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Those renders remind me that I keep putting off buying those tops for my wife.

However, I wouldn't want to buy a mini dressed like that. Power armor, please.

^^ Seriously. I don't even have boobs, and I know that one measly strap is going to do feth all as soon as she starts walking around, let alone fighting.

I have a bad feeling that the fantasy and sci-fi armies are going to share a lot of sculpts, with minor tweaks to differentiate them. That repentia lookalike in particular looks like a fantasy mini with power armor boots and weapons added.

Dat Incubi (though, being female, shouldn't that be a Succubus?). Dammit, now I'm going to have to back this one, too.

Nope. Male succubi were a thing until they were retconned.

These look awesome! Faith restored. Now to find a way to get some money. Anybody wanna buy some Space Marines?

Well I was pretty sure I was going to put in for this, but that horned skull helmet figure just did it for me.

Here's to hearing my wallet weep.

I'll definitely be in for whatever the minimum to get access to the PM is. As much as I like those renders, 2 weeks won't allow me to put in a solid pledge here, since I have other bills to pay atm.

My planned budget for this KS just took at serious hit with those previews. I'm gonna have to rethink this thing, hadn't considered straying from Sisters before.

Wanna wait and see the Fantasy versions of Sisters... that's all I'd be into.

HAHAHAHAHAHA your all sucked in and are gonna pledge despite the 280 something posts of bitching (that i sorta contributed to as well ) in the other forum ..

Fools!! Fools!!! your need for scantly clad miniature proxies will be the death of all of you .

I actually have stopped pledging to other ks just cause i knew i would fold and drop money on this one. ans i haven't received ONE mini from the first one yet

JOIN ME IN MADNESS!!!!!!

cough.......sorry

It's all of us Ray, on the plus side you do have 14 minis on the way!

 Jimsolo wrote:
Nope. Male succubi were a thing until they were retconned.

I was actually referring to the type of demon. An Incubus is the male equivalent of a Succubus. In other words, it's a male demon that seduces women whereas the Succubus is a female demon that seduces men. So, no, you can't have a female Incubus, nor a male Succubus.

 Barzam wrote:

 Jimsolo wrote:
Nope. Male succubi were a thing until they were retconned.

I was actually referring to the type of demon. An Incubus is the male equivalent of a Succubus. In other words, it's a male demon that seduces women whereas the Succubus is a female demon that seduces men. So, no, you can't have a female Incubus, nor a male Succubus.

Granted. But these are "not Dark Eldar," rather than demons. And within that context, an Incubus is a follower of the fallen Phoenix Lord Arhra (and one of the few "lawful" evil aspects among DE society) while a Succubus is one of the tripartite leaders of a Wych Cult.

And in that context, you could (rarely) have male succubi up until the 7th Ed codex, and have always been able to have female Incubi. In theory. There hasn't actually been any female models. Unless the current Incubi are women, just ones without boob armor.

Either way, it's a damn fine looking model! It looks like it would fit in perfectly with an existing Incubi squad.

 Barzam wrote:

 Jimsolo wrote:
Nope. Male succubi were a thing until they were retconned.

I was actually referring to the type of demon. An Incubus is the male equivalent of a Succubus. In other words, it's a male demon that seduces women whereas the Succubus is a female demon that seduces men. So, no, you can't have a female Incubus, nor a male Succubus.

What Jimsolo said in the post above this one is true, but have you considered that they might be lesbian elves? What would that make them?

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
It's all of us Ray, on the plus side you do have 14 minis on the way!

and I received said shipping notice just this very evening. Somewhat excited. Also as a marketing Major...this was SUPER smart of them to do . Props to whoever their marketing person is for coming up with this idea to get some good will prior to a new KS


You think any of these girls would work for Bloodbowl?


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 Frozen Ocean wrote:

 Barzam wrote:

 Jimsolo wrote:
Nope. Male succubi were a thing until they were retconned.

I was actually referring to the type of demon. An Incubus is the male equivalent of a Succubus. In other words, it's a male demon that seduces women whereas the Succubus is a female demon that seduces men. So, no, you can't have a female Incubus, nor a male Succubus.

What Jimsolo said in the post above this one is true, but have you considered that they might be lesbian elves? What would that make them?

Hot?

 Frozen Ocean wrote:

 Barzam wrote:

 Jimsolo wrote:
Nope. Male succubi were a thing until they were retconned.

I was actually referring to the type of demon. An Incubus is the male equivalent of a Succubus. In other words, it's a male demon that seduces women whereas the Succubus is a female demon that seduces men. So, no, you can't have a female Incubus, nor a male Succubus.

What Jimsolo said in the post above this one is true, but have you considered that they might be lesbian elves? What would that make them?

I'd say her job-description would still be be a succubus, albeit one "playing for the other team".

I admit being rather interested in that incubi-style (as in the Dark Eldar elit unit) mini but I probably wait for retail rather than back this. I don't have the spare money to keep frozen for years.

Does anyone know if that Necro-priestess from the previous KS is on the way anytime soon? Lovet the concept art for that one.

 Alpharius wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:

xera32 wrote:
Salamanders and Imperial Fists are the only 30k termies to get a stormshield equivalent.

Alpha Legion too.

Damn straight!

Sadly, I checked the rules and no, their specialist Terminator squads do not have access to a hammer and shield combo, they just have axes and volkite weaponry.

rayphoton wrote:
Hot?

How respectful and not crass at all.

Zywus wrote:

 Frozen Ocean wrote:

 Barzam wrote:

 Jimsolo wrote:
Nope. Male succubi were a thing until they were retconned.

I was actually referring to the type of demon. An Incubus is the male equivalent of a Succubus. In other words, it's a male demon that seduces women whereas the Succubus is a female demon that seduces men. So, no, you can't have a female Incubus, nor a male Succubus.

What Jimsolo said in the post above this one is true, but have you considered that they might be lesbian elves? What would that make them?

I'd say her job-description would still be be a succubus, albeit one "playing for the other team".

Because Barzam specified "seduces males" and "seduces females", I was a little curious if this definition relied on the gender that the demon goes for, or the gender of the demon, or if was just a superfluous detail that overlooked homosexuality. Still, that is very obviously intended to be a Dark Eldar Incubi, and that is a very specific thing. It's the same idea as the name "Centurion"; the big Space Marine suits have absolutely nothing to do with Roman Legionaries (except in aesthetic, sometimes) but it's still their name.

 Frozen Ocean wrote:

rayphoton wrote:
Hot?

How respectful and not crass at all.

That was rude...apologies. I am sadly still a product of my generation sometimes. Thank you for calling me on it

 rayphoton wrote:

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
It's all of us Ray, on the plus side you do have 14 minis on the way!

and I received said shipping notice just this very evening. Somewhat excited. Also as a marketing Major...this was SUPER smart of them to do . Props to whoever their marketing person is for coming up with this idea to get some good will prior to a new KS


You think any of these girls would work for Bloodbowl?

Yep, as someone who's done marketing and sales professionally this was exactly what I would have done. For the 1st Wave/2nd Wave only backers it closes their order in the final sense. So that means no more tracking them, they're off the books, over and done. It then mollifies us poor bastards in Wave 3, because we have something in hand now. We're not waiting for a pile of toy soldiers that just never seem to come, we have part of our order in hand, and with any luck by the time we start receiving them and in my case and I'm sure the case of several others, assembling and putting paint to metal/resin, they'll be starting to ship Wave 3 orders in even more volume.

With a little conversion work? Easily. You just need hands without weapons.

...Why oh why did I look at those teaser screenshots. So many beautiful minis, I think I'll finally be unable to hold myself and seriously support this KS.

I need those scantly clad sci-fi miniatures in my life.

 BrookM wrote:

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 Alpharius wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:

xera32 wrote:
Salamanders and Imperial Fists are the only 30k termies to get a stormshield equivalent.

Alpha Legion too.

Damn straight!

Sadly, I checked the rules and no, their specialist Terminator squads do not have access to a hammer and shield combo, they just have axes and volkite weaponry.

I'm guessing it was a reference to their special rule 'the rewards of treason'. It basically allows you to take any of the fancy legion specific units from any other legion, with the legiones astartes (alpha legion) instead of the legion the unit comes from, as an elites choice. Basically if someone else is taking it and it isn't a character or a unique choice then the alphas can use it too, that includes the previously mentioned imperial fist and salamanders termies. It's also yet another reason 30k alpha legion are forged from pure awesome.

So the repentia still have the gigantic blocky powerboots that don't match anything else. What a shame.

 rayphoton wrote:

 Frozen Ocean wrote:

rayphoton wrote:
Hot?

How respectful and not crass at all.

That was rude...apologies. I am sadly still a product of my generation sometimes. Thank you for calling me on it

I am very appreciative of the fact that you apologised. A lot of people just get angry when called out on things, and that makes me sad.

Anyway, I am absolutely getting a whole unit of those not-Incubi to use as Incubi. I don't even play Dark Eldar, but it's worth it. Unbound is wonderful for things like this.

 Frozen Ocean wrote:

 rayphoton wrote:

 Frozen Ocean wrote:

rayphoton wrote:
Hot?

How respectful and not crass at all.

That was rude...apologies. I am sadly still a product of my generation sometimes. Thank you for calling me on it

I am very appreciative of the fact that you apologised. A lot of people just get angry when called out on things, and that makes me sad.

Anyway, I am absolutely getting a whole unit of those not-Incubi to use as Incubi. I don't even play Dark Eldar, but it's worth it. Unbound is wonderful for things like this.

It's ridiculous and puritanical to expect someone to apologize for thinking something is hot or attractive.

I won't. It is hot.

Also, get a sense of humor.

 Frozen Ocean wrote:

 Barzam wrote:

 Jimsolo wrote:
Nope. Male succubi were a thing until they were retconned.

I was actually referring to the type of demon. An Incubus is the male equivalent of a Succubus. In other words, it's a male demon that seduces women whereas the Succubus is a female demon that seduces men. So, no, you can't have a female Incubus, nor a male Succubus.

What Jimsolo said in the post above this one is true, but have you considered that they might be lesbian elves? What would that make them?

The most photographed cosplayers at Comicon?

The Dark Elves are all just a little too porny and not enough Khorney for my tastes. But the power armor looks great. I'm even fin with the huge Super Mario Movie boots.

 BrookM wrote:
Sadly, I checked the rules and no, their specialist Terminator squads do not have access to a hammer and shield combo, they just have axes and volkite weaponry.

Check the Alpha Legion's unique Rites of War one more time.


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The minis seem to me to just reinforce the idea that "sex sells".

Some of these are fantastic, you know, the ones actually wearing anything remotely consistent with what a warrior would wear into battle.

What is this? A Sports Illustrated photoshoot?

 Ashiraya wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Sadly, I checked the rules and no, their specialist Terminator squads do not have access to a hammer and shield combo, they just have axes and volkite weaponry.

Check the Alpha Legion's unique Rites of War one more time.


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 Ignatius-Grulgor wrote:

 BrookM wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:

xera32 wrote:
Salamanders and Imperial Fists are the only 30k termies to get a stormshield equivalent.

Alpha Legion too.

Damn straight!

Sadly, I checked the rules and no, their specialist Terminator squads do not have access to a hammer and shield combo, they just have axes and volkite weaponry.

I'm guessing it was a reference to their special rule 'the rewards of treason'. It basically allows you to take any of the fancy legion specific units from any other legion, with the legiones astartes (alpha legion) instead of the legion the unit comes from, as an elites choice. Basically if someone else is taking it and it isn't a character or a unique choice then the alphas can use it too, that includes the previously mentioned imperial fist and salamanders termies. It's also yet another reason 30k alpha legion are forged from pure awesome.

Lemme guess, they need to be the primary detachment though? If so, sadly no deal, as I play Solar Auxilia first and foremost.

 rayphoton wrote:

 Frozen Ocean wrote:

 Barzam wrote:

 Jimsolo wrote:
Nope. Male succubi were a thing until they were retconned.

I was actually referring to the type of demon. An Incubus is the male equivalent of a Succubus. In other words, it's a male demon that seduces women whereas the Succubus is a female demon that seduces men. So, no, you can't have a female Incubus, nor a male Succubus.

What Jimsolo said in the post above this one is true, but have you considered that they might be lesbian elves? What would that make them?

Hot?

*Snort*

Well played sir, well played. Other acceptable responses include "Lesbian elves?...


Moving on.

I don't think that anyone can accuse me of being an apologist for RH (see signature), but I'm going to come out and say it: I'm leaning towards backing this thing. We're not in the same age of Kickstarter and crowdfunding that we were in when they ran the campaign, I'd say for better and worse, but... let's be honest, it's been mostly for the worse.

Right now I think the biggest issue for funding anything like these programs is a) can they deliver, and b) does it make sense to buy so far ahead of time?

RH may be infuriating, they may never take feedback, they may capriciously change models after you've paid for them, they may be rude, condescending and in many ways act like a real life cartoon of how the rest of the world perceives the French/artistes, but... but. They actually have delivered (if you paid a load for shipping, that is), and once they meandered their way to finalizing their designs they do have pride in their product.

The thing I think people most need to be aware of is that RH is not going to change things for you on the design front. So if you see something in the campaign that you like, go for it. If you see something that you (and maybe a lot of people) think is a little "off"... yeah, don't pledge for that and think it's going to get fixed later.

Buzzsaw, all I can say is, I am very much looking forward to your post-mortem on this one, perhaps along with a comparison of how the first went and if they've made use of the experience gained.