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2015/05/15 17:45:43
Subject: Re:The Political Junkie Thread- UK Edition! Election Aftermath P20+
Gove added: “My office has been asked why we chose to use the science-fictional Warhammer 40,000 rules rather than the original Warhammer Fantasy setting.
welshhoppo wrote: I do wonder if the Left wing will ever give it a rest.
Honestly, if you put this much effort into gaining support for Labour before the election you wouldn't be up a creek without a paddle.
I'm no fan of the Conservatives, but there is something unpleasantly bitter about what I've been seeing on Facebook. I doubt that many of the people who are bewailing how undemocratic the system is would be doing so if their party of choice had won.
Even if we do get electoral reform and a Proportional Representation system, they'd be complaining that it benefits parties they dislike, like UKIP. Can't have it both ways.
4 million votes, 1 MP.
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2015/05/15 17:45:48
Subject: The Political Junkie Thread- UK Edition! Election Aftermath P20+
The first case, a challenge of the government’s right to detain terror suspects without trial, has already been heard on Kulth the War World and ended in the defeat of the Imperium of Man by Tyranid Biomorphs without the right to appeal.
n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
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2015/05/15 18:22:08
Subject: The Political Junkie Thread- UK Edition! Election Aftermath P20+
The first case, a challenge of the government’s right to detain terror suspects without trial, has already been heard on Kulth the War World and ended in the defeat of the Imperium of Man by Tyranid Biomorphs without the right to appeal.
By the inquistion, a terrorist is a heretic and heresy must be punished by blamming.
Therefore all terrorists are to be shot, regardless of heresy.
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2015/05/16 11:55:47
Subject: Re:The Political Junkie Thread- UK Edition! Election Aftermath P20+
Reminds me of a map I saw before the referendum, let me see if I can find it....
That's about 0.06% of the population.
See, you're trying to use people logic. DM uses Mandelogic, which we've established has 2+2=quack. - Aerethan
Putin.....would make a Vulcan Intelligence officer cry. - Jihadin
AFAIK, there is only one world, and it is the real world. - Iron_Captain
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2015/05/17 17:16:21
Subject: The Political Junkie Thread- UK Edition! Election Aftermath P20+
Reminds me of a map I saw before the referendum, let me see if I can find it....
That's about 0.06% of the population.
Isn't that about the same proportion of Scotsman in the UK?
Only off by a factor of 100!
See, you're trying to use people logic. DM uses Mandelogic, which we've established has 2+2=quack. - Aerethan
Putin.....would make a Vulcan Intelligence officer cry. - Jihadin
AFAIK, there is only one world, and it is the real world. - Iron_Captain
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TFOL and proud. Also a Forge World Fan.
I should really paint some of my models instead of browsing forums.
2015/05/17 23:05:00
Subject: The Political Junkie Thread- UK Edition! Election Aftermath P20+
welshhoppo wrote: Yeah there are a good 700,000 scots living in England. There was a big bru ha over the fact that they weren't allowed to vote in the referendum.
To be fair they are obviously no true scotsmen.
However, to return to something like on topic; as someone who works in the NHS with people with chronic conditions I am really not going to enjoy the next 5 years... even if the service I work for is not sold off to private "industry", it will become even more difficult to get funding to help supply equipment, support and assessments for people that need it.
2015/05/18 11:51:14
Subject: The Political Junkie Thread- UK Edition! General Election Discussion P4 Onwards...
Koppo wrote: While Scotland has in the past been the balance of power for Labour for the UK as a whole, simple maths points out that in this instance it would have made no difference.
It rarely does.
Orlanth wrote: You can sum them up as: We didnt get the party we want for the next five years, so we want to destroy a country united since the 8th century.
While only a feeling and not a true movement, it is pretty indicative of how far some distraught Labour voters will stick their bottoms up their backsides.
I think it's more a case of, each of the 4 countries voted entirely different ways, yet because one of them is the biggest that's how all are run. Politically each country is pretty different, with everyone else to the left of England, but because of the size difference their vote is essentially meaningless.
I really hope Sturgeon causes Cameron some awkward moments in the next government, because we're (as a nation) going to be spending a lot of it getting shafted.
2015/05/18 12:27:55
Subject: The Political Junkie Thread- UK Edition! Election Aftermath P20+
welshhoppo wrote: Yeah there are a good 700,000 scots living in England. There was a big bru ha over the fact that they weren't allowed to vote in the referendum.
To be fair they are obviously no true scotsmen.
Give me my drink back! It's all over my screen, thanks to you!
2015/05/24 08:32:34
Subject: The Political Junkie Thread- UK Edition! Election Aftermath P20+
Yep, looks like the Lib Dems could lose their only remaining MP in Scotland following a leak inquiry into and public admission of guilt regarding "Frenchgate"(I hate journalists who make everything a somethinggate). Turns out the fourth-hand memo containing an inaccurate account of a meeting between Nicola Sturgeon and the French ambassador which the Telegraph used to smear the SNP during the election campaign was deliberately leaked by the former Scottish Secretary Alastair Carmichael(and a cookie for you if you solved it), who then lied about having done so on C4 News.
Now there will be an investigation by the Parliamentary Standards Commission, who will be forced to refer Carmichael to the House of Commons to be suspended, which would allow his constituents to call for a byelection. Considering he only took his seat by 807 votes(cut from a majority of 10,000 at the previous election), it's not looking good for ol' Fozzie Bear.
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"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal
2015/05/24 18:51:10
Subject: Re:The Political Junkie Thread- UK Edition! Election Aftermath P20+
Child protection boss paid off with £134k after failing to speak out about abuse by Pakistani gangs is rehired as a consultant within 24 hours on £1k a DAY
Deputy children’s commissioner Sue Berelowitz criticised for not speaking out about sexual abuse by British Pakistani gangs
She took voluntary redundancy from her £99,333-a-year post on April 30 and received a pay-off worth £134,000
But the next day she was rehired to lead inquiry into family child abuse that she had been in charge of in her former role
A controversial child protection chief has quit her job with a six-figure payoff – only to be immediately rehired on almost £1,000 a day.
Deputy children’s commissioner Sue Berelowitz, who was criticised for failing to speak out about sexual abuse by British Pakistani gangs, took voluntary redundancy from her £99,333-a-year post on April 30.
She received a pay-off worth £134,000. But the next day she was rehired as a consultant, leading an inquiry into family child abuse that she had been in charge of in her former role.
The 61-year-old will be paid £960 a day under the new deal and will work for up to nine days a month. It means she will earn almost the same amount as she had been as a full-time employee – for much less work.
Last night, as MPs and victims’ groups described the deal as scandalous, the Treasury launched an inquiry into how it was agreed.
The case illustrated the revolving door culture in Whitehall, the NHS and local councils in which employees their jobs and receive large pay offs, only to be taken back on – often by the same organisation.
The Chancellor last night pledged to crack down on the abuse, putting an upper cap of £95,000 on the amount of redundancy that can be paid.
Keith Vaz, the former head of the Commons home affairs select committee, said the payoff received by Miss Berelowitz was ‘totally unacceptable’.
He added: ‘There is no justification for a public official to receive such a huge sum of money to then continue to do the same work.’ A Treasury spokesman added: ‘It’s wrong for someone to take redundancy payments then be immediately rehired as an external consultant.’
Miss Berelowitz caused controversy in 2012 when she wrote a report in the wake of high-profile abuse cases in Rochdale and Rotherham denying there was a growing number of Asian grooming gangs.
Despite finding that more than a quarter of perpetrators known to the authorities were Asian, Miss Berelowitz said there was no evidence to conclude that there was a particular issue with Asian gangs.
Instead, her report – branded ‘hysterical’ and ‘highly emotional’ – said simply that abuse is carried out by men of all backgrounds.
South African-born Miss Berelowitz started out as a speech and language therapist before gaining a masters degree in social work from Sussex University. The mother of two sons, who lives in a £950,000 house in Brighton with her husband, spent nearly five years as deputy director of children services at West Sussex County Council.
But some of its services were later labelled inadequate by Ofsted. And she caused controversy last year by warning against opening up secretive family courts to public scrutiny, claiming children might commit suicide if their names and troubled lives wereknown to the public.
Neither Miss Berelowitz nor the Office of the Children’s Commissioner were last night available for comment.
Apparently French police have confirmed that an "assassination attempt" was made against Nigel Farage by someone loosening the nuts on all his wheels of his car which made him crash.
Shadow Captain Edithae wrote: Apparently French police have confirmed that an "assassination attempt" was made against Nigel Farage by someone loosening the nuts on all his wheels of his car which made him crash.
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal
2016/01/03 05:11:40
Subject: The Political Junkie Thread- UK Edition! Election Aftermath P20+
The daily mail states it sought him out, not the other way round. It apparently happended back in October. If he's attention seeking, wouldn't he have been crowing about it on the news months ago and been accusing his political opponents?
Admit it, you're jumping to conclusions because you dislike the guy. If this was Alex Salmond, you'd be up in arms.
More likely it was just some crazy stalker with a vendetta.
Attacks on MPs and politicians arent unheard of. One mp was stabbed bya Muslim iirc. John Prescott was punched. Hell, wasnt the Spanish prime minister punched recently?
2016/01/03 05:14:35
Subject: The Political Junkie Thread- UK Edition! Election Aftermath P20+
Well if Youtube is to be believed getting punched is just another day at the office for all Parliamentary systems.
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Shadow Captain Edithae wrote: The daily mail states it sought him out, not the other way round. It apparently happended back in October. If he's attention seeking, wouldn't he have been crowing about it on the news months ago and been accusing his political opponents?
Admit it, you're jumping to conclusions because you dislike the guy. If this was Alex Salmond, you'd be up in arms.
More likely it was just some crazy stalker with a vendetta.
Attacks on MPs and politicians arent unheard of. One mp was stabbed bya Muslim iirc. John Prescott was punched. Hell, wasnt the Spanish prime minister punched recently?
The day I take the Daily Mail's word on anything is the day I paint my bedroom wall with my brains. That said; joke, learn to take one. Evidently using remarks like "Pff" and emotes isn't enough any more, I'll have to start using [IAMONLYJOKINGCALMYERSEL][/IAMONLYJOKINGCALMYERSEL] tags in future for the sake of the especially dour.
As for Alex Salmond; I know some folk actually believe the bollocks in the papers about everyone who votes SNP being neurolinguistically-programmed cultists who venerate Dear Leader Salmond(who's not even the leader any more, but don't let that stop you), but come on man. Hell, someone tried to run Alex Salmond off the road a while back and the most common response from SNP folk on twitter was taking the piss.
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal
2016/01/03 18:50:37
Subject: The Political Junkie Thread- UK Edition! Election Aftermath P20+
I can't find any direct quotes from the French police in that article. When I first read the headline I thought they were dragging up that light aircraft story again.
The day I take the Daily Mail's word on anything is the day I paint my bedroom wall with my brains. That said; joke, learn to take one. Evidently using remarks like "Pff" and emotes isn't enough any more, I'll have to start using [IAMONLYJOKINGCALMYERSEL][/IAMONLYJOKINGCALMYERSEL] tags in future for the sake of the especially dour.
Poe's Law.
2016/01/04 11:45:19
Subject: Re:The Political Junkie Thread- UK Edition! Election Aftermath P20+
Shadow Captain Edithae wrote: Apparently French police have confirmed that an "assassination attempt" was made against Nigel Farage by someone loosening the nuts on all his wheels of his car which made him crash.
"Mr Farage’s Volvo V70 comes with a single locking nut on each wheel which should be immune from interference. But if the other four nuts are loosened, then the remaining one is likely to sheer off as soon as the car is travelling at speed.
Concern : WHEEL MAY BECOME LOOSE
Description : It has been identified that the standard wheel securing bolts may not have undergone the correct hardening process. This will result in corrosion, a noise and/or vibration. If this condition is not rectified, there is a possibility that the wheel may become loose and detach.
Remedial Action : Recall all affected vehicles and replace the standard wheel bolts.
Make: VOLVO CAR
Model : V60, V70, XC70, S80, XC90
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2016/01/04 12:01:39
Subject: Re:The Political Junkie Thread- UK Edition! Election Aftermath P20+
I thought this thread had died a long time ago, but good to see it back.
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2016/01/04 13:18:46
Subject: Re:The Political Junkie Thread- UK Edition! Election Aftermath P20+
Shadow Captain Edithae wrote: Apparently French police have confirmed that an "assassination attempt" was made against Nigel Farage by someone loosening the nuts on all his wheels of his car which made him crash.
"Mr Farage’s Volvo V70 comes with a single locking nut on each wheel which should be immune from interference. But if the other four nuts are loosened, then the remaining one is likely to sheer off as soon as the car is travelling at speed.
Concern : WHEEL MAY BECOME LOOSE
Description : It has been identified that the standard wheel securing bolts may not have undergone the correct hardening process. This will result in corrosion, a noise and/or vibration. If this condition is not rectified, there is a possibility that the wheel may become loose and detach.
Remedial Action : Recall all affected vehicles and replace the standard wheel bolts.
Make: VOLVO CAR
Model : V60, V70, XC70, S80, XC90
Lololol, so the feckless berk likely just didn't bother to maintain his car, and when the wheels literally fell off it he claims it was an assassination attempt. Classic Niggle Farridge
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"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal
2016/01/04 14:53:04
Subject: The Political Junkie Thread- UK Edition! Election Aftermath P20+
