Well it's on the page is for "Armies of the End Times" not the "every army ever" like some where claiming before.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

Deadawake1347 wrote:
All that's saying is what they've always said when it comes to definite things like that, "do whatever the hell you want, we don't care."

Well it's on the page is for "Armies of the End Times" not the "every army ever" like some where claiming before.

And all it's saying is "Ignore how it's now officially done if you want", which doesn't need to be put in a rule book. It's not a rule like you're trying to say it is.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

Deadawake1347 wrote:
All that's saying is what they've always said when it comes to definite things like that, "do whatever the hell you want, we don't care."

Well it's on the page is for "Armies of the End Times" not the "every army ever" like some where claiming before.

Actually, it is. The designer's note is what is saying, "If you don't like it, you can ignore it, but this is how it is now."
The rule still tells you exactly how it wants you to play, which is ignoring all previous methods of army building.
It's essentially the same thing as Unbound in 40K. "This is how it is, but if you and your opponent agree, you can do whatever makes you giggle".

I guess one thing in its favour is it seems to limit you to one book.

But then, if the whispers of all the armies rolling into a handful of books are true, this becomes less relevant.

I still fail to see how an optinional supplement automatically overrules the core rules in every situation.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
I still fail to see how an optinional supplement automatically overrules the core rules in every situation.

It's only optional until the inevitable Errata comes out in a few weeks like when they changed the army list rules in Nagash.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
I still fail to see how an optinional supplement automatically overrules the core rules in every situation.

It's only optional until the inevitable Errata comes out in a few weeks like when they changed the army list rules in Nagash.

Which goes beyond the book itself. We'll see if they do it in the future.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
I still fail to see how an optinional supplement automatically overrules the core rules in every situation.

It's only optional until the inevitable Errata comes out in a few weeks like when they changed the army list rules in Nagash.

They still haven't done an errata for Khaine, so that might not actually happen.

changemod wrote:
What are Archie's rules looking like anyhow?

IN a nutshell, L4 wizard (Death, Shadow, Fire, Metal or Tzeentch I think), combined profile with Dorghar, now he's unbreakable, the Swords of Chaos get hatred and unbreakable, and Archaon gets the Khorne result if you roll a 7 on the Reign of Chaos or Eye of the Gods tables. Other than, pretty much the same as before.

I doubt anyone from my local GW is going to play with these horrible unbound rules.

[edit] nevermind

Scylla Anfingrimm.

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Scyla-Anfingrimm?_requestid=785410

I caved in and bought a box of SKULLMONGERS . I want to see if I can make them look half decent.

The weapons are quite nice. See attachment.

It looks like a fantastic source of conversion bits regardless of how you feel about the intended minis.

 Eldarain wrote:
It looks like a fantastic source of conversion bits regardless of how you feel about the intended minis.

Definitely. I think the ones that aren't painted with red flesh on the GW site look alright, and most of the parts in the kit seem to be pretty great.

 thenoobbomb wrote:

 Eldarain wrote:
It looks like a fantastic source of conversion bits regardless of how you feel about the intended minis.

Definitely. I think the ones that aren't painted with red flesh on the GW site look alright, and most of the parts in the kit seem to be pretty great.

The red flesh paint job ruined throws models.

Hmm, the discussion is probably over by now in regards to Slaanesh and Tzeentch's roles in the end times, but apparently in the story (like I said earlier, Slaanesh really doesn't have much to gain from that. And of course that hilarious fan dialogue about Khorne and Nurgle destroying the world while Slaanesh and Tzeentch were on vacation). I guess at least someone at GW or BL realizes that, too.