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How'd the game go?

People have told you this a couple of times, but you want this type of people out of your life. He's not your friend. He's an asshat. Go look for real friends, who are not asshats. If you meet a person like him in the future, stay away from that one too. Your life will be happier.


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 Verviedi wrote:
Playing person again tomorrow. I will provide a battle report.

•Keeping my list secret

Just a note: you can't keep your list secret after the game started.

edit: Bleh wtf am i doing

Ja no secret list. All you have to do is know the rules and dont let him bend them backwards. but really get new friends lol

Sounds like he's got you by the short-and-curlies, and he knows it. He's not a friend; he's a user. It's up to you to decide whether sucking up his abuse is worth playing 40k.

Are you playing unbound too? Doing Battleforged vs Unbound is the douchiest thing one can do.

 Matthew wrote:
Are you playing unbound too? Doing Battleforged vs Unbound is the douchiest thing one can do.

Please Matthew why is that?

I left this thread and is still going... oh, my.

Summary:

OP's friend is a card carrying Narcissist, OP is the favored chew-toy.
OP is also in denial thinking that somehow by magic he can win a game by following the rules while buddy has no such compulsion and will make it up as he goes.
OP has no other friends and thinks he cannot get any so he is in thrall of a not very nice person.

This is called an ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP and our host here is in bad need of relationship therapy and needs to upgrade his feeling of self-worth.

It is TRULY a waste of time to discuss various tactics because the buddy is not playing the actual game, only his, which is rigged, which he will change, on a whim, because people let him.

Please let us end this with:

This is a toxic relationship that at the bare minimum needs a break.
Please look at spending time with people who share, respect, are polite and most of all have a sense of fun.
I cannot quite bring myself to call a MOD to close this because I must applaud the efforts of a few patient people genuinely trying to help: good stuff!! you know who you are.

By his lack of responses, I'm assuming hE lost his game and either quit the game totally or is taking a break.

Or he just spends moments of his life away from the computer.

The best advice I can give to the OP is to learn what the units that his opponent plays actually do. That way, you know what they can and can't do, and he can't cheat you. Borrow one of his codecies and give it a read, specifically what different wargear does. The allies matrix in the BRB, as has been stated, plays a huge role in his army comp. Come the Apocalypse allies can't even deploy within 12" of each other, which is a big time restriction.

Any time you feel like getting a win, use this line:

"Hey I wanted to try a list with some wraiths, but they're expensive so would you mind if I proxy them to see if the list is any good?" Proceed to faceroll him with 12-18 wraiths w/whip coils. Necron codex is great - you can play pretty much whatever you want and it's fine as long as you build a list around it.

I would also echo the call to stop selling models. If you can trade them, that works out fine because it's basically retail for retail, but selling them is really bad. You lose a ton of money and your collection keeps getting smaller. Always worth waiting to get new models. Save up and if you have no money, go make some. Even if you can't legally work yet, there are still tons of ways to make some money with your time.

I would worry less about which army is good and can beat his hodge podge army. All you really need are objective missions and fair terrain placement. Play what you love and don't apologize for it. If he thinks a unit or two is OP, maybe he's right. Flyrants may be appropriately costed (FYI I don't think they are) but even if they are, they are just so versatile and durable. But if you love a certain army, play it. When he says he doesn't want to play this or that, use his own logic against him - "I don't have the money to get a bunch of new models right now". It's the truth, and it sounds like he has a much larger collection than you do. Plus, he really shouldn't be worrying since Broadsides and Riptides eat Flyrants and Flyrants just can't kill them effectively. But that's another thing for another time.

Best of luck with this guy, and hopefully you're able to connect with some other players.

There a lot of good options mentioned on here so far. One option no one has mentioned yet is.... Vassal. Free computer program that allows you to get a game of 40k, WFB, etc. from home against new players as long as you have a screen name. Yes, I will admit it is not enjoyable as seeing your opponent's fully painted army in front of you. But much better than traveling to a location and losing and having to have the hang dog head enroute.


Also, MODS, please close this thread. Everything has been said way too many times.

From the description of him I would rather play league and become one of the raging NOOOOOOB people then stand in a room with this person for over 30 seconds and in that time I would tell him he is a terrible person and he should say this 100000 times to repent his sins, "Lugft Huron" and he has to say it with correct pronunciation or it doesn't count and he has to start over from .56456456 of what he had and he has to do all of the math to determine that or he will have to say it with ice on one side of his mouth and ULTRA SPICY chicken wings on the other side of his mouth sending him into shock giving you time to save his poor mistreated Berzerkers.

But, in all seriousness that sounds really sad man... I would actually recommend talking to him not about Warhammer 40k, but about your relationship with each other in general because he is starting to sound really abusive and you are just taking it which really isn't healthy.Yes actually also please close this thread its getting to a point where I read it every day and I just makes me hate the American people more and more everyday...

 dragoonmaster101 wrote:

But, in all seriousness that sounds really sad man... I would actually recommend talking to him not about Warhammer 40k, but about your relationship with each other in general because he is starting to sound really abusive and you are just taking it which really isn't healthy.Yes actually also please close this thread its getting to a point where I read it every day and I just makes me hate the American people more and more everyday...

Don't worry, it's a human thing, not American. Both OP and his donkey-cave "friend" needs to think a lot about what are they doing and why they are doing it. While the guy is clearly an donkey-cave, he has problems too.