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Ivara1 wrote:

Requizen wrote:

Ivara1 wrote:
I just bought the Dark Vengeance set with my bro - seems like our armies are pretty weak according to you guys, haha.

Don't worry, CSM are getting some love with the Daemonkin books, and there's rumors that both of those armies are in for an update at some point or another.

Is it easy to combine CSM and Daemons?

Super easy. Since they're Battle Brothers, you just need a HQ and some Troops from each. Bam, throw em together for max effect.

Requizen wrote:

Ivara1 wrote:

Requizen wrote:

Ivara1 wrote:
I just bought the Dark Vengeance set with my bro - seems like our armies are pretty weak according to you guys, haha.

Don't worry, CSM are getting some love with the Daemonkin books, and there's rumors that both of those armies are in for an update at some point or another.

Is it easy to combine CSM and Daemons?

Super easy. Since they're Battle Brothers, you just need a HQ and some Troops from each. Bam, throw em together for max effect.

Yeah, every battle brother army is super easy to combine this edition

I voted sisters of battle simply due to the current state of their rules. Beyond that it's hard to say which is the worst army.

A lot of people are saying Dark Angels are bad but I've seen some good stuff from them. Deathwing and Ravenwing are still very viable. Sure their fliers are less than stellar but they make an exceptional allied force to any other Imperial army.

I voted Dark Angels. Also Orks are not a bottom tier army from what i've seen though people f'in hate the little buggers.

Can't really tell which is the worst codex. But as a long term SOB Player, i can tell their current codex isn't weak, but it definately lacks variation, there are just some things that don't see play (penitent engine, repentia or even the canoness...), so you're gonna stick with what works (sisters in rhinos, retributors, seraphim and excorzists, the obvois hq coice beeing Celestine...). Ofc you can always allie the whole Imperium and invite some friends but looking at just their codex it lacks viable options, there isn't even a single flyer or a frickin Land Raider

It just feels sort of onesided to play them.

Multiple codexes are eak atm. Which i realy dont understand. More better armies means more sales.... But whatever GW..

The one i am most pissed about are orks.

I mean come on.. Removing cybork invul saves? MAJOR FAIL. Normal nobz became even more useless. Independent characters became much weaker.

I still dont get it why a warboss doesnt comes with a standard 4+ armor save. You want to tell me that the toughest git in an ork army doesnt have some nice shiny armor? Noooo lets give every ork a crappy save.. Unless they pay almost the whole units costs in points for a 2+ save. Whatever..

I think removing the invul saves was the heaviest blow.. What orks need imo is the invul save option back on at leasts our independent characters. Those die damn fast these days.

Would want to peer into the minds of those who picked Eldar, Necron or Tau. There's subjective things and there's pushing it.

 RunicFIN wrote:
Would want to peer into the minds of those who picked Eldar, Necron or Tau. There's subjective things and there's pushing it.

Well. Or they're joking.

 RunicFIN wrote:
Would want to peer into the minds of those who picked Eldar, Necron or Tau. There's subjective things and there's pushing it.

What about Grey Knights? They're far more powerful than Tau.

Dark Angels. They get the mediocre stuff from Codex: Space Marines and pay more for them.

Or by worst, they mean least likely to provide a fun game, not least likely to win?

I love my footdar, but many would prefer to never face Eldar.

This thread makes me cry.
My armies are Tyranids, Dark Angels and Orks. :(

Looking forward to new DA codex but do have a blast with the current one.
I might not always win with them but I do get some close and fun games. I do find that trip-wing makes for a better game than mono-wing. Marines for my backline, Deathwing into their faces and Black Knights zooming around everywhere. Much fun!

I'm a DA player they are my favorite army fluff and look wise I have an entire battle company and pretty much every model that has come out and I have to agree even that they suck compared to the other codex marines. I really hope we get an update soon I've had to start branching out to other marine allies to fill in the gaps which are many! So sad to say that yes my DA are the weakest

I voted Mechanicus. Because you said not to even try.