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 dogma wrote:

 whembly wrote:

Chuck F'n Todd!

Is the US now so xenophobic that donations made by foreign nationals, to a charitable organization, are questioned on the basis of nationality?

Is the US so blind now that the entire Clinton Fondation was constructed in order to provide a facade of plausible deniability for Hillary Clinton? Explicit "quid", "pro" here... the "quo" is as easy as solving 2 + 2.

The circumstantial evidence is overwhelming.

 whembly wrote:

Is the US so blind now that the entire Clinton Fondation was constructed in order to provide a facade of plausible deniability for Hillary Clinton?

I'm pretty sure that's a "fact" you invented. The Clinton Foundation was founded long before Hillary ran for President.

 dogma wrote:

 whembly wrote:

Is the US so blind now that the entire Clinton Fondation was constructed in order to provide a facade of plausible deniability for Hillary Clinton?

I'm pretty sure that's a "fact" you invented. The Clinton Foundation was founded long before Hillary ran for President.

As always dude...

 dogma wrote:

 whembly wrote:

Is the US so blind now that the entire Clinton Fondation was constructed in order to provide a facade of plausible deniability for Hillary Clinton?

I'm pretty sure that's a "fact" you invented. The Clinton Foundation was founded long before Hillary ran for President.

Is Dakka so blind now that the Koch brothers are the puppet-masters behind the fake whembly account that was invented to leak conspiracy theories about Clinton to the internet?

Wake up sheeple!

 d-usa wrote:


Is Dakka so blind now that the Koch brothers are the puppet-masters behind the fake whembly account that was invented to leak conspiracy theories about Clinton to the internet?

Wake up sheeple!

I thought he was the Bernie Sanders Troll account

As long as we are just making up facts I guess anything is possible.

Might wanna clear out the sand out of your ears and eyes man.

 whembly wrote:

As always dude...

I honestly don't know what your point is, nor do I believe that you do. There are plenty of ways to attack the Clintons without making gak up.

Bill was looking at the Charity funds as his bachelor time after he left office. All that traveling he is/was/planning/loooking forward to alone.....for speeches, lectures, conference......meeting.....money in hand.....all came to a halt when Hillary went for public office.....feeding into Whembly perception.......just feeding it.....wafer by wafer.....cracker by cracker......box by box.....

 dogma wrote:

 whembly wrote:

As always dude...

I honestly don't know what your point is, nor do I believe that you do. There are plenty of ways to attack the Clintons without making gak up.

I wasn't making it up.

Step one: Create "charity"
Step two: Accept massive flows of foreign cash
Step three: Refuse to disclose donors by misunderstanding the law
Step four: Destroy private e-mail servers
Step five: Falsified tax returns, when caught, say "oops, my bad"
Step six: After donation, ensure some "me-time" with the Clintons
Step seven: Make favorable decisions to your donors via cabinet position
Step eight: profit!!!!

None of these steps are "made up".

At what point does this whole thing qualify as a mental illness?

Obsession? Is he hoarding?

 whembly wrote:
Ya see? ^ excuses.

I'm asking why you somehow you've suddenly decided needing evidence is some incredible new standard in investigation.


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 whembly wrote:
Is the US so blind now that the entire Clinton Fondation was constructed in order to provide a facade of plausible deniability for Hillary Clinton?

Dude, I like you. I think you're a good guy. And at the same time I don't particularly like the Clintons. But what you're just claimed is flying rodent gak lunacy.

Even the Clinton Cash, which is basically just a hatchet job achieved with innuendo and suggestive questions, doesn't suggest what you've claimed above.


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 whembly wrote:
Step one: Create "charity"

Hang on, and now you're even suggesting that the charity doesn't actually do charity? Is that what the inverted commas are for?

Because, I mean, not even the most outspoken critics of the Clinton Foundation are claiming that the Foundation wasn't doing good work. If there was any kind of claim that the Clinton's kept the money for themselves, then that would be a massive story in itself no matter where the money came from.

The actual claim is that money given to the foundation created potential for special relationships, even though that money was going to the Clinton's charity projects, and not to the Clinton's themselves. On top of this, failure to disclose donations was a failure to act in full faith and confidence, even when an undisclosed donation had no potential for a special relationship forming. On the former the case is ridiculously weak, and on the latter there is some grounds, in that while the Clintons met the conditions expected of them, they did so in a legalistic sense only, much as the Clintons always have.

 whembly wrote:

None of these steps are "made up".

Even if I accept all of your steps, and I don't, the sum isn't "conspiracy" and what I'm claiming that you fabricated is the sum.

I saw somewhere where only 10% goes towards "charity" itself. Isn't a good chunk of Charity organizations do the same? Clinton Charity Fundation(?)

I remember the Charity campaign drives we did in the military. If a 100% of the unit donate to charities we would get a four day pass. The pamphlets we get had a list of organizations and how much the the actual money goes towards the charity

I always did Red Cross being they're 90 cents to the dollar that goes towards those in needs.

Edit

clarifying the 10%

11% overhead, 89% towards programs.

https://www.charitywatch.org/ratings-and-metrics/bill-hillary-chelsea-clinton-foundation/478

"just throwing out bs, seeing what sticks"

Whembly, any more spammy picture only posts (sorry, picture + 1 line of snark) will see you get a warning. You're bordering on the edge of Rule 1 and on the edge of the spam rule, you could well be a double winner if you don't calm down.

 motyak wrote:
Whembly, any more spammy picture only posts (sorry, picture + 1 line of snark) will see you get a warning. You're bordering on the edge of Rule 1 and on the edge of the spam rule, you could well be a double winner if you don't calm down.

Sure thing boss.

Besides... I'm going to Memphis this weekend (Beale street Music Festival). I'll get it out of my system then for sure.

One of the Bridgeghazi guys is going to plead guilty to... something today.

My guess is, regardless of what involvement Christie had, this guy is going to fall on his sword in consideration for future benefits.

Sorry to derail the current mood of the discussion, but I just seen something AMAZING in the world of politics today.

As you know, it's election time in the UK and people are running for office.

Imagine my surprise when I seen one of the candidates TALKING to normal people in the STREET. The street!

In this age of social media, mass media, and lazy politicians preferring to send you a manifesto in the post, I could not believe a politician was talking to normal people and off script. No soundbites, just his own opinions. And he was practically on HIS OWN!

Usually, politicians try to avoid normal people like the plague or have a heavily stage managed event.

I am shocked! I need to lie down.

It happens all the time here. granted, they are ususally more local politicans, but even Congress critters will do it. Typically, it occurs at the summer fairs and parades we have.

It could happen to you, you have been warned.

 Easy E wrote:
It happens all the time here. granted, they are ususally more local politicans, but even Congress critters will do it. Typically, it occurs at the summer fairs and parades we have.

It could happen to you, you have been warned.

We're not used to that level of interaction in the UK There are only three occasions in the UK when you see a politician: 1) after they've won and they're promising you the world and no more taxes. 2) On the front page of a newspaper when they've been done for corruption or sleeping with their next door neighbour's wife 3) When they've gotten drunk and made an ass of themselves in parliament.

All this new interaction is a danger to UK democracy and it must be crushed! crushed!

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

All this new interaction is a danger to UK democracy and it must be crushed! crushed!

If you're so upset about it.... dump a ship's load of tea into the harbor to let them know!!

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

All this new interaction is a danger to UK democracy and it must be crushed! crushed!

If you're so upset about it.... dump a ship's load of tea into the harbor to let them know!!

Never! This is Britain. We don't waste good tea over here. Anybody who dumped a load of tea into the harbour would end up in the tower of London.

PS

Please could you spell HARBOUR with a U. Damn Yankees wasting good vowels

Nah, we're just more efficient than you guys. We even got rid of the "the" in dates.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Nah, we're just more efficient than you guys. We even got rid of the "the" in dates.

That's another American practice that annoys me. We do Day/Month/Year. You lot do Month/Day/Year.

Confuses the hell out of me, especially here on dakka. Grrrrrr

Anyway, back OT before a Mod releases the hounds on us.

Can't thin of anything to say

Well, we could always talk about Bernie Saunders?

SOCIALIST!

Go Bernie!

He has a snowball's chance in hell of winning, but I'm throwing my support at him anyway.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Go Bernie!

He has a snowball's chance in hell of winning, but I'm throwing my support at him anyway.

Yeah! Now my idea of a dream ticket would be Sander/Warren, Warren/Sanders,,,,,Have to see if we get a Clinton/Sanders or Sanders/Clinton as a Prez/VP run