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if Clone Wars had carried on any longer there would have been an episode that saw a Vong scout appearing
OMG I have never been more grateful to Disney in my life. This alone makes replacing an good show (Clone Wars) with a terrible one (Rebels) okay.
 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
the new movies will be exactly the same as the original trilogy
 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
in the end, It'll boil down to cosy, tension free, films
So are you arguing that the OT were cozy, tension-free films?

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You know, I actually think the second "sith" isn't actually Kylo Ren. Unless he gets a different lightsabre since the sabre in that scene completely lacks a crossguard.



I think it is, I think we are just seeing the saber from an angle where the cross guard disappears. If you look around the base of the blade, you can see some irregularities that match what the cross guard would look like point-on.

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Maybe Han and Chewie travel to Jakku in search of the Falcon. Seems Rey lives there and might help them find the ship and repair her. I guess it is possible that Vader's helmet also ended up there and Kylo Ren sends Imperial forces to check it out. Finn seems to defect and teams up with Rey.


If we're going to engage in some mild plot speculation, I have a feeling that a good alternate title for the film might be "Star Wars 7: The Search for Luke." Just kinda feels like there'll be a lot of questing going on, maybe on multiple fronts, with Luke either being the object or at the nexus (or both).


 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
I don't know if anybody else noticed this, but when I watched the trailer for the 17th time

I noticed a funny turn of phrase.

When Luke was talking about the force, he mentioned he has it, his sister has it etc etc

and then

MY FATHER HAS IT...


Yep...I thought the same thing. Force ghost, anyone?

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I have a feeling that a good alternate title for the film might be "Star Wars 7: The Search for Luke." Just kinda feels like there'll be a lot of questing going on, maybe on multiple fronts, with Luke either being the object or at the nexus (or both).
I have the same feeling, like everyone will be looking for Luke because he has the answers.

   
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For those who are unaware of Jakku or its significance...you're not alone.

But, apparently EA and Disney have something planned to make it so that in the month leading up to the release of "Star Wars: The Force Awakens" people who have bought Star Wars: Battlefront will be able to get a feel for the planet and the battle between The New Republic and Imperial holdouts.

"Battlefront" will also include a free downloadable level available two weeks before "Star Wars: The Force Awakens" opens in theaters Dec. 18. It's set on Jakku, the battle-scarred desert planet glimpsed in "Force Awakens" teasers. The expansion, dubbed "Battle of Jakku," will explore the moment following "Return of the Jedi" when the New Republic confronted Imperial holdouts on the previously unseen Outer Rim enclave.
   
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Aye.. to badly misquote the joker from the first batman.. 'I never liked the Yuuzhen Vong... I'm glad they're dead'.

Although I did find I'd been enjoying Rebels, but in all honesty have only watched as many episodes as I have as the boys are watching them. I did geek out at Ahsoka's return mind.


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 Manchu wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
if Clone Wars had carried on any longer there would have been an episode that saw a Vong scout appearing
OMG I have never been more grateful to Disney in my life. This alone makes replacing an good show (Clone Wars) with a terrible one (Rebels) okay.
 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
the new movies will be exactly the same as the original trilogy
 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
in the end, It'll boil down to cosy, tension free, films
So are you arguing that the OT were cozy, tension-free films?


Yes I am. There was no way the death star wasn't getting blown up, and there was no way the Emperor wasn't getting defeated.

They pulled a rabbit out of the hat in ESB, but then reverted back to safe mode when they drew back from the implications at hand. How great would the story have been had Luke taken up his father's offer? Imagine the implications of that...


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I was thinking Jakku might have more than one ecosystem but that blurb describes it as a desert planet.


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 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
There was no way the death star wasn't getting blown up, and there was no way the Emperor wasn't getting defeated.
Oh I agree. Only a small child would raise the question "will Luke survive?" and not be able to answer it. Thankfully, that is not what drives the tension or excitement of the film.
 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
How great would the story have been had Luke taken up his father's offer? Imagine the implications of that...
That could definitely be a great story. It is pretty much the story of what happened to Vader from RotS onward. So, in effect, that story is also told. The end of that story is the part that involves Luke. So if you have Luke join Vader and they kill the Emperor then the only direction that story can really go is, Luke changes his mind and redeems Vader or Luke's child/niece/nephew comes along and saves him. Luke rejecting Vader's offer cuts that needlessly drawn out development without losing anything thematically.

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 Manchu wrote:
I was thinking Jakku might have more than one ecosystem but that blurb describes it as a desert planet.


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 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
There was no way the death star wasn't getting blown up, and there was no way the Emperor wasn't getting defeated.
Oh I agree. Only a small child would raise the question "will Luke survive?" and not be able to answer it. Thankfully, that is not what drives the tension or excitement of the film.
 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
How great would the story have been had Luke taken up his father's offer? Imagine the implications of that...
That could definitely be a great story. It is pretty much the story of what happened to Vader from RotS onward. So, in effect, that story is also told. The end of that story is the part that involves Luke. So if you have Luke join Vader and they kill the Emperor then the only direction that story can really go is, Luke changes his mind and redeems Vader or Luke's child/niece/nephew comes along and saves him. Luke rejecting Vader's offer cuts that needlessly drawn out development without losing anything thematically.


His sister could have saved him. They were twins after all...

I'm not knocking Star wars, I've enjoyed the films, and I love the video games, but the potential was there for a more nuanced trilogy. Think shades of grey (not 50!! ) instead of black and white.

Would it have made as much money? Probably not, but it would have been bloody good.

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I think the OT as-is contains about as much moral nuance (which is to say, hardly any) as it requires/can bear. If you want more nuance, look at the prequels. And despair.

   
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One of the coolest things I have read about these new movies is that they are moving back towards using real sets and props, puppetry, animatronics rather than CGI for as much of the filming as possible.

Obviously space battles and whatnot will still be CGI but a big thing for me of the original Star Wars (and I think probably a part of why it did so well) was how 'real' the whole thing felt. At no point did you feel like you were looking at a guy in a suit. For large parts of the prequels, especially with the larger battles, as good as they looked it just felt like you were watching a cut scene from a computer game.

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 angelofvengeance wrote:
@Overlord Thraka: That's why they left the EU alone in the first place. Cause the EU nerds would kick off if they fiddled with it.


On the contrary, I would love it if the new star wars movies were detailing the Yuuzhen Vong war, for the ongoing war with the weakening empire. What I DON'T like is them pretending like it doesn't exist.

Also, just though I'd throw this out there, Stormtrooper armor only can defend against glancing blaster and melee blows. It's a excellent survival suit, but doesn't convey the protection people might think. On the other hand, Clone Trooper armor is FAR more protective. It can stand up to direct hits from blaster rifles in some cases. That's why clones don't die so much as stormies do. Clones are better in every way.


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 Pacific wrote:
At no point did you feel like you were looking at a guy in a suit.


Apart from all the guys in suits

   
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 Manchu wrote:
Pitch for new Yoda film ... 50 Shades of Green.

I think the OT as-is contains about as much moral nuance (which is to say, hardly any) as it requires/can bear. If you want more nuance, look at the prequels. And despair.


I did despair! I'm still despairing!

Probably going OT, but the problem is I'm too old.

When you were young, you see everything in black and white. The British were the good guys, the Germans were the bad guys. Every war film was the same.

Of course, when you get older, you discover not every German was a Nazi, so you look at history of that era in a different light. Sorry for Godwin the thread.

It's the same with Star Wars for me.

The rebels don't feel like rebels anymore. Han Solo was my hero years ago, but when you get older you wonder why a smuggler, a rebel, an outlaw, is accepting a medal at the end of a new hope, when really, he should be robbing the place and flying off in the Falcon. Having kidnapped the Princess before hand

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 Pacific wrote:
At no point did you feel like you were looking at a guy in a suit.


Apart from all the guys in suits


Except none of them were actually in suits. ALL the Clone Trooper armor in the prequels was painted on with CG. Every time you see clones in the PT, that's a bunch of guys in blue body socks standing on a featureless green set.

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 Flashman wrote:
 Pacific wrote:
At no point did you feel like you were looking at a guy in a suit.


Apart from all the guys in suits


And what's with that chrome suit. You and I both know that a Tatooine sandstorm is going to make that chrome look a mess

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 Flashman wrote:
 Pacific wrote:
At no point did you feel like you were looking at a guy in a suit.


Apart from all the guys in suits


Except none of them were actually in suits. ALL the Clone Trooper armor in the prequels was painted on with CG. Every time you see clones in the PT, that's a bunch of guys in blue body socks standing on a featureless green set.


We're talking the OT. Lots of suits there.


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 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
 Flashman wrote:
 Pacific wrote:
At no point did you feel like you were looking at a guy in a suit.


Apart from all the guys in suits


And what's with that chrome suit. You and I both know that a Tatooine sandstorm is going to make that chrome look a mess


It's Brienne of Tarth, so she'll get Podrick to polish it for her

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 Pacific wrote:
One of the coolest things I have read about these new movies is that they are moving back towards using real sets and props, puppetry, animatronics rather than CGI for as much of the filming as possible.

Obviously space battles and whatnot will still be CGI but a big thing for me of the original Star Wars (and I think probably a part of why it did so well) was how 'real' the whole thing felt. At no point did you feel like you were looking at a guy in a suit. For large parts of the prequels, especially with the larger battles, as good as they looked it just felt like you were watching a cut scene from a computer game.
Space battles in The Force Awakens were supposedly filmed using practical props with a CGI background, just like Christopher Nolan did in Interstellar. They had various props on display at Celebration this week.

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I love when he puts his hand up matching Kylo Ren.

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 Flashman wrote:


We're talking the OT. Lots of suits there.


Whoops. Wasn't paying attention.

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Looking over pics of the prop display at Celebration, seems like the bad guys are called the First Order.

http://collider.com/star-wars-7-costumes-props-klyo-rens-lightsaber/

Also the X-Wing is labeled "Resistance"!

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 Manchu wrote:
Looking over pics of the prop display at Celebration, seems like the bad guys are called the First Order.

http://collider.com/star-wars-7-costumes-props-klyo-rens-lightsaber/

Also the X-Wing is labeled "Resistance"!


Yes, I read that. It's the First Order (Nazis) vs. the Resistance (Pre US Intervention Europe)

   
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