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That's because people outside of Scotland are still at work.

You make it too easy...

 notprop wrote:
That's because people outside of Scotland are still at work.

You make it too easy...

How do you know I'm not at work watching the news on a tablet device?

https://www.facebook.com/hugo.jackson.94/videos/654911224606798/

Sums it all up tbh.

Sky News is boasting about their general action coverage for the last 30 years and how they were the first to introduce something new each time (24 hour coverage, fancy computer graphics, HD coverage etc). It seems that this election is so boring, that this time the gimmick iS Behind the Scenes coverage.

That's right, they heard we like coverage, so they're giving us coverage of their coverage so we can watch them cover while they cover.

This time the channel is giving the viewers an even closer look from the other side of the camera. Adam Bolton: "we're gonna show what Sky News is up to behind the scenes with these extra cameras and we're gonna do it live throughout the night".

Useful for journalism students I guess.

I sent a postal vote last week.. bit depressing really, had to vote CON as UKIP has surged into the second spot in our area, and is threatening to take the seat.. so voted for the lesser of two evils.. just.

All my local options where much more to my liking.

Have to be up at 6am in the morning.. yeah, I'm not getting much sleep tonight.

I'm off out for a few hours, and when I return, I shall park myself in front of the TV and watch the votes coming in until sunrise.

If I should pop up here at 3am making daft comments, then it's because I'm high on red bull

If not, I'll be back at sunrise.

Gentlemen, I wish you all a good election night. If Clegg gets the boot, then it'll be worth the bleary eyes.

I voted blue, to my eternal disgust. I like Cleggie the most on a personal level, but hate his policies.

I voted Lib Dem at the local elections though. Whenever I read the Eye, it always seems to be Conservative and Labour pigs with their snouts in the trough giving themselves, their family, and their mates all the local contracts, rarely the Lib Dems.

I done a vote. It was a Tory one.


Depressingly, my local polling station was in young offender's service building and there was a foreign chap in there complaining that there was no SNP candidate on his ballot paper.

I live in Salford, England. This country is fethed.

To those of you who have remarked you didn't vote the way you would have liked to, care to shed some light why you did? Was it just tactical voting, or did you feel a vote for the party you really wanted to support would be wasted in your area/in genereal?

I went Labour, which I'm sure won't come as a surprise who has read any of my posts in this thread Milliband may have made one or two cockups, but overall I get the impression he does have the drive and the conviction to bring some degree of change, which is more than I've seen from anyone else.

As an American... I find all this stuff intriguing... even though I have zero fething clue what ya'll are talking about.

I don't know why people say they want change, there's no magic wand waved by picking a new party.

Labour spend all the money. Then people complain that it's bad while the next government have to clear the defict.

Under Labour it was like having a getting a load of credit cards and spending so much that you can't afford to live.

Conservatives come in and put you on a repayment plan so long as you drop Netflix and your Sky subscription, stop eating out, you can afford to live.

Going back to Labour is as though you've nearly cleared most of the credit cards, you see a new deal on a credit card and going on a new splurge

That is a terrible, and dishonest, analogy. Countries are not the same as people, and the finances of countries are not directly comparable to the finances of individuals.

Plus, your narrative contradicts the actual facts!

 whembly wrote:
As an American... I find all this stuff intriguing... even though I have zero fething clue what ya'll are talking about.

Basically you've got 2 major parties. Labour and Concervatives, plus various smaller parties.

Labour was in charge for 15 years and spent increasingly more than it took in tax.

Last election was 5 years ago and no party got enough votes, the Concervativess joined with a smaller party called the Liberal democrats and formed a goverment to lead parliament.

They cut back services and welfare to save money but also lowered taxes mainly in favour of the rich. Their time in office the didn't cut the defict as much as they said they would but managed to reduce it a fair bit (defict means spending more than you take in tax)

The parties in the next 5 years have put out their plans on what they plan on doing.

Concervatives say they will cut more services and will stop having a defict within those 5 years. They also will let the public vote of they want to stay in the EU by 2017

Labour say they will cut services too but not as harshly. They don't plan to stop spending more than they take in taxes. They will also put taxes up. They also don't want the public to have an option to vote on staying in the EU. They think it would be better to stay and don't want to have uncertainty for businesses deciding on coming to the UK.



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 Da Boss wrote:
That is a terrible, and dishonest, analogy. Countries are not the same as people, and the finances of countries are not directly comparable to the finances of individuals.

Plus, your narrative contradicts the actual facts!

How? Labour spent all the money. They left a note saying "sorry there's no money left"

They have always always alway messed up the budget without fail

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Sky News is boasting about their general action coverage for the last 30 years and how they were the first to introduce something new each time (24 hour coverage, fancy computer graphics, HD coverage etc). It seems that this election is so boring, that this time the gimmick iS Behind the Scenes coverage.

That's right, they heard we like coverage, so they're giving us coverage of their coverage so we can watch them cover while they cover.

This time the channel is giving the viewers an even closer look from the other side of the camera. Adam Bolton: "we're gonna show what Sky News is up to behind the scenes with these extra cameras and we're gonna do it live throughout the night".

Useful for journalism students I guess.

I cam trump that. I started to take pictures of people taking pictures of people taking pictures years ago.

It is not actually as interesting as you might think.

 obsidianaura wrote:

How? Labour spent all the money. They left a note saying "sorry there's no money left"

It's almost like there was a massive global financial crisis that required huge amounts of public money to bail out banks.

 obsidianaura wrote:
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How? Labour spent all the money. They left a note saying "sorry there's no money left"

They have always always alway messed up the budget without fail

Actually they haven't but don't let facts get in the way of a good story.

Sorry can you think of a time new labour has serverd a term without having budget deficits?


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 Riquende wrote:

 obsidianaura wrote:

How? Labour spent all the money. They left a note saying "sorry there's no money left"

It's almost like there was a massive global financial crisis that required huge amounts of public money to bail out banks.

And a goverment that preceded over banks which were dangerously exposed to it. Plus an expensive illegal war.

Only under this goverment did we get legislation forcing banks to save capital to bail themselves out.

If that had been in place before the crash we wouldn't have had so much pain in 2008.

Anyway it's too late now everyone's voted and I'm just going to get annoyed.

Looks like it will be the same thing again anyway

Between 1998 and 2003, as shown by this graph by HM Treasury.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8636701.stm

In fact they got more years with more budget surplus than all the Conservative governments since 1980.

And they're off.

Lib dems coming in behind the greens on the first declaration. UkiP beating the conservatives. SNP to win all of Scotland.

Let the gibbering begin. This will be hilarious.

Exit polls show Conservatives get close to a majority for any that are interested

Not fact of course, but it's interesting all the same.

Do I stay up all night? ...no I have a lecture in the morning. Far more important.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
Between 1998 and 2003, as shown by this graph by HM Treasury.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8636701.stm

In fact they got more years with more budget surplus than all the Conservative governments since 1980.

Speaking purely from an economic standpoint, that was due to them inheriting a balanced budget and a growing housing bubble from Major/Thatcher, as opposed to any policies of their own.

If that exit poll is correct - I'm stunned - not unhappy, but it really says to me that labour will never be in government again

 Reaver83 wrote:
If that exit poll is correct - I'm stunned - not unhappy, but it really says to me that labour will never be in government again

I seriously doubt the SNP is going to win EVERY seat in Scotland. I would be extremely surprised if this poll was completely accurate in that regard, at least.

 Reaver83 wrote:
If that exit poll is correct - I'm stunned - not unhappy, but it really says to me that labour will never be in government again

if the current First Past The Post voting system is in place then it's hard to argue against that point.
If the voting system were to change...that would be interesting. But last time the country voted no to that referendum so I don't see FPTP going away anytime soon.

I don't think it will be entirely accurate. I think UKIP will get a few more seats, they did build momentum after winning the European elections. I think Labour will get a few more seats and the SNP won't get every seat in Scotland, the UK stayed the UK. Just my thoughts.

The exit poll is usually regarded as the most accurate of them all, as it's based on hard data gathered from people leaving polling stations (who have actually just voted). Usually about 20,000 odd of them at 240 sites. At the last election, the exit poll was almost identical to the final results. That's not to say it can't go wrong (it did in 92), but it's usually regarded as the most concrete poll there is.

These exit polls are all over the place, so I'm not paying them too much heed (as appealing as the idea of only 10 LD seats is).

What is interesting is in actual results that have come in (Labour 3 for 3 so far), UKIP are alarmingly close to the Tories.

 Paradigm wrote:
These exit polls are all over the place

There's only one.

Sorry, I meant the exit poll and assorted polls/forecasts I've seen pop up. Either way, there seems to be quite a bit of variety between various predicted results.

Or perhaps I'm just in denial as it looks like the Tories are in again!

 Paradigm wrote:
Sorry, I meant the exit poll and assorted polls/forecasts I've seen pop up. Either way, there seems to be quite a bit of variety between various predicted results.

Or perhaps I'm just in denial as it looks like the Tories are in again!

I just watched the question time with Cameron and Miliband, and was surprised at the depth of venom thrown at Miliband compared to Cameron. Cameron managed to spin and squeak his way out of all the difficult spots, but Miliband just kept getting nailed. And then he almost fell over on the way out, which was kind of entertaining to boot.

I think Labour is in deep trouble, generally speaking. No plan, no decent politicians, and no ideals.

No, there's a YouGov exit poll that's much closer to what was expected (Tories down a bit, Labour up a bit, Liberals cut in half, but still with a decent proportion), but that's not the one the media companies paid for, so they aren't using it!