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2015/04/17 08:17:11
Subject: Re:Star Wars: The Force Awakens Official Teaser #2
I don't know if anybody else noticed this, but when I watched the trailer for the 17th time
I noticed a funny turn of phrase.
When Luke was talking about the force, he mentioned he has it, his sister has it etc etc
and then
MY FATHER HAS IT...
That's not past tense. Past tense would be, he had it..
Given that we've seen Vader's mask, and given that we know that Liam Neeson, Anakin, et al came back as ghosts...
Could we be seeing Anakin in these films. Maybe in the Yoda role guiding people on?
Pure speculation....but...
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
2015/04/17 09:40:59
Subject: Re:Star Wars: The Force Awakens Official Teaser #2
... Gonna assume that was a "spare" vader helmet or something ? Or has that person been to Endor ?
.. One gathers that the desert world is indeed not Tatooine..... did kinda wonder if it was in fact Endor or at least Endor after the 2nd Deathstar and all the rest of the space battle came crashing down onto it and turned it into an irradiated wasteland
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2015/04/17 09:44:31
Subject: Re:Star Wars: The Force Awakens Official Teaser #2
Can you feel it? There has been an awakening… it’s as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in joy. A new trailer for ‘Star Wars: The Force Awakens’ has been unleashed and - much to the relief of fans around the world - it’s magnificent.
Watch it for yourself below.
This new teaser reveals a lot more of ‘Episode VII’ than the first trailer, so there’s a lot to process. Here’s everything we spotted in the new trailer. Is there anything we missed?
Fallen Empire
The first shot of the trailer reveals a downed Star Destroyer but also a crashed X-Wing too which suggests both the rebels and the Empire suffered serious losses in the years following ‘Return of the Jedi’.
Family affair
Mark Hamill’s voice over hints that we’ll be meeting a new member of the Skywalker clan, presumably Daisy Ridley’s character Rey as you see a female hand being handed a lightsaber. We’re guessing this is the daughter of either Luke or Leia (could Han Solo be the father?!) - “The force is strong in my family, my father has it, I have it, my sister has it, you have that power too.”
Update: It’s now been confirmed that the voice over is actually lifted from ‘Return of the Jedi’
Vader
Here’s Vader’s destroyed helmet. Early rumours suggested the lead villain of the film is a collector of Sith and Jedi artefacts. How they retrieved this from his funeral pyre on Endor is a mystery yet to be solved.
Old pals
This must be Luke Skywalker; the robot hand is a dead giveaway. We’re not sure where this is supposed to be but R2-D2 is there to keep his old master company.
CGI character
The person handing the lightsaber over appears to be a CGI or animatronic creation with orange skin, so we assume this is Lupita Nyong’o’s character as she’s long rumoured to be playing a mo-capped role. It looks like she’s passing the weapon to Rey, but it could just as easily be Leia.
Recognise the lightsaber?
It’s the lightsaber passed on to Luke by Obi Wan in ‘A New Hope’. Luke lost it when his hand was chopped off by Vader on Bespin in ‘Empire Strikes Back’, so how did it end up here? Is this what drives the plot forward?
A squadron of X-Wings, led by Oscar Isaac’s badass pilot Poe Dameron, swoop low over a lake on a mystery temperate planet.
Here we get another brief look at Kylo Ren wielding his now infamous cross-blade lightsaber. You can see Stormtroopers behind him in what looks like an encampment.
Now we see Rey and John Boyega’s Finn running away from a TIE fighter in the distance, with the adorable BB-8 trailing behind. Rey is a scavenger, could this junkyard be her home?
Here’s our first look at Kylo Ren’s face up close. He wears a mask, but we think it’s Adam Driver underneath the costume. Again, he’s backed up by Stormtroopers and appears to be rounding people up.
This is one of our favourite shots in the trailer. A mysterious figure on the stage is addressing hundreds of Stormtroopers with a huge red banner behind him.
You can see a new type of trooper in the distance with what looks like a flamethrower, and you can also see the new, cool looking black TIE Fighters on the left too. Who is commanding the troops? We don’t know yet.
Now we get another awesome action shot showing some TIE Fighters attacking Storm Troopers on some sort of huge space ship. One of the good guys must have stolen it, could it be why John Boyega’s character is disguised as a Stormtrooper?
This fearsome looking chrome Stormtrooper is said to be the character played by Game of Thrones star Gwendoline Christie, codenamed by rumour sites as Captain Phasma. But where is she? The walls look like a cross between a cave and a Death Star.
New droid BB-8 stole the show at the ‘Force Awakens’ panel announcement and here he is now on the Millennium Falcon, looking rather sheepish.
Rey offering Finn a helping hand. These two are leads in the new film so expect to see a lot more of these in the coming months.
This final sequence must be linked to the chase we saw in the first trailer as we see TIE Fighters chasing the Millennium Falcon into the belly of a huge downed space ship. It looks like an upturned Super Star Destroyer.
And this is the money shot we were all waiting for. Han Solo and Chewbacca back in action for the first time in 32. “We’re home” says Han to Chewie. You certainly are, and boy have we missed you!
The first full length image of a ‘Star Wars: The Force Awakens’ Stormtrooper has been revealed. Check it out below.
The image comes courtesy of the official programme for Star Wars Celebration, the huge official fan convention happening this weekend in Anaheim, California. Fan site Star Wars Underworld posted the photo on Instagram ahead of the show’s official opening later today.
The Stormtrooper costume has been upgraded since it last appeared on screen in ‘Star Wars - Episode VI: Return of the Jedi’, most noticeably the helmet which appears to be much sleeker and streamlined than previous iterations.
You’ll also notice that the new armour now has a pistol holster attached to the thigh armour plate, presumably for a hand held blaster
Star Wars Celebration kicks off later today with a ‘Star Wars: The Force Awakens’ panel, hosted by director JJ Abrams and producer Kathleen Kennedy. The event, which many expect will be used to debut a brand new trailer, will be livestreamed from 6pm on the official Star Wars Facebook page here.
Hopefully the new trailer will be available to watch online shortly after and if it is, you can expect to see it right here on Yahoo Movies.
‘Star Wars: The Force Awakens’ is coming to cinemas on 18 December, 2015. Watch the first teaser trailer below.
reds8n wrote: did kinda wonder if it was in fact Endor or at least Endor after the 2nd Deathstar and all the rest of the space battle came crashing down onto it and turned it into an irradiated wasteland
You''ll rue those words when Ewok Cannibal Holocaust -- in 3D ! -- comes out in 2019 !
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2015/04/17 14:31:23
Subject: Re:Star Wars: The Force Awakens Official Teaser #2
reds8n wrote: You''ll rue those words when Ewok Cannibal Holocaust -- in 3D ! -- comes out in 2019 !
I don't know if this is true, but I read on a film forum that Return of the Jedi was Lucas' take on the Vietnam war, and that the Ewoks were the Vietcong
WTF
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
2015/04/17 14:43:23
Subject: Re:Star Wars: The Force Awakens Official Teaser #2
I will never support the Disneywars. I don't care what Lucas said, I count the EU. It's important. If Lucas and all the idiots at Disney just want ignore that, then may the Yuuzhen Vong obliterate them.
Explanation of what ticked my off most along with some star wars history (massive EU spoilers) Kinda rambled on a bit about the Legacy Era, but it's my favorite so there.
Spoiler:
Chewie is DEAD. By the time Han would be that old Chewie would have been long dead. Yuuzhen Vong blew up a planet with him on it!
Jacen Solo (oldest of the 3 Han/Leia kids)Turns sith, kills Luke's wife Mara Jade (formerly the Emperor's Hand) and Palpatine was resurrected TWICE. The war didn't end with the explosion of the Death Star. But Palpatine was dead for good and the Empire was a divided mess with little to no power in the galaxy as a whole.
Only 25 years after the Death Star the Yuuzhen Vong invaded the galaxy. So in the movies based 30 years after the 1st death of the Emperor, they should be fighting the Yuuzhen Vong still.
The Empire only becomes a large force ruling most of the galaxy about 80-100 years AFTER the Death Star. And even then, the Uniforms for stormtroopers are pretty much the same. The This new design makes it look like the storm troopers are crying.
The new Empire under Roan Fel supported the Jedi and worked alongside them. It even had Knights! Roan Fel had a whole force of Imperial Knights. Trained in the way of the lightside but more of a mass of Grey Jedi. Not Sith by any means but not as pure as Jedi. Later the Sith Dark Krayt along with his new sith order, usurped the Emperor and took over the throne. Fel escaped and with units loyal to him battles against the Krayt Empire. Whipid Jedi master K'khruk and Jedi Master Traa'sa, (who were in the clone wars, yes the clone wars they're that old) are leaders of the Jedi council in a secret temple. A second Jedi purge had been put into effect by Darth Krayt, though this one was far less successful than the previous one. Krayt is/was Jedi Knight A'sharrad Hett. Cade Skywalker is the Anti-hero of the story of star wars Legacy.
It's stupid, it's dumb, I'm sure it'll be good. But I sure as heaven won't be considering it cannon.
angelofvengeance wrote: @Overlord Thraka: That's why they left the EU alone in the first place. Cause the EU nerds would kick off if they fiddled with it.
Or more importantly, the VAST majority of people who are going to see this have never touched a page of the EU and they don't exactly feel like alienating half the audience before the movies even out.
Also, why am I in this topic? I don't even like starwars..
I'll show myself out.
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2015/04/17 15:22:10
Subject: Re:Star Wars: The Force Awakens Official Teaser #2
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
Ruglud wrote: Couple of interesting articles on Yahoo today - first breaks down the teaser trailer #2, second talks about the new Stormtrooper armour...
Can you feel it? There has been an awakening… it’s as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in joy. A new trailer for ‘Star Wars: The Force Awakens’ has been unleashed and - much to the relief of fans around the world - it’s magnificent.
Watch it for yourself below.
This new teaser reveals a lot more of ‘Episode VII’ than the first trailer, so there’s a lot to process. Here’s everything we spotted in the new trailer. Is there anything we missed?
Fallen Empire
The first shot of the trailer reveals a downed Star Destroyer but also a crashed X-Wing too which suggests both the rebels and the Empire suffered serious losses in the years following ‘Return of the Jedi’.
Family affair
Mark Hamill’s voice over hints that we’ll be meeting a new member of the Skywalker clan, presumably Daisy Ridley’s character Rey as you see a female hand being handed a lightsaber. We’re guessing this is the daughter of either Luke or Leia (could Han Solo be the father?!) - “The force is strong in my family, my father has it, I have it, my sister has it, you have that power too.”
Update: It’s now been confirmed that the voice over is actually lifted from ‘Return of the Jedi’
Vader
Here’s Vader’s destroyed helmet. Early rumours suggested the lead villain of the film is a collector of Sith and Jedi artefacts. How they retrieved this from his funeral pyre on Endor is a mystery yet to be solved.
Old pals
This must be Luke Skywalker; the robot hand is a dead giveaway. We’re not sure where this is supposed to be but R2-D2 is there to keep his old master company.
CGI character
The person handing the lightsaber over appears to be a CGI or animatronic creation with orange skin, so we assume this is Lupita Nyong’o’s character as she’s long rumoured to be playing a mo-capped role. It looks like she’s passing the weapon to Rey, but it could just as easily be Leia.
Recognise the lightsaber?
It’s the lightsaber passed on to Luke by Obi Wan in ‘A New Hope’. Luke lost it when his hand was chopped off by Vader on Bespin in ‘Empire Strikes Back’, so how did it end up here? Is this what drives the plot forward?
A squadron of X-Wings, led by Oscar Isaac’s badass pilot Poe Dameron, swoop low over a lake on a mystery temperate planet.
Here we get another brief look at Kylo Ren wielding his now infamous cross-blade lightsaber. You can see Stormtroopers behind him in what looks like an encampment.
Now we see Rey and John Boyega’s Finn running away from a TIE fighter in the distance, with the adorable BB-8 trailing behind. Rey is a scavenger, could this junkyard be her home?
Here’s our first look at Kylo Ren’s face up close. He wears a mask, but we think it’s Adam Driver underneath the costume. Again, he’s backed up by Stormtroopers and appears to be rounding people up.
This is one of our favourite shots in the trailer. A mysterious figure on the stage is addressing hundreds of Stormtroopers with a huge red banner behind him.
You can see a new type of trooper in the distance with what looks like a flamethrower, and you can also see the new, cool looking black TIE Fighters on the left too. Who is commanding the troops? We don’t know yet.
Now we get another awesome action shot showing some TIE Fighters attacking Storm Troopers on some sort of huge space ship. One of the good guys must have stolen it, could it be why John Boyega’s character is disguised as a Stormtrooper?
This fearsome looking chrome Stormtrooper is said to be the character played by Game of Thrones star Gwendoline Christie, codenamed by rumour sites as Captain Phasma. But where is she? The walls look like a cross between a cave and a Death Star.
New droid BB-8 stole the show at the ‘Force Awakens’ panel announcement and here he is now on the Millennium Falcon, looking rather sheepish.
Rey offering Finn a helping hand. These two are leads in the new film so expect to see a lot more of these in the coming months.
This final sequence must be linked to the chase we saw in the first trailer as we see TIE Fighters chasing the Millennium Falcon into the belly of a huge downed space ship. It looks like an upturned Super Star Destroyer.
And this is the money shot we were all waiting for. Han Solo and Chewbacca back in action for the first time in 32. “We’re home” says Han to Chewie. You certainly are, and boy have we missed you!
The first full length image of a ‘Star Wars: The Force Awakens’ Stormtrooper has been revealed. Check it out below.
The image comes courtesy of the official programme for Star Wars Celebration, the huge official fan convention happening this weekend in Anaheim, California. Fan site Star Wars Underworld posted the photo on Instagram ahead of the show’s official opening later today.
The Stormtrooper costume has been upgraded since it last appeared on screen in ‘Star Wars - Episode VI: Return of the Jedi’, most noticeably the helmet which appears to be much sleeker and streamlined than previous iterations.
You’ll also notice that the new armour now has a pistol holster attached to the thigh armour plate, presumably for a hand held blaster
Star Wars Celebration kicks off later today with a ‘Star Wars: The Force Awakens’ panel, hosted by director JJ Abrams and producer Kathleen Kennedy. The event, which many expect will be used to debut a brand new trailer, will be livestreamed from 6pm on the official Star Wars Facebook page here.
Hopefully the new trailer will be available to watch online shortly after and if it is, you can expect to see it right here on Yahoo Movies.
‘Star Wars: The Force Awakens’ is coming to cinemas on 18 December, 2015. Watch the first teaser trailer below.
You know, I actually think the second "sith" isn't actually Kylo Ren. Unless he gets a different lightsabre since the sabre in that scene completely lacks a crossguard.
Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
angelofvengeance wrote: @Overlord Thraka: That's why they left the EU alone in the first place. Cause the EU nerds would kick off if they fiddled with it.
On the contrary, I would love it if the new star wars movies were detailing the Yuuzhen Vong war, for the ongoing war with the weakening empire. What I DON'T like is them pretending like it doesn't exist.
Also, just though I'd throw this out there, Stormtrooper armor only can defend against glancing blaster and melee blows. It's a excellent survival suit, but doesn't convey the protection people might think. On the other hand, Clone Trooper armor is FAR more protective. It can stand up to direct hits from blaster rifles in some cases. That's why clones don't die so much as stormies do. Clones are better in every way.
2015/04/17 15:23:18
Subject: Star Wars: The Force Awakens Official Teaser #2
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
Overlord Thraka wrote: I will never support the Disneywars. I don't care what Lucas said, I count the EU. It's important. If Lucas and all the idiots at Disney just want ignore that, then may the Yuuzhen Vong obliterate them.
You realize that 95% of the EU sucks major ass right?
It was a steaming turd pile that needed to get dumped.
And the Vong were near the bottom of the list.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
Sure, the comics were ok. Not great overall. And not enough to redeem the EU.
This sums up the EU, and why it needs to go.
As for the Vong...
They were the final culmination of the EU constantly One-upping itself with ludicrously, and stupidly, powerful enemies. They were bad cliche super villains, and not in the good way.
They were uninteresting, too OP, and didn't fit with the setting.
Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
I am glad the EU is gone too. It was bad and should feel bad. There were a couple of great and brilliant stories in there, but the vast majority was like really badly written fanfiction on the internet. Of course, despite no longer being canon, nothing will stop people from still reading and enjoying the good EU stories. Overall I think they made a good decision and I am very excited to see what direction they are going now. The trailer looks awesome at least.
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2015/04/17 16:03:30
Subject: Re:Star Wars: The Force Awakens Official Teaser #2
Grey Templar wrote: Sure, the comics were ok. Not great overall. And not enough to redeem the EU.
This sums up the EU, and why it needs to go.
As for the Vong...
They were the final culmination of the EU constantly One-upping itself with ludicrously, and stupidly, powerful enemies. They were bad cliche super villains, and not in the good way.
They were uninteresting, too OP, and didn't fit with the setting.
I respectfully disagree. Have you read any of the comics to come out in the last Decade? Knights of the Old republic, Legacy, Dozens of comic series detailing stuff inbetween the battle of Naboo and the end of the clone wars. (Including my favorite Jedi Quinlan Vos). And one of the newer comics called 'Invasion' dealing with the Yuuzhen Vong. My almost irrational love of the Yuuzhen vong comes entirely from those comics. I'd suggest taking a look. All worth a read. Especially Legacy and Invasion
And yes that image of Han Solo battling a giant Weasel? Ferret? Otter? Stoat?
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2015/04/17 16:13:34
Subject: Star Wars: The Force Awakens Official Teaser #2
For everyone dumping on the Vong, as we found out from Celebration today, if Clone Wars had carried on any longer there would have been an episode that saw a Vong scout appearing.
It's not like Mouse Troopers are going to come to your house and take your comic books away from you, and they are not going to have big EU book burning events at Disney World.
All new movies are simply free to come up with their own ideas, which may or may not include EU plot points, and are not restricted by anything that previously happened post-ROTJ. The old movies are canon, the new movies will be canon, the new movies will be new stories, stuff that was in the old EU can be included but doesn't have to be, and new stuff can contradict old EU stories (which the EU did all the time anyway).
That's it.
Love the EU? Awesome, you can still get the books. Nobody will lobotomize you in your sleep and force you to forget it exists. But new movies won't be based on it.
2015/04/17 16:30:11
Subject: Star Wars: The Force Awakens Official Teaser #2
d-usa wrote: It's not like Mouse Troopers are going to come to your house and take your comic books away from you, and they are not going to have big EU book burning events at Disney World.
All new movies are simply free to come up with their own ideas, which may or may not include EU plot points, and are not restricted by anything that previously happened post-ROTJ. The old movies are canon, the new movies will be canon, the new movies will be new stories, stuff that was in the old EU can be included but doesn't have to be, and new stuff can contradict old EU stories (which the EU did all the time anyway).
That's it.
Love the EU? Awesome, you can still get the books. Nobody will lobotomize you in your sleep and force you to forget it exists. But new movies won't be based on it.
Problem is though, D-USA, the new movies will be exactly the same as the original trilogy - except Solo and Skywalker will be running around with Zimmer frames.
In the first film, the rebels will defeat a great evil, or kill a Sith Lord, in the second, the empire strikes back , and the good guys are separated, and in the third final, an epic battle will happen and the rebels will triumph...again!
Now, these kind of clichés are true for 99.9% of all books and films, but with star wars, the effect is more pronounced.
Sure, we'll have a few nods to the originals, sure we'll have some in-jokes about the age of the older members., and in the end, It'll boil down to cosy, tension free, films.
Yes, I'll watch it, and enjoy it, but is star wars the be all and end of of sci-fi? Not for me. Daft, entertaining adventures.
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
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