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The Necron Elites section is pretty crowded. Lychguard, Triarch Praetorians, Flayed Ones and Deathmarks all want those prized slots. Does the Stalker make a valid competitor or is he best left on the shelf?

I figure he makes a great centrepiece in a warrior blob. He also has decent firepower either against infantry, or if he takes the heat ray against MCs and tanks. But is this combined with his force multiplier enough to make him occupy one of three Elites slots?

He's very worth it but you have to be careful it's a AV13 Walker so it can get blown up turn one. However he makes the efficiency of large Warrior Blobs insane.

Plus with his Range and the fact he can take a Twin linked H. Gauss he could possibly be held in reserve to come on and give that wonderful bonus to a unit on the front lines.

Combine him with Destroyers. They effectively become BS10. And his Heat ray scares off drop podding armies. And if you want Praetorians, just take the formation. It's even better.

Otherwise, a foot-slogging Infantry based army is where he really shines, but overall I think he's a very good choice.

The change to being able to be a Vehicle Squadron as well makes a single choice more viable if you want to include more than 1.

Take the unit. Sure, pricey for the three guns total the Stalkers themselves have, but that way you can survive the inevitable anti-tank salvo and spread out to buff your entire army without bunching up.

And as said, take a Destroyer Cult combo. The Heavies in particular become functional BS10 with Lascannons that reroll armour penetration and wounds.

Works great with tomb blades too if they have their Twin linked weapons.

Or with Zhandrek with Target priority WL trait effictively makes any units 6" of the stalker and 12" of the WL bs 10(target priority gives all friendly units within 12" re-rol To hits of 1) A 24" diameter bubble of bs 10 is pretty crazy for any necron gunline (24" diameter if you have two or more stalkers)

Hollismason wrote:
The change to being able to be a Vehicle Squadron as well makes a single choice more viable if you want to include more than 1.

wow, I totally missed that...

Yeah reading through them they look like a very solid option. Definitely worth playing and seeing if you like em.

Just played the Judicator Battalion alongside the Destroyer Cult last night. Ridiculous combo. Shredded my friends Orks.

He's really great in large Warrior or Destroyer units. He's AV13 Open Topped, so that sucks,but still, he's a good unit.

 krodarklorr wrote:
Just played the Judicator Battalion alongside the Destroyer Cult last night. Ridiculous combo. Shredded my friends Orks.

Nasty Combo, got a list of it?

Hollismason wrote:

 krodarklorr wrote:
Just played the Judicator Battalion alongside the Destroyer Cult last night. Ridiculous combo. Shredded my friends Orks.

Nasty Combo, got a list of it?

Reclamation Legion

Overlord on a barge: SoL, PS, Phlylactery, GoF, Gauntlet of the Conflagrator
10x Gauss Immortals
11x Warriors
10x Warriors
6x Tomb Blades: Shieldvanes, Gauss Blasters, Nebuloscopes

Judicator Battalion

5x Rod Praetorians
5x Pistol Praetorians
Triarch Stalker w/ HGC

Destroyer Cult

Destroyer Lord: Voidreaper, PS, phylactery, Res orb (Deep struck with Flayed ones)
3x Destroyers
3x Destroyers
3x Destroyers
2x Heavy Destroyers

10x Flayed Ones


I'm going to make a few modifications to this list, like try without the flayed ones, and bring another unit of Tesla Immortals and put the D lord with them, so BS10 Tesla marching down the field. Otherwise, it was effective, and REALLY fun to play.

 krodarklorr wrote:
Just played the Judicator Battalion alongside the Destroyer Cult last night. Ridiculous combo. Shredded my friends Orks.

Thought about using those with Tau... but so expensive

using spyders with them work nice as well since you have a two-way street of usefulness going on. If the stalker gets hit you can repair it with one spyder and gives the spyders better chance to hit with their blast.

That's a good point.. get a nice Scarab Farm going and be shooting out 6 or 7 ST6 Blasts. Good Combo and not too expensive.

An ammo dump could raise a block or 2 of warriors up to an effective bs10 like destroyers.

How do the destroyers become BS10?

 Wolves for the Wolf God wrote:
How do the destroyers become BS10?

BS 10, BS 5 Twin Linked and BS 5 reroll ones are identical: Hit on 2+ with a reroll.

 Wolves for the Wolf God wrote:
How do the destroyers become BS10?

They're BS 4 and have preferred enemy(EVERYTHING!) which lets them re-roll to hit rolls of 1.

Having a stalker near means they're BS5 (hitting on 2+), re-rolling 1's, which is effectively the same as BS10.

Jeeebus.

This is awesome because I'm starting a necron army (had a small one i ditched at beginning of 6th) and i wanted to do a Triarch/Canoptek themed army.


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 krodarklorr wrote:

Hollismason wrote:

 krodarklorr wrote:
Just played the Judicator Battalion alongside the Destroyer Cult last night. Ridiculous combo. Shredded my friends Orks.

Nasty Combo, got a list of it?

Reclamation Legion

Overlord on a barge: SoL, PS, Phlylactery, GoF, Gauntlet of the Conflagrator
10x Gauss Immortals
11x Warriors
10x Warriors
6x Tomb Blades: Shieldvanes, Gauss Blasters, Nebuloscopes

Judicator Battalion

5x Rod Praetorians
5x Pistol Praetorians
Triarch Stalker w/ HGC

Destroyer Cult

Destroyer Lord: Voidreaper, PS, phylactery, Res orb (Deep struck with Flayed ones)
3x Destroyers
3x Destroyers
3x Destroyers
2x Heavy Destroyers

10x Flayed Ones


I'm going to make a few modifications to this list, like try without the flayed ones, and bring another unit of Tesla Immortals and put the D lord with them, so BS10 Tesla marching down the field. Otherwise, it was effective, and REALLY fun to play.

What is your reasoning for the Overlord load out? is he with the rod praetorians?

 Wolves for the Wolf God wrote:


What is your reasoning for the Overlord load out? is he with the rod praetorians?

That's a barge lord.

The Gauntlet of Fire is probably wasted points, but otherwise that's the new standard shooty barge lord loadout. Solid durability, 5 AP3 shots per turn, one turn of ignores cover AP2 template.

Yup, thats how it works.

BS 5 = hit on 2+
BS 6 = hit on 2+, re-roll 1s and hit on 6
BS 7 = hit on 2+, re-roll 1s and hit on 5+
BS 8 = hit on 2+, re-roll 1s and hit on 4+
BS 9 = hit on 2+, re-roll 1s and hit on 3+
BS 10 = hit on 2+, re-roll 1s and hit on 2+

 krodarklorr wrote:

Hollismason wrote:

 krodarklorr wrote:
Just played the Judicator Battalion alongside the Destroyer Cult last night. Ridiculous combo. Shredded my friends Orks.

Nasty Combo, got a list of it?

Reclamation Legion

Overlord on a barge: SoL, PS, Phlylactery, GoF, Gauntlet of the Conflagrator
10x Gauss Immortals
11x Warriors
10x Warriors
6x Tomb Blades: Shieldvanes, Gauss Blasters, Nebuloscopes

Judicator Battalion

5x Rod Praetorians
5x Pistol Praetorians
Triarch Stalker w/ HGC

Destroyer Cult

Destroyer Lord: Voidreaper, PS, phylactery, Res orb (Deep struck with Flayed ones)
3x Destroyers
3x Destroyers
3x Destroyers
2x Heavy Destroyers

10x Flayed Ones


I'm going to make a few modifications to this list, like try without the flayed ones, and bring another unit of Tesla Immortals and put the D lord with them, so BS10 Tesla marching down the field. Otherwise, it was effective, and REALLY fun to play.

Look maw, no wraiths!

I think this is a solid list. I might consider more Tomb Blades for the Flayed Ones and Zhandrekh for his warlord trait abuse.

Why the barge lord then ? A knight will make short work of a barge lord. In my meta; everyone and their cousin has a knight.

Zhandrekh is an amazing support piece ,

 Wolves for the Wolf God wrote:
Why the barge lord then ? A knight will make short work of a barge lord. In my meta; everyone and their cousin has a knight.

Zhandrekh is an amazing support piece ,

In my meta no one uses Knights, plus I would never willingly play against someone in a casual setting with a Knight, as I despise them. Plus, Tank Hunting Destroyers and Heavy Destroyers will take care of it from 24" away. And the reason I wanted the barge lord was even more mobility and AP3 shooting.


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Zimko wrote:


Look maw, no wraiths!

I think this is a solid list. I might consider more Tomb Blades for the Flayed Ones and Zhandrekh for his warlord trait abuse.

I've always thought Wraiths are good fun and everything, but there is so much else in this codex now that is awesome, so I rarely use them. And I would rather bring a unit of Tesla Immortals to put the D lord with, so they can essentially be BS10 as well, and get a ton of hits at 24".


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 Wolves for the Wolf God wrote:


What is your reasoning for the Overlord load out? is he with the rod praetorians?

He can't go with the Praetorians, as I believe he does not have IC. However, my reasoning was more mobility, extra AP3 shooting, and I wanted the 12" bubble of reroll morale checks. I thought it seemed useful in a footslog army.

Praetorians are insanely survivable in the Decurion , they have 1 less ST than Wraiths, but can get AP2 ST5 weapons or Rending ST5 weapons.

They're just a all together different CC unit, but are incredible all the same.

Like everyone goes nuts over Wraiths but seriously, Praetorians and Flayed Ones are some seriously awesome CC units as well.

Hollismason wrote:
Praetorians are insanely survivable in the Decurion , they have 1 less ST than Wraiths, but can get AP2 ST5 weapons or Rending ST5 weapons.

They're just a all together different CC unit, but are incredible all the same.

Like everyone goes nuts over Wraiths but seriously, Praetorians and Flayed Ones are some seriously awesome CC units as well.

Thats why I hate seeing everyone and their mother running Wraithwing. This codex has sooooo much more to offer now. I would rather run Flayed Ones and Praetorians than Wraiths anyday, though the Canoptek Harvest is rather run.

 Wolves for the Wolf God wrote:
Why the barge lord then ? A knight will make short work of a barge lord. In my meta; everyone and their cousin has a knight.

Zhandrekh is an amazing support piece ,

A bargelord should never try to go one on one with a Knight and a Knight should never catch a bargelord. You should move 12" and then flat out another 18" for positioning in round one. If he does try to play Tag with you, you have just tied up his expensive monster with a cheap lord.

Do destroyer lords fare better?

 Sir Arun wrote:
Do destroyer lords fare better?

Against Knights. No. That D weapon is not worth going into Melee with anything other than tarpits for us now. DLords would be swatted with little effort.