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 Kanluwen wrote:
It's not the "having to download some PDFs" bit.

It's the fact that quite a few people who were interested in Infinity(but not interested enough to watch the hours and hours of Beasts of War "interviews") paid money for the N3 book--only to find out that they did not get a complete overhaul like what was being touted.

There's a reason some of the posters on the Infinity forum are starting to say "Because N3!" when it comes to some bizarre issues/missing rules, etc.

Except CB never said N3 would be a complete overhaul of Human Sphere or Paradiso. That can be blamed on Infinity vets misleading new players, or new players misreading what was said.

CB have said since the start that N3 will be a reissue of the core rulebook only, and Human Sphere and Paradiso will be compatible with it. Some griped about Human Sphere and Paradiso not being included, some speculated they might get complete overhauled PDFs, some argued that linked teams should be considered core rules, but the truth is CB said from the very start N3 would only be the core rulebook, and Human Sphere and Paradiso would be expansions to it, just like they were expansions to the N2 core rulebook.

While I can blame CB for doing a bad job of the way they made Human Sphere and Paradiso compatible (I hate FAQs which are intended to glue editions together), I can blame people for either (intentionally or not) misleading new players about the contents of N3, or new players simply incorrectly assuming something about N3 when CB were, for once, pretty clear what would be included in the book.

 -Loki- wrote:

Except CB never said N3 would be a complete overhaul of Human Sphere or Paradiso. That can be blamed on Infinity vets misleading new players, or new players misreading what was said.

It can also be blamed by relying on Beasts of War/third parties to spread information about your product.

It should have been very bluntly stated in regards to what it did/did not contain--and not squirreled away in videos from Beasts of War or hidden in Facebook comments from individual members of the design team, etc.
It should have been made clear to retailers so that they could in turn relay it to customers.

I think that placing the blame solely on players for not understanding exactly what was said is a bit silly. It's becoming more and more common with Corvus Belli that it is easier to get news in regards to their games by listening to anyone BUT the company itself.
It makes me wonder why in the world they bother to have their own website now. They don't put the previews of their products up nor even link to where they get the previews shown.

I blame the misunderstanding from the wishlisting of the fanatic peat, myself.

I had always understood that it was JUST going to be a redo of the main 2nd ed rulebook and nothing more. Not a combined book. JUST a replacement for the 2nd ed book.

That the rest of the profiles would get redone was a gimme given the new profile style used in Icestorm - and these would be available as a free download (as was normal).

Those expecting more were always going to be sorely disappointed.

I dont think thats the point. I knew what I was buying wasnt a "complete update" to the rules. What I (and I think most others) didnt realize was what exactly that would mean when it came to things in CP and HS, as in how extensive an update would be needed and the manner they would be delivered to us, etc.

Beyond that, while CB may have made what N3 was and was not clear through various online channels, that doesnt really help the vast majority of gamers who might not follow these things as closely as the more active minority of gamers who frequent such websites.

Even if you know what you are getting that doesn't mean the way they decided to do N3 was a good idea.

carlos13th wrote:Even if you know what you are getting that doesn't mean the way they decided to do N3 was a good idea.

That's what people have been saying;

-Loki- wrote:Except CB never said N3 would be a complete overhaul of Human Sphere or Paradiso. That can be blamed on Infinity vets misleading new players, or new players misreading what was said.

CB have said since the start that N3 will be a reissue of the core rulebook only, and Human Sphere and Paradiso will be compatible with it. Some griped about Human Sphere and Paradiso not being included, some speculated they might get complete overhauled PDFs, some argued that linked teams should be considered core rules, but the truth is CB said from the very start N3 would only be the core rulebook, and Human Sphere and Paradiso would be expansions to it, just like they were expansions to the N2 core rulebook.

While I can blame CB for doing a bad job of the way they made Human Sphere and Paradiso compatible (I hate FAQs which are intended to glue editions together), I can blame people for either (intentionally or not) misleading new players about the contents of N3, or new players simply incorrectly assuming something about N3 when CB were, for once, pretty clear what would be included in the book.

Emphasis mine. Yes it could've been done better, but we knew from the start what we were getting.

At the very least, it would have been a good idea to bundle the N3 PDF, the HS and CP Pdfs (and the weapon PDFs when released) into one zip file. Then add the FAQ/Errata to that zip when the PDF came out. Keep the Army profile PDF separate. That's 2 downloads, much better than the 6 we have now. And probably 2 more eventually, FAQ and errata for N3.

The Army profile PDF is a mess, with Profiles that lack embedded text, and all sorts of other annoying problems, like offset text. Truly a v 0.0. I wish the unit listings were at least alphabetized.

 Red Harvest wrote:
At the very least, it would have been a good idea to bundle the N3 PDF, the HS and CP Pdfs (and the weapon PDFs when released) into one zip file. Then add the FAQ/Errata to that zip when the PDF came out. Keep the Army profile PDF separate. That's 2 downloads, much better than the 6 we have now. And probably 2 more eventually, FAQ and errata for N3.

Oh absolutely. Actually making the FAQ changes to the HS and Paradiso PDFs and then putting them all in a single PDF with N3 with some slight editing to merge them properly would have gone over far better with the community, and only taken a few more days. Which, in the end, would have caused less griping.

 Red Harvest wrote:
The Army profile PDF is a mess, with Profiles that lack embedded text, and all sorts of other annoying problems, like offset text. Truly a v 0.0. I wish the unit listings were at least alphabetized.

I haven't had issues with it, honestly. It's about as readable as any of their army lists have been. Or are you talking specifically issues with printing them?

Yup. I've had ZERO issues with the troop profile pdfs.

On PC OR android tablet (can't pay me to use an ipad). All the text where it should be. Scales up and down, stays visible.

Apparently, there IS an issue with the way IPADS render the pdf, though - but they have this issue with a LOT of other pdfs that use the same formatting, too. This is probably down to issues that APPLE have had with ADOBE for a loooooong time, though.

I can confirm they look perfectly fine on an iPad mini and iPhone 5S. That's where I've done most of my PDF perusing.

 -Loki- wrote:

Except CB never said N3 would be a complete overhaul of Human Sphere or Paradiso. That can be blamed on Infinity vets misleading new players, or new players misreading what was said.

There, right there. Stop that.

Stop trying to blame the player base for CB's mistake. That's the same kind of backwards logic that turned GW and its fanbase into the monsters they are now.

It doesn't matter one damn bit what CB said, because it's not the new players' expectations that are wrong, it's CB's choice to go the wrong route and not consolidate the game for the new edition. It is the expectation of the entire community and most games that when you release a new edition, you consolidate the rules to prevent this sort of confusion. CB made the choice to ignore that, don't be so much of a fanboy that you try and defend that action.

Not only that, all these delays, the half-baked FAQ, the need for piecemeal PDFs in the first place all shows CB rushed the release of N3 to try and hit holiday sales season 2014. They put out an $80 rulebook with a very cheap to produce extra book of mediocre fluff.

And don't try to say everything wouldn't have fit in one book, because it would have. I know exactly what it takes to put out a game. It's hard work, but this new edition was rushed. Trying to blame the players for a poor business decision and rushing to market is not how you build a community.

Remember, this is the same company that put out shoddy writing and translations of N1 and N2, requiring them to release the game for free, otherwise they would never have gotten an audience in the first place. I praise CB for continuing the tradition of releasing the rules for free, but that's not such a big deal anymore, especially now with miniature games facing so much competition. I also praise CB for upping the quality of miniatures, except the same techniques they used to do that are already in use by their competition, not to mention we all pay a higher price for it.

It was rushed because the fanatic peat have no patience and wanted it out naaaaaaow!

They got the edition they deserve as a result.

The rest of us can make do with it.

There's no such thing as "the perfect system" - there's only "that'll do the job" and "it's not ready yet".

Given the choice between those, I'll take close enough every time.

 -Loki- wrote:
I haven't had issues with it, honestly. It's about as readable as any of their army lists have been. Or are you talking specifically issues with printing them?

Try to do a text search for a unit, and you'll see that the unit titles are images, not text, or at least not searcheable text. The only entries you get when searching for units go to the sectorials.

Which is not ideal.

EDIT: Or well, at least with the spanish edition pdf. Haven't tried with the english one.

 Albertorius wrote:

 -Loki- wrote:
I haven't had issues with it, honestly. It's about as readable as any of their army lists have been. Or are you talking specifically issues with printing them?

Try to do a text search for a unit, and you'll see that the unit titles are images, not text, or at least not searcheable text. The only entries you get when searching for units go to the sectorials.

Which is not ideal.

EDIT: Or well, at least with the spanish edition pdf. Haven't tried with the english one.

I constantly name search units, and haven't found one that wasn't found. This is in the army list though, I haven't tried searching the rulebook.


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 Vertrucio wrote:

 -Loki- wrote:

Except CB never said N3 would be a complete overhaul of Human Sphere or Paradiso. That can be blamed on Infinity vets misleading new players, or new players misreading what was said.

There, right there. Stop that.

No.

I'm allowed to voice my opinion as much as you are. Don't tell me to stop talking and listen to your opinion as if it's more valid.

 Vertrucio wrote:
Stop trying to blame the player base for CB's mistake. That's the same kind of backwards logic that turned GW and its fanbase into the monsters they are now.

It doesn't matter one damn bit what CB said, because it's not the new players' expectations that are wrong, it's CB's choice to go the wrong route and not consolidate the game for the new edition. It is the expectation of the entire community and most games that when you release a new edition, you consolidate the rules to prevent this sort of confusion. CB made the choice to ignore that, don't be so much of a fanboy that you try and defend that action.

The. Entire. Community.

bs. I'm seeing more people on the official boards, and here, and other boards I post on with an Infinity prescense, happily playing N3. Some have gripes, but it's an edition change, and that happens.

What destroyed GW's community was people getting on their soapbox trying to claim that their opinion is superior, and put down others who disagreed. Discussion stopped and the community turned toxic. This had already happened to the official boards before N3, for the same fething reason. So don't tell me to stop - how about you stop acting so fething know-it-all and actually have a discussion, rather than drop in, tell others to shut up, and voice your own opinion expecting others to just fall in line behind you in agreement.

Yes, I will blame, as chromedog said, the fanatic peat. CB may not have dont a press release, but they did plenty of interviews about N3, which filtered back through the community for people to find, about the nature of N3. They were never making a consolidated rulebook, they were never fully overhauling Human Sphere or Paradiso. In my opinion, if you expected otherwise as a player who followed the game online, you deserved to be disappointed. If you knew what they were doing and are still upset, then fine, as I've already said in this thread, I'm disappointed in some things as well.

If you don't like my opinion, then hey, I really don't give a toss. Yes, I'm acting like you, in response to you, because by the tone of your post, you weren't interested in a discussion. That's my opinion, deal with it.

Albertorius has it. Images are not searchable, (both Asawira and Azra'il, to name 2 Haqq units, are images with no embedded text.) and since the listings are not alphabetized ( WTF ) finding some units is a challenge. The PDF uses non standard fonts, like Helvetica and Century Gothic (well, Helvetica is standard on Macs, and Century Gothic I have. Not sure how. But if you want helvetica, you have to buy it, or...) and does not embed them, so your PDF reader has to substitute fonts. This is not good.

I use Evince for most PDF reading. It, and a couple of other PDF readers, they render the Asawira, and a few other units as this:


And this, where is the Order Sergeant entry? Me, I can tease it out with other software. Not everybody knows how to do that.


Just 2 examples. Now, I can open the PDF using a browser, or my tablet, and it displays everything, but the point of a PDF is that it always displays identically, across operating systems and across readers.

These are, of course, technical issues. They ought to be fixed in v.0.1 of the profiles. But, who knows? I have yet to have a problem with the N3 rulebook. But that was not a rush job.

Edits: Posting screenshots, an interesting experience

 -Loki- wrote:
I constantly name search units, and haven't found one that wasn't found. This is in the army list though, I haven't tried searching the rulebook.

Huh. Maybe I had an older version, or something? Dunno.

 chromedog wrote:
It was rushed because the fanatic peat have no patience and wanted it out naaaaaaow!

They got the edition they deserve as a result.

The rest of us can make do with it.

There's no such thing as "the perfect system" - there's only "that'll do the job" and "it's not ready yet".

Given the choice between those, I'll take close enough every time.

So because "the fanatic peat have no patience and wanted it out naaaaaaaaow!" they caved in and released the books early?
Because they didn't release the books early. They released the books around the timeframe they said they would.
They released THE PDFS EARLY BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT CERTAIN THAT THE BOOKS WERE ACTUALLY GOING TO MAKE IT.

And quite frankly? Given that they claim that N3 has been in development for multiple years, it's pathetic that they could not do a combined release of all the rules.

I would be very surprised if a consolidated rulebook (PDF) does not appear at some point, even if its something fan made. CB might even like the look of it and follow up the same thing officially.

CB aren't a massive company, they have limited resources. I also think they have a commitment to excellence in so far as their rules go (they're not just prepared to throw out any rubbish just to get it done), and so we can expect them to handle it carefully.

As for the change that happened in GW, I see that as the baggage that comes with the change from a small to a large company, and a publically owned one. With the best will in the world I can't imagine CB ever getting that large, and while they are privately owned (and creative types and rule writers are allowed their own freedom) then I can't ever imagine the company becoming a 'new GW' in respect to how they treat the game and their fans.

 Vertrucio wrote:


It doesn't matter one damn bit what CB said, because it's not the new players' expectations that are wrong, it's CB's choice to go the wrong route and not consolidate the game for the new edition. It is the expectation of the entire community and most games that when you release a new edition, you consolidate the rules to prevent this sort of confusion. CB made the choice to ignore that, don't be so much of a fanboy that you try and defend that action.

What table top miniature game give the community that expectation, I know it wasn't GW or PP as they don't it (MK2 was month before every thing was updated and GW well....). If the 2 leaders aren't doing it what set this expectation.

 Vertrucio wrote:

 -Loki- wrote:

Except CB never said N3 would be a complete overhaul of Human Sphere or Paradiso. That can be blamed on Infinity vets misleading new players, or new players misreading what was said.

There, right there. Stop that.

Stop trying to blame the player base for CB's mistake. That's the same kind of backwards logic that turned GW and its fanbase into the monsters they are now.

It doesn't matter one damn bit what CB said, because it's not the new players' expectations that are wrong, it's CB's choice to go the wrong route and not consolidate the game for the new edition. It is the expectation of the entire community and most games that when you release a new edition, you consolidate the rules to prevent this sort of confusion. CB made the choice to ignore that, don't be so much of a fanboy that you try and defend that action.

Not only that, all these delays, the half-baked FAQ, the need for piecemeal PDFs in the first place all shows CB rushed the release of N3 to try and hit holiday sales season 2014. They put out an $80 rulebook with a very cheap to produce extra book of mediocre fluff.

And don't try to say everything wouldn't have fit in one book, because it would have. I know exactly what it takes to put out a game. It's hard work, but this new edition was rushed. Trying to blame the players for a poor business decision and rushing to market is not how you build a community.

Remember, this is the same company that put out shoddy writing and translations of N1 and N2, requiring them to release the game for free, otherwise they would never have gotten an audience in the first place. I praise CB for continuing the tradition of releasing the rules for free, but that's not such a big deal anymore, especially now with miniature games facing so much competition. I also praise CB for upping the quality of miniatures, except the same techniques they used to do that are already in use by their competition, not to mention we all pay a higher price for it.

Extremely well said.

Infinity is a system with some real highs and lows right now: peerless metal minis, great art are marred by an opaque, complicated system that only gets more complicated by business decisions that, with all due respect, are simply boneheaded.

Further, this notion that some nebulous "community" (in all seriousness, what is this "fanatic peat" people keep referencing? What does gardening have to do with this?) is to blame is... just silly. The situation that Albertorius describes verges on parody... in fact, it resembles nothing so much as this classic of absurdist comedy;



Yes, it's great that the rules are free. But that doesn't excuse the frustrating and counter-intuitive system that CB ended up with. For new players, or even more importantly, people that want to be new players, complexity is off-putting, complexity creates frustration, complexity, in short, is a barrier to new players that will be enough to stop some of them from actually transitioning to become players.


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Noir wrote:

 Vertrucio wrote:


It doesn't matter one damn bit what CB said, because it's not the new players' expectations that are wrong, it's CB's choice to go the wrong route and not consolidate the game for the new edition. It is the expectation of the entire community and most games that when you release a new edition, you consolidate the rules to prevent this sort of confusion. CB made the choice to ignore that, don't be so much of a fanboy that you try and defend that action.

What table top miniature game give the community that expectation, I know it wasn't GW or PP as they don't it (MK2 was month before every thing was updated and GW well....). If the 2 leaders aren't doing it what set this expectation.

I'm not sure what you mean: PP didn't release their Mk.2 rules for free, but they certainly consolidated their rules, faction by faction, and both sold books consolidating the new rules and 'faction decks' containing the new unit rules.

PDFs are so 1990... there should be an App Army Builder for Android/iPad so that you can reference easily through a menu as well as create your army list for easy reference when playing. That way each army/troop references directly any rules bridged from multiple PDFs into one location based on your force creation. Now I have to actually assemble, print out the pages I want, with the rules and put them into a binder like all my other games. I would like something new and shiny. ^_^

 Dark Severance wrote:
PDFs are so 1990... there should be an App Army Builder for Android/iPad so that you can reference easily through a menu as well as create your army list for easy reference when playing. That way each army/troop references directly any rules bridged from multiple PDFs into one location based on your force creation. Now I have to actually assemble, print out the pages I want, with the rules and put them into a binder like all my other games. I would like something new and shiny. ^_^

Luckily the community picked that up with Mayanet and ia. Mayanet even has direct offline links to wiki entires built in with a gameplay mode that tracks casualties and Retreat.

 Buzzsaw wrote:

Extremely well said.

Infinity is a system with some real highs and lows right now: peerless metal minis, great art are marred by an opaque, complicated system that only gets more complicated by business decisions that, with all due respect, are simply boneheaded.

Further, this notion that some nebulous "community" (in all seriousness, what is this "fanatic peat" people keep referencing? What does gardening have to do with this?) is to blame is... just silly.

"Fanatic Peat" is a term that was used by one of the CB staff to describe the more vocal/easily excitable members of the community.

Not unlike the whole "Little Timmy" nonsense that gets discussed regarding the loud kids you sometimes encounter at GW shops.

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Noir wrote:

 Vertrucio wrote:


It doesn't matter one damn bit what CB said, because it's not the new players' expectations that are wrong, it's CB's choice to go the wrong route and not consolidate the game for the new edition. It is the expectation of the entire community and most games that when you release a new edition, you consolidate the rules to prevent this sort of confusion. CB made the choice to ignore that, don't be so much of a fanboy that you try and defend that action.

What table top miniature game give the community that expectation, I know it wasn't GW or PP as they don't it (MK2 was month before every thing was updated and GW well....). If the 2 leaders aren't doing it what set this expectation.

I'm not sure what you mean: PP didn't release their Mk.2 rules for free, but they certainly consolidated their rules, faction by faction, and both sold books consolidating the new rules and 'faction decks' containing the new unit rules.

And for 6 months I couldn't play Mk2 as I am a Horde player. So no they didn't they released it as 2 books a half year apart. Plus they didn't have all the units in them, but they do give you cards so you don't need the faction book (but they are more books with units not in the 2 Core books. Now In can see someone coming in with "ut only the focus is different you could still play"without a note of irony.

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Buzzsaw wrote:

Noir wrote:

 Vertrucio wrote:


It doesn't matter one damn bit what CB said, because it's not the new players' expectations that are wrong, it's CB's choice to go the wrong route and not consolidate the game for the new edition. It is the expectation of the entire community and most games that when you release a new edition, you consolidate the rules to prevent this sort of confusion. CB made the choice to ignore that, don't be so much of a fanboy that you try and defend that action.

What table top miniature game give the community that expectation, I know it wasn't GW or PP as they don't it (MK2 was month before every thing was updated and GW well....). If the 2 leaders aren't doing it what set this expectation.

I'm not sure what you mean: PP didn't release their Mk.2 rules for free, but they certainly consolidated their rules, faction by faction, and both sold books consolidating the new rules and 'faction decks' containing the new unit rules.

And for 6 months I couldn't play Mk2 as I am a Horde player. So no they didn't they released it as 2 books a half year apart. Plus they didn't have all the units in them, but they do give you cards so you don't need the faction book (but they are more books with units not in the 2 Core books. Now In can see someone coming in with "ut only the focus is different you could still play"without a note of irony.

Not to be overly harsh, but your current objection is irrelevant to the point raised: you argued that neither GW nor PP "consolidate the rules to prevent this sort of confusion". This is plainly incorrect as regards to PP; when they made the move to Mk.2, they did exactly what you claim they did not, they made redundant all their old books and then published a new, comprehensive rules set. Mk.2 Prime or Primal completely obviated the need for the previously published books, and the "Forces of" books collected all of the rules and stats for the units previously published.

What PP did is, frankly, exactly what CB ought to have done. Instead CB has engaged in a mishmash of information that seems to serve no purpose.

Seriously now, consider PP's publishing schedule (taken from Wikipedia);


What CB has done is akin to PP releasing Prime Mk2 in 2010, but then insisting that units from Apotheosis would not be included in the updates, and you had to search out that book for the fluff of those units and go to a third place for the stats and a fourth for the special rules.

Right now you can buy Apotheosis or Superiority for the fluff, but in game terms those books are completely obviated. Would it be nicer if PP gave their rules away for free? Perhaps, but it's worth pointing out that PP's rules are the strong point of their game, while CB's are... well, there is a reason many people are waiting for fans to edit the official texts into things a bit more... palatable.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Buzzsaw wrote:

Extremely well said.

Infinity is a system with some real highs and lows right now: peerless metal minis, great art are marred by an opaque, complicated system that only gets more complicated by business decisions that, with all due respect, are simply boneheaded.

Further, this notion that some nebulous "community" (in all seriousness, what is this "fanatic peat" people keep referencing? What does gardening have to do with this?) is to blame is... just silly.

"Fanatic Peat" is a term that was used by one of the CB staff to describe the more vocal/easily excitable members of the community.

Not unlike the whole "Little Timmy" nonsense that gets discussed regarding the loud kids you sometimes encounter at GW shops.

It was iirc a minstranslation of one of Alexander Nevsky's comic strips, it was caused by the fact that the word "turba" in spanish can mean both peat and mob, then the name got popular.

The original (because I can't find the english translated one)

I fail to understand - CB gave free core rules which they said was compatible with HS/C.

The current army builder (and thus most up to date for all non-core N3 models) was still online

Free rules, relaxed proxying an sensible prices do a lot to show the sense of entitlement. With GW just because you spend £400 on sphess marines doesn't entitle you to play until you drop another £100 on rulebook and codex that you need a day 1 FAQ for.

Do not apply the same logic to CB, the rules are free, they don't have a massive team, they are in a different language and they STILL manage to make, market and supply a game that's better than GW or warmahordes.

I think a lot of it comes down to the fact that personally, I can forgive a lot of its free. While the whole N3 transition could have been handled better, the fact is, I don't have to spend a single penny on the rules. And personally, that makes up for a lot of the issues other people have. I understand that doesn't apply for everyone, that's just my personal take.

Sure, I'm willing to cut people slack. But to blame the consumer is not cutting someone slack. Thankfully, CB isn't participating in this blaming, rather it's just some fans that keep touting that line.

That's why I post so angrily whenever I see someone post that just because CB said they would make a terrible decision, it's somehow okay and it's the fault of the consumer that they didn't blindly accept that.

A terrible business decision is still a terrible business decision. Or rather, a terrible anti-consumer decision is still an anti-consumer decision.

And, more importantly, for many, the rules weren't actually free since we paid $80, many people, regardless of what you say, expect that $80 to be a consolidated rulebook. For what, some mediocre fiction, and a rulebook that would have cost $30 on the shelf when not in a (very cheap to manufacture) slip case? Heck, Flames of War gave away physical mini-rulebooks to everyone for free.

And yes, the vast majority of the community, save for hopeless fanboys that blame consumers, were expecting a consolidated rulebook. It's an industry standard expectation.

As for sensible prices, Infinity minaitures cost 1.5 to 2 times the cost of any other manufacturer. Which is fine considering it's a tiny skirmish so fewer models take up more of a full army (which funnily enough, people give Warmachine crap for on these forums). But, that's still a premium price.

I too, can forgive a lot if it's free. But I don't forgive people why try to shunt the blame.

CB is doing a lot for the industry in raising the quality of miniatures, and doing some fun things with rules. And forgive them for not having the resources to do everything at once, but don't try to shunt blame onto the consumer for their own growing pains. That's the sort of thing GW excelled at.

 Dark Severance wrote:
PDFs are so 1990... there should be an App Army Builder for Android/iPad so that you can reference easily through a menu as well as create your army list for easy reference when playing. That way each army/troop references directly any rules bridged from multiple PDFs into one location based on your force creation. Now I have to actually assemble, print out the pages I want, with the rules and put them into a binder like all my other games. I would like something new and shiny. ^_^

Pretty useful for someone like me, that has a Surface >_>

That could probably be done as a web app that runs mostly anywhere. That said, pdfs have the advantage of not needing a particular plattform, not needing internet connection, and an ability to print stuff.