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 Spiral Arm Studios wrote:
The Epirian Scarecrow is revealed (properly!)

These guys look amazing! I was already a pretty big fan of the scarecrows, and this paintjob makes them look absolutely stellar.

I'm not the biggest fan of the shoulder-mounted gun, I just think it looks too big. I might convert it down to something smaller so it's more in-proportion with the rest of the robot.

Still, quite pumped.

I think moving the gun back slightly to weight it on the back more, and adding in a long barrel with a suppressor with some rod and tube would look freakin bad-ass. Posting it to be squatting a bit and leaning into the fire even more so!

That or making it underslung on the left arm would work.

Either way, its definitely serviceable. It definitely looks like a re-purposed civilian model, as opposed to the purpose built Hunter.

 Grey Templar wrote:
That or making it underslung on the left arm would work.

Either way, its definitely serviceable. It definitely looks like a re-purposed civilian model, as opposed to the purpose built Hunter.

I agree putting it on the arm would look better IMHO

Are these the main 2 different heads or those the sprue have more?

I think it would look better coming out of a back supported system, coming up over the shoulder.
The current set up over the shoulder makes it look unbalanced, and slapping it onto the left arm, whether under slung or replacing the forearm like the right gun, would make it look too streamlined and less unique

Thanks for those replies about the glue earlier ya'll. I just use Zap-a-gap right now, so if there's something better I could be using, that's a good tip I might not have run across elsewhere. Appreciate it.

I will likely add some extra terrain sprues to my order before the final days on the KS, and in my own head I really am formulating a way to make my Space Donut Shop already along with other extremely important buildings that will need defending like a Space Pizza place and of course a Space Beer Barn. Oooh, maybe a Space Jiffy Lube. You know, for the robots. Hrmmm. Man, now I gotta go pick up some foamcore.

That other cement stuff won't melt foamcore will it?

 Phyrekzhogos wrote:
That other cement stuff won't melt foamcore will it?

Yes, it will eat it.

Plastic cement (aka polystyrene cement) won't work on foamcore. It's just for gluing plastic to plastic. If you get a particularly weak one, it might glue the foam part of foamcore without dissilving too much of the foam, but I wouldn't count on it.

I use plastic cement for plastic to plastic, superglue for plastic to the paper part of the foamcore, and 'foam glue' (Link - This isn't the specific one I use, but similar stuff) for gluing plastic to the foam, foamcore to foamcore or for sealing the foam for painting.

On the other hand, the plastic cement will do a great job of making your foamcore building look battle damaged.

I actually like the shoulder mounted gun. I assume when firing it recoils.

I wonder if part of the reason the big overhang looks odd is because its on a humanoid frame?

The shoulder gun looks far forwards seen from this angle but we can't see the attachment to the back of the shoulder, that might make it look more balanced. However there are various ways to adapt it, as mentioned above.

Thanks for all the positive comments everyone.

We have some more fiction incoming in today's update - a short story about the Scarecrow to go with the longer Hunter story from a few days ago. You can read today's story by Tomas L. Martin directly in the Kickstarter update:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/medge/maelstroms-edge-a-next-gen-sci-fi-miniatures-warga/posts/1229891

I think the issue comes from when you view the "barrel" of the gun. it's big and blocky, and we tend to forget it's the future.

The front "Barrel" of the gun may actually be some sort of lightweight material, That is extremely light, and doesn't cause the weapon to be off balance on the shoulder.

That being said, the biggest issue is it looks off balance, like the scarecrow should face plant. That's my only issue.

But as everyone's pointed out, there are tons of ways to modify this. So, there's no issues.

I'm still debating. Should I go a Megaman Theme with these? maybe a "Wizard of OZ - Strawman" theme? Or maybe I should go some sort of Horror theme, with rust and blood dripping off these half decayed Mechs?

So many choices...

To me it gives a hint of the classic 80s transformers vibe. More than a dozen variants were tried with 3D prints to determine the optimal size and shape of that gun, and we are definitely happy with how it looks on the model. It is a Maglock Railrifle, so the entire front is lightweight and mainly shielding. The placement is trivial to change and because there is good detail on all 6 sides, you can re-angle it to any position you'd like without it needing much effort, pivoting up being one of the easiest choices. The gun also nestles in to the shoulderpad in a neat fashion looking like part of the shoulder rather than being a standalone/swappable weapon if you choose to paint it that way.

Speaking of 80's transformer.

I like the scarecrows, they're kind of creepy. They remind me of the Endermen from Minecraft. Will other options to buy miniatures become available? What if someone just wanted to buy a box of Epirians to tinker with and paint?

On the subject of poly cement: my recommendation would be Tamiya. They do a 40ml glass bottle, which is very thin, and it comes with a brush applicator, so you can be very sparing and precise with it. Never any excess or stringy bits like you get with tubes.

I use both liquid and the thicker poly cements; I find they both have their uses.

I remember using the thicker stuff on the old 4th ed Fantasy High Elf bowmen and using the stringiness to create quick bow strings, they actually looked pretty cool.

Looking at the Hunter, I'm wondering how difficult it would be to make it look like an ED-209.

"You have 20 seconds to comply!"

You'd have to invert the legs and do much more work than I'd
ever be willing to do.

Was just looking through Kickstarter, thought it looked cool, found out it was made by you guys

Always wanted to be with something since the beginning, so why not?

I realize you probably can't talk about the other three factions too in detail, though I am curious as to what they entail; the Mechs look awesome, but neither of the factions really do it for me aesthetically (Not a knock on them, just not my personal taste).

Anything particularily.... Chaotic, coming out?

 Slarg232 wrote:
Was just looking through Kickstarter, thought it looked cool, found out it was made by you guys

Always wanted to be with something since the beginning, so why not?

I realize you probably can't talk about the other three factions too in detail, though I am curious as to what they entail; the Mechs look awesome, but neither of the factions really do it for me aesthetically (Not a knock on them, just not my personal taste).

Anything particularily.... Chaotic, coming out?

From what I hear, We won't see a third army at least until the box set comes to stores. Even then It may be some time after for a third army.

It seems things are going to be well spaced out, and a third army won't come to be until it is well balanced.

 Vanguard-13 wrote:

 Slarg232 wrote:
Was just looking through Kickstarter, thought it looked cool, found out it was made by you guys

Always wanted to be with something since the beginning, so why not?

I realize you probably can't talk about the other three factions too in detail, though I am curious as to what they entail; the Mechs look awesome, but neither of the factions really do it for me aesthetically (Not a knock on them, just not my personal taste).

Anything particularily.... Chaotic, coming out?

From what I hear, We won't see a third army at least until the box set comes to stores. Even then It may be some time after for a third army.

It seems things are going to be well spaced out, and a third army won't come to be until it is well balanced.

Mostly worried about aesthetics.

A warped "Possessed" like faction would be rather BA. Just a thought.

And balance is of the utmost importance. I would rather not see any of the other armies till they are balanced indeed.

Knowing very little about the other factions as we do, I think the closest match to that description would be the Karists.

The Epirians being corporation contractors, the currently unrevealed Broken being rebels, and I'm not sure what the last faction has been called or what their "thing" is as the mention of them in the book was so brief, but they didn't seem to match that kind of thing.

The Karists are probably the closest match, using the unstable cybel energy and the constantly shifting and mutating Angels.

Tibbsy wrote:
Knowing very little about the other factions as we do, I think the closest match to that description would be the Karists.

The Epirians being corporation contractors, the currently unrevealed Broken being rebels, and I'm not sure what the last faction has been called or what their "thing" is as the mention of them in the book was so brief, but they didn't seem to match that kind of thing.

The Karists are probably the closest match, using the unstable cybel energy and the constantly shifting and mutating Angels.

Fair enough

Though I meant like melting flesh/deformed "Warped Possessed" when I said that

 Slarg232 wrote:

Tibbsy wrote:
Knowing very little about the other factions as we do, I think the closest match to that description would be the Karists.

The Epirians being corporation contractors, the currently unrevealed Broken being rebels, and I'm not sure what the last faction has been called or what their "thing" is as the mention of them in the book was so brief, but they didn't seem to match that kind of thing.

The Karists are probably the closest match, using the unstable cybel energy and the constantly shifting and mutating Angels.

Fair enough

Though I meant like melting flesh/deformed "Warped Possessed" when I said that

Supposedly there will be an alien faction eventually as well, and supposedly they will be very weird. So maybe they'll be your speed.

Another day, another update!

We've just added some bare plastic model photos as requested, along with two watch-us-build-the-model videos. Check it out on kickstarter!

ED-209 looking more and more possible with those Suppressor Machineguns

 Grey Templar wrote:
ED-209 looking more and more possible with those Suppressor Machineguns

The legs and feet are separate, right? So you can just swap the legs so that they are backwards, but attach the feet forwards-facing, and you're most of the way there.

I know you guys have heard this a lot, but the Hunter and Scarecrow designs were nailed. They look amazing.

They look simple to put together as well, which is a plus.


Also, what was that super glue holder you were using?

Okay, that does it. I'm pledging this...

Question though, as I don't want to dig through 65 pages: Was something said about the overall game mechanics? I hope the gameplay is somewhat more fluid than 40k, but that shouldn't be difficult.

Slarg232 wrote:I know you guys have heard this a lot, but the Hunter and Scarecrow designs were nailed. They look amazing.

They look simple to put together as well, which is a plus.

Also, what was that super glue holder you were using?

Thanks! That is Revell Contact Pro polystyrene cement. Definitely my favourite polystyrene cement applicator, though the tube does get clogged once in a while, it is pretty easy to clean out with a knife.

Kosake wrote:Okay, that does it. I'm pledging this...

Question though, as I don't want to dig through 65 pages: Was something said about the overall game mechanics? I hope the gameplay is somewhat more fluid than 40k, but that shouldn't be difficult.

Thanks! Here's an overview of what makes the game special (alternate activation, etc):