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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 15:55:37
Subject: Help with Beating Unbound Stupidity
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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My usual opponent always uses these lists. I play Necrons, and he always beats me with Unbound and solo vehicle stupidity.
(Running vehicles in seperate squads and putting them next to each other prevents high RPM AV weapons from doing damage to more than one with a single volley)
He allies ALL THE THINGS together.
His Lists:
Tau:
Fireblade, 2 Hammerheads, Riptide, 3 Solo Piranhas, 36 fire warriors, 3 Suits (One proxied as Farsight), all drones are marker drones.
Orks:
Solo Kans, Deff Dreads and Lootas. As many KMBs as possible.
Chaos:
Just about everything.
GK List
HQ-
Terminator Librarian
-ML3 (Rolling on Telepathy for invisibility)
Troops-
Strike Squad (10x GKs) with 2x Psilencers and 2x Daemonhammers
Purifier Squad w/ Psilencer
Elites
Paladins w/ Psycannon, Nemesis Banner, 5 Daemonhammers, Apothecary, and Land Raider.
Librarian and Paladins are in Land Raider together.
Heavy Support
Dreadknight w/ Heavy Psycannon and DOOMHAMMER.
Please help! I have almost every Necron unit.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2015/02/02 16:31:04
Peregrine - If you like the army buy it, and don't worry about what one random person on the internet thinks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 16:04:55
Subject: Re:Help with Beating GK/IG
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
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It's hard to beat IoM ally shenanigans as Xenos as we lack a battle brother ally (except for space pansies).
Gauss is probably your best bet against his baneblade and maybe spam flyers?
The only way to beat IoM cheese (especially Grey Knight cheese) is through using your own cheese.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 16:07:13
Subject: Re:Help with Beating GK/IG
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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SGTPozy wrote:It's hard to beat IoM ally shenanigans as Xenos as we lack a battle brother ally (except for space pansies).
Gauss is probably your best bet against his baneblade and maybe spam flyers?
The only way to beat IoM cheese (especially Grey Knight cheese) is through using your own cheese.
Tried Flyer spam last game. I almost got wiped as soon as the game started, any unit that dropped out of the flyers was instagibbed by tons of pie plates, and the Flyers couldn't do anything to AV14.
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Peregrine - If you like the army buy it, and don't worry about what one random person on the internet thinks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 16:10:13
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
Grand Rapids Metro
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Purifiers are Elites by the way. How many points is this?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/01/20 16:10:53
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 16:14:21
Subject: Re:Help with Beating GK/IG
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
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The only other thing that I could suggest would be going going unbound yourself and ally in some stuff. Get some Tau allies as they're allies of convenience (I believe), as although they aren't upper tier anymore they do work well against Grey Knights and mech heavy lists +through deep striking fusion blaster suits).
Or another option is to do what most other IoM players do and ally in an Imperial Knight or two.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 17:38:29
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Peregrine - If you like the army buy it, and don't worry about what one random person on the internet thinks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/12 00:40:24
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
Grand Rapids Metro
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So what you desperately need is Annihilation Barges...that's the giant blast cannoe right?
You need S8+ AP2- and as much as possible.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 17:40:34
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Wait
Baneblades?
Bring your own Tranyshard and rofl stomp him already
if he complains than demand no one plays LOW. Automatically Appended Next Post: ductvader wrote:So what you desperately need is Annihilation Barges...that's the giant blast cannoe right?
You need S8+ AP2- and as much as possible.
Doomsythes work better.
Bypasses Invisible and is St10 ap1 IIRC
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/01/20 17:41:18
Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 17:42:47
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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The way to beat him is to play Maelstrom missions, take plenty of troops in transports, preferably Nightscythes since he has no anti-flyer. Stay Battle-forged, so that your troops get Objective Secured. You don't need to kill the enemy, you just need to score more victory points than him. Play to the objectives all the time.
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Death Korps of Krieg Siege Army 1500 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 17:54:29
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Oh, and also in the game I played there was only one peice of terrain and he wouldn't let me place any more. All of my terrain is at his house. Please help.
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Peregrine - If you like the army buy it, and don't worry about what one random person on the internet thinks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 17:55:51
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Verviedi wrote:Oh, and also in the game I played there was only one peice of terrain and he wouldn't let me place any more. All of my terrain is at his house. Please help.
Tell him to go feth him self because thats bullgak.
one person having full control of terrain placement is just asking for trouble
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 18:08:28
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Auspicious Daemonic Herald
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Verviedi wrote:Oh, and also in the game I played there was only one peice of terrain and he wouldn't let me place any more. All of my terrain is at his house. Please help.
Why didn't you start with this in the first place. This is a huge problem
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 18:14:51
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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CrownAxe wrote:Verviedi wrote:Oh, and also in the game I played there was only one peice of terrain and he wouldn't let me place any more. All of my terrain is at his house. Please help.
Why didn't you start with this in the first place. This is a huge problem
Yeah this is "stop playing him and find better opponents" territory
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 18:45:33
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
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nobody wrote: CrownAxe wrote:Verviedi wrote:Oh, and also in the game I played there was only one peice of terrain and he wouldn't let me place any more. All of my terrain is at his house. Please help.
Why didn't you start with this in the first place. This is a huge problem
Yeah this is "stop playing him and find better -Friends-" territory
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Wyzilla wrote:
Because Plague Marines have the evasion abilities of a drunk elephant.
Burn the Heretic
Kill the mutant
Purge the Unclean |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 21:02:40
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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raiden wrote:nobody wrote: CrownAxe wrote:Verviedi wrote:Oh, and also in the game I played there was only one peice of terrain and he wouldn't let me place any more. All of my terrain is at his house. Please help.
Why didn't you start with this in the first place. This is a huge problem
Yeah this is "stop playing him and find better -Friends-" territory
Doing this would bring my net total of friends who play 40k to 0.
Also, whenever I ask for more LOS blocking terrain because Gunline Tau are broken on open fields, he just says I'm whining because he can beat me.
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Peregrine - If you like the army buy it, and don't worry about what one random person on the internet thinks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 21:04:31
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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Doesn't look like your friend brings much AA. Croissants?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 21:09:43
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Verviedi wrote: raiden wrote:nobody wrote: CrownAxe wrote:Verviedi wrote:Oh, and also in the game I played there was only one peice of terrain and he wouldn't let me place any more. All of my terrain is at his house. Please help. Why didn't you start with this in the first place. This is a huge problem Yeah this is "stop playing him and find better -Friends-" territory
Doing this would bring my net total of friends who play 40k to 0. Also, whenever I ask for more LOS blocking terrain because Gunline Tau are broken on open fields, he just says I'm whining because he can beat me. Army swap for a day and let him feel your pain He sounds like a donkeycave.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/01/20 21:09:52
Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 21:12:07
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
Grand Rapids Metro
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It's dangerous to play alone.
Here.
Take this.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/core/store_finder.jsp
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 22:04:07
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I'm aware of this.
My FLGS is a GW with about 3 regular gamers.
The nearest independent is a dingy craphole.
Every other store is ~45 minutes away.
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Peregrine - If you like the army buy it, and don't worry about what one random person on the internet thinks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 22:08:54
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Verviedi wrote: I'm aware of this. My FLGS is a GW with about 3 regular gamers. The nearest independent is a dingy craphole. Every other store is ~45 minutes away. You are not sub 17" and have access to a motor vehicle right? 45 min isnt that bad.. and a local Geedubs arnt that bad ether so long as you are not rocking 3rd parties or actively trying to provoke them.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/01/20 22:09:18
Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 00:18:35
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Desubot wrote:Verviedi wrote:
I'm aware of this.
My FLGS is a GW with about 3 regular gamers.
The nearest independent is a dingy craphole.
Every other store is ~45 minutes away.
You are not sub 17" and have access to a motor vehicle right?
45 min isnt that bad.. and a local Geedubs arnt that bad ether so long as you are not rocking 3rd parties or actively trying to provoke them.
Nope! I'm sub 17.
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Peregrine - If you like the army buy it, and don't worry about what one random person on the internet thinks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 00:19:26
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Welp You are SOL
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 02:45:02
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Anyone know where I can get tons of LOS blocking terrain for cheap? I don't have much money and suck at making terrain.
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Peregrine - If you like the army buy it, and don't worry about what one random person on the internet thinks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 05:04:08
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
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Verviedi wrote:Anyone know where I can get tons of LOS blocking terrain for cheap? I don't have much money and suck at making terrain.
your back yard
my first full on table terrain was made with 2 actual pieces of terrain, then a bunch of large rocks, limbs, sticks, ect.
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Wyzilla wrote:
Because Plague Marines have the evasion abilities of a drunk elephant.
Burn the Heretic
Kill the mutant
Purge the Unclean |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 05:24:12
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Hot glue and cardboard.
Corigated for the bulk
Cardstock for details
Make it look nice.
It wont matter if your friend wont let you use it.
Otherwise found objects and books work well.
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 05:41:43
Subject: Re:Help with Beating GK/IG
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Is he really a friend if hes being that harsh on you? But honestly that terrain issue is very important and needs to be fixed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 06:06:13
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos
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Yeah playing on planet bowling ball not only looks dumb, he's bullying you out of a win. This guy sounds like a donkey-cave lol.
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BloodGod Gaming Gallery
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 06:49:58
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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Verviedi wrote:
I'm aware of this.
My FLGS is a GW with about 3 regular gamers.
thats 3 potential opponents right there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 15:34:31
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I can only go to GW on weekends and he usually asks to go with me.
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Peregrine - If you like the army buy it, and don't worry about what one random person on the internet thinks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 15:55:23
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Been Around the Block
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He's a tool... Shake that dude off your friends list and take the time to connect with the 3 at the store... Use the down time to paint or assemble more stuff and even make some terrain. Playing against an donkey-cave like that isn't productive or fun so ditch him and enjoy the other great elements of this game while you locate better opponents.
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