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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 15:58:22
Subject: Re:Help with Beating GK/IG
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Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought
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Ah, one of THOSE friends...
I suggest wearing this shirt (but suspect it will have no effect).
Well, enjoy the great times with him:
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A revolution is an idea which has found its bayonets.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 21:07:39
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Any actual terrain making or tactical ideas?
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Peregrine - If you like the army buy it, and don't worry about what one random person on the internet thinks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 22:20:08
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought
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http://www.terragenesis.co.uk/
Thick Styrofoam sheet.
Use steak-knife to cut (Hot wire is easier).
Sand, gouge, hack as you see fit.
Spray with watered down white glue. <to prevent primer melting it... unless you want it to!>
Let dry.
Prime as you wish.
Spray or smear on glue where you wish.
Drop on flocking.
Dust off excess.
Done! Nice happy terrain hill or canyon bit...
Repeat!!
https://www.google.ca/search?q=styrofoam+terrain&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=5yXAVPH3HOO1sATR_oHgDg&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1280&bih=938
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A revolution is an idea which has found its bayonets.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 22:29:22
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Terrain Oh god the amount of stuff you can do on the cheap. it depends on how much work you are willing to put into it. just look at some of the infinity stuff http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/450/583487.page dig through his stuff. alot of it is just cereal boxs and Styrofoam packing pieces. Tactics wise not until you have an actual game with terrain.
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 23:08:24
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Ok, he said if I had actual terrain I could use it. He just doesn't want to use crap terrain.
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Peregrine - If you like the army buy it, and don't worry about what one random person on the internet thinks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 23:29:34
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Verviedi wrote:Ok, he said if I had actual terrain I could use it. He just doesn't want to use crap terrain.
I suspect if you bring any terrain, no matter the source, it'll be "crap"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 23:32:22
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Make it look sooooo god he "craps" his pants. Also you should just paint your stuff in your spare time. school properly, get a job, get a car, go drive to whatever FLG you want to and ditch this foo.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/01/21 23:33:06
Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/22 22:16:55
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought
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Kinda painful when a person will pass judgment on what is "crap".
He better accept a black-primed shoebox as far as I am concerned (Make sure it is Nike or something so it is not "crap").
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A revolution is an idea which has found its bayonets.
Napoleon Bonaparte |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/22 22:35:46
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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Verviedi wrote:
I can only go to GW on weekends and he usually asks to go with me.
Go to GW and don't tell him that you're going. After reading through all these posts, this guy you're talking about sounds hostile and obnoxious.
Also you mentioned that he doesn't want "Crap Terrain", all I can say is what the heck!? Homemade terrain is awesome. I make mine out of styrofoam leftover from shipped items. Carve it, build it up, paint it, use it! Or as others mentioned, feel free to use cardboard or any other material you find suitable.
All in all... this guy does not sound like a nice person to play against. I'd recommend starting to go to some public tables and play against other people.
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You say Fiery Crash! I say Dynamic Entry!
*Increases Game Point Limit by 100*: Tau get two Crisis Suits and a Firewarrior. Imperial Guard get two infantry companies, artillery support, and APCs. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/23 08:09:32
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos
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Verviedi wrote:Ok, he said if I had actual terrain I could use it. He just doesn't want to use crap terrain.
Yeah, this guy is definitely a douchebag. As far as terrain goes: this was made in about an hour with sprue, a hot glue gun and a box I stole from work:
While it may not look as pretty as a GW terrain kit, it serves the same purpose and if he refuses it I'd ditch him lol.
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BloodGod Gaming Gallery
"Pain is an illusion of the senses, fear an illusion of the mind, beyond these only death waits as silent judge o'er all."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/23 08:13:01
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
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^ that looks nice man.
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Because Plague Marines have the evasion abilities of a drunk elephant.
Burn the Heretic
Kill the mutant
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/23 08:50:07
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos
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Thanks! I think OPs friend is TFG through and through. I played with a few of those types when I first started, maybe that's why it get's me so aggravated. If he has to bully a newer player into playing a skewed game to get a win, he's already mentally conceded the win to OP, at least IMO.
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BloodGod Gaming Gallery
"Pain is an illusion of the senses, fear an illusion of the mind, beyond these only death waits as silent judge o'er all."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/23 12:26:17
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Stealthy Grot Snipa
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point him to this thread.
Im sure we can point out that in reality he is ruining the game not only for himself but also for you. winning purely because you have setup an auto win situation isn't really winning, fun nor does it make you a better player.
Do what the other poster suggested, swap armies, swap armies for 10 games. then once you've made him cry over and over, tell him that together your going to make a real board, use cardboard boxes, bits of plastic bottles, whatever. Just show him that a real game is 100x more fun, and engaging.
The game your playing; you may as well just take 2 dice, roll, see who gets highest and declare them the winner. with no terrain its just a dice off, and why dice off with hundreds of dice over 3-4 hours, when you can do it in 10 seconds?
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Favourite Game: When your Warboss on bike wrecks 3 vehicles simply by HoW - especially when his bike is a custom monowheel.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/25 03:57:44
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Played game.
I said I was bringing my first company fluff list.
He said what he was taking was secret.
Screw it, batrep.
Enemy List-
My List-
Mission: Purge
Psychic Powers:
Terminator Libby- Invisibility, Dominate, "Regroupy one"
Paladins- HammerHand
Strike- HammerHand
Purifiers- Cleansing Flame, Hammerhand
The Paladins were invisible and Hammerhanded the whole game. I didn't want to say that every turn.
Deployment:
He went first. Paladins and Libby were in Land Raider.
Turn 1-
Lootas fired and killed the Assault Cannon and Heavy Flamer on the Purplenator squad. Things moved. Not much happened.
My Purplenator squad moved out of the Lootas LOS, and the Land Raider moved towards the enemy line.
Turn 2 and 3
The Land Raider arrived from reserves and fired at my Land Raider, doing nothing. The Berzerkers moved, and the Purifiers DSed in near a building.
Everything Deep Struck. My Tactical Terminators killed 2 Strike Squad GKs, and my Assault terminators ran to spread out. My Land Raider advanced and fired it's Lascannons, stunning the enemy LR.
The Khorne Berzerkers moved around my Assault Terminators, the Land Raider moved (I know it was stunned, but didn't call him on this because I was preoccupied with asking a fluff question to the manager) and the Paladins disembarked. The Land Raider shot my Land Raider with both of it's Lascannons, doing 2 HP and immobilising it. Everything shot, killing 5 Assault Termies, and then all units but the Lootas charged the Assault Termies. The Assault Termies killed a single Paladin, but died horribly. The Strike Squad charged the Tactical Termies, killing 3 and taking 9 casualties.
My 5-man unit of Assault Termies charged the Purifiers, killing 4. My Purplenators shot at some random unit (Can't remember), and the Tactical Termies finally killed the last Strike Squad guy. The Land Raider fired at the enemy Land Raider, doing nothing.
Turn 4-
Paladins charged the Assault Termies, wiping them out and taking 1 casualty. The Chaos Terminators charged my Purplenators. Mutually assured destruction happened, both units died.
The Zerkers and Dreadknight moved towards the Tactical Terminators.
My Tactical Terminators shot at the Berzerkers, killing 1.
Turn 5-
I said GG and painted for 2 hours.
What I learned-
Don't take Terminators
Don't let opponent use CTA allies.
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Peregrine - If you like the army buy it, and don't worry about what one random person on the internet thinks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/25 04:37:50
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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DayOne916123 wrote:He's a tool... Shake that dude off your friends list and take the time to connect with the 3 at the store... Use the down time to paint or assemble more stuff and even make some terrain. Playing against an donkey-cave like that isn't productive or fun so ditch him and enjoy the other great elements of this game while you locate better opponents.
I agree with this.
If you can connect with the people at your local GW, odds are pretty damned good that the ones who can drive (and own a car) would be willing to pick you up once a week for game night, or take turns doing it. You could also go to the "Looking for game" forums and try there. I wouldn't be surprised if there were a few players super close to you that you didn't know about.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/25 05:03:56
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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morganfreeman wrote:DayOne916123 wrote:He's a tool... Shake that dude off your friends list and take the time to connect with the 3 at the store... Use the down time to paint or assemble more stuff and even make some terrain. Playing against an donkey-cave like that isn't productive or fun so ditch him and enjoy the other great elements of this game while you locate better opponents.
I agree with this.
If you can connect with the people at your local GW, odds are pretty damned good that the ones who can drive (and own a car) would be willing to pick you up once a week for game night, or take turns doing it. You could also go to the "Looking for game" forums and try there. I wouldn't be surprised if there were a few players super close to you that you didn't know about.
The carpooling is not an option. There is no Game Night, and there are not many people there to warrant this.
Definately not anyone I would want to burden with picking up an almost stranger that lives 30 minutes away and taking them to the game store to play a game.
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Peregrine - If you like the army buy it, and don't worry about what one random person on the internet thinks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/25 05:40:48
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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That list... is all over the place. He passed all his"One eye open" checks?
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SHUPPET wrote:
wtf is this buddhist monk ascendant martial dice arts crap lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/25 05:44:34
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Quickjager wrote:That list... is all over the place. He passed all his"One eye open" checks?
What.
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Peregrine - If you like the army buy it, and don't worry about what one random person on the internet thinks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/25 06:43:40
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Shunting Grey Knight Interceptor
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CTA and desperate allies have to roll a die before doing anything in a phase. If a one is rolled, they can't act that phase because they arepreoccuped with making sure they aren't getting stabbed in the back... Just like you have been playing against this joker. Also, CTA can't be deployed w/in 12" of each other.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/25 06:49:55
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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Welp I'm an idiot, that's what I get for not using the Aegis for over 2 years.
EDIT: wait a minute this table... and background of the pics... it looks familiar. I remember seeing something similar except it was about a player who was playing against a Tau who refused to set up LoS-blocking terrain.
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SHUPPET wrote:
wtf is this buddhist monk ascendant martial dice arts crap lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/25 06:52:46
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Shunting Grey Knight Interceptor
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The aegis can set up however it wants to, as long as each piece is touching at least one other piece. Nowhere in the rules does it say it has to be set up so that it makes one line.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/25 06:54:46
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout
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Ignore his sentinels entirely. Focus on the highest points and work your way down... run ripper swarms to the baneblade en-masse and FEAST!
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Sorry, my comment was on the first list, just saw the second one
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DR:80-S++G+M-B---I+Pw40k#10++D+A++++/cWD-R+++T(T)DM+
(Grey Knights 4500+) (Eldar 4000+ Pts) (Tyranids 3000 Pts) (Tau 3000 Pts) (Imperial Guard 3500 Pts) (Doom Eagles 3000 Pts) (Orks 3000+ Pts) (Necrons 2500 Pts) (Daemons 2000) (Sisters of Battle 2000) (2 Imperial Knights) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/25 07:02:37
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Shunting Grey Knight Interceptor
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Oh, that's what I forgot earlier, only battle bothers can join other factions squads.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/25 07:12:25
Subject: Re:Help with Beating GK/IG
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout
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Gauss weapons glance all Armor on 6s to wound
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DR:80-S++G+M-B---I+Pw40k#10++D+A++++/cWD-R+++T(T)DM+
(Grey Knights 4500+) (Eldar 4000+ Pts) (Tyranids 3000 Pts) (Tau 3000 Pts) (Imperial Guard 3500 Pts) (Doom Eagles 3000 Pts) (Orks 3000+ Pts) (Necrons 2500 Pts) (Daemons 2000) (Sisters of Battle 2000) (2 Imperial Knights) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/25 07:15:45
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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That sounds like a "no, he didn't roll them"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/25 07:21:38
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout
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Rulebook and codex man... you gotta read them
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DR:80-S++G+M-B---I+Pw40k#10++D+A++++/cWD-R+++T(T)DM+
(Grey Knights 4500+) (Eldar 4000+ Pts) (Tyranids 3000 Pts) (Tau 3000 Pts) (Imperial Guard 3500 Pts) (Doom Eagles 3000 Pts) (Orks 3000+ Pts) (Necrons 2500 Pts) (Daemons 2000) (Sisters of Battle 2000) (2 Imperial Knights) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/25 08:43:12
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos
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HOLY CRAP. That guy is literally the guy people were afraid of when unbound was announced.
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"Pain is an illusion of the senses, fear an illusion of the mind, beyond these only death waits as silent judge o'er all."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/25 13:37:40
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I do, but I don't usually use allies...
Also, he doesn't own a rulebook, he says it's too expensive and since other people have them he doesn't need them. Automatically Appended Next Post: Quickjager wrote:Welp I'm an idiot, that's what I get for not using the Aegis for over 2 years.
EDIT: wait a minute this table... and background of the pics... it looks familiar. I remember seeing something similar except it was about a player who was playing against a Tau who refused to set up LoS-blocking terrain.
Same guy.
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Peregrine - If you like the army buy it, and don't worry about what one random person on the internet thinks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/25 14:28:02
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Verviedi wrote:
I do, but I don't usually use allies...
Also, he doesn't own a rulebook, he says it's too expensive and since other people have them he doesn't need them.
Ahh, but having a Tau army and a Grey Knights army, alongside Ork allies isn't expensive?
Also I don't get why you wouldn't familiarize yourself with rules that you would have been using in your game.
Same advice as before, don't play him. Use the player finder to get some games where you live.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/25 15:03:28
Subject: Help with Beating GK/IG
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Frozocrone wrote: Verviedi wrote:
I do, but I don't usually use allies...
Also, he doesn't own a rulebook, he says it's too expensive and since other people have them he doesn't need them.
Ahh, but having a Tau army and a Grey Knights army, alongside Ork allies isn't expensive?
Also I don't get why you wouldn't familiarize yourself with rules that you would have been using in your game.
Same advice as before, don't play him. Use the player finder to get some games where you live.
I know almost all the rules, except for that one and maybe some stuff about buildings.
I view looking at stuff like that when you'll never use it like reading a Codex for an army nobody in the store has.
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Peregrine - If you like the army buy it, and don't worry about what one random person on the internet thinks.
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