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2015/04/18 14:58:38
Subject: Star Wars: The Force Awakens Official Teaser #2
Ensis Ferrae wrote: And after watching the trailer some (a lot) more... I still maintain that Solo has some sort of Force attunement...
WotC's miniatures game actually did give Han a couple of Force points (which, aside from 'casting' force abilities (which he didn't have) could be used in that game for re-rolls and extra movement) to represent his 'luck'.
As a skirmish game, it was pretty interesting- I remember taking the Bacta Tank whenever points allowed it.
And at 15 points in a max-200 game, it was pretty damn cheap.
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The thing about 40k is that no one person can grasp the fullness of it.
Just to give some context to "First Order", remember that in several sources including Rebels, the ideology of the Empire is referred to as "the New Order". Although most of what we know of the Sith of old is now non-canon, Palpatine does say in RotS "once more the Sith will rule the galaxy" and the databank refers to the "Sith Order", so Something Order is a bit of a trope when it comes to Sith empires. From what we know so far, the new Sith seem to seek out Vader's helmet so perhaps they're looking to learn as much about the Sith as Luke is looking to learn about the Jedi - and maybe they call themselves First Order to reflect that they seek to establish a Sith Order emulating the original, and for propaganda purposes may be bigging themselves up as surpassing Palpatine in their vehemence of doing so.
I'm very interested to see the geopolitics behind the factions - just how large and/or powerful is the First Order? If the good-guys call themselves La Résistance, that implies they're the underdogs and the First Order are either in charge or at least an occupation. A theory I have conceived based on what's been revealed about the Battle of Jakku is that there may well be a New Republic in charge of the galaxy, while the First Order are a rising threat acquiring territory and the Resistance is simply a local fight-back in said territory (possibly armed and supported by the New Republic?). Or, using Occam's Razor, it could just be the New Republic was either short-lived or there wasn't really one anyway, the Rebels simply renamed themselves that in overconfidence before getting their asses handed to them.
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The Kasrkin were just men. It made their actions all the more astonishing. Six white blurs, they fell upon the cultists, lasguns barking at close range. They wasted no shots. One shot, one kill. - Eisenhorn: Malleus
2015/04/18 19:06:25
Subject: Re:Star Wars: The Force Awakens Official Teaser #2
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
Wow, we can only hope the game's graphics are that good.
Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
Supposedly, that's in-engine footage, so it should be pretty close (and from the handful of next-gen games I've seen, I can easily believe it'll look that good). The lack of Clone Wars era stuff and Space Battles hurt, but I'm still expecting great things from the game!
2015/04/18 20:12:17
Subject: Star Wars: The Force Awakens Official Teaser #2
Not sure if they're keeping part of the EU here or not.
The Order was the name of the original group of force users. This group had several schisms, the worst of which ended in the Order splitting and the creation of the Jedi and Sith, respectively.
Fate is in heaven, armor is on the chest, accomplishment is in the feet. - Nagao Kagetora
2015/04/18 20:26:49
Subject: Star Wars: The Force Awakens Official Teaser #2
More good news for me - after checking the release dates, I'm glad to see that Spectre and Star Wars don't clash. Spectre out in early November, Stars Wars late December.
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
2015/04/18 21:20:05
Subject: Star Wars: The Force Awakens Official Teaser #2
Paradigm wrote: Supposedly, that's in-engine footage, so it should be pretty close (and from the handful of next-gen games I've seen, I can easily believe it'll look that good). The lack of Clone Wars era stuff and Space Battles hurt, but I'm still expecting great things from the game!
It's not going to be that close. This happens all the time- that trailer wasn't even run on a PS4, it was pre-rendered and shown on a PC, and if you watch the frames, it can't even stay at a steady 30fps, it stutters all the way down to 20fps at times. But games do this literally every "in-engine" trailer. Just see Battlefield 3, Aliens Colonial Marines, Halo 4, etc.
“There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance.”
2015/04/18 23:57:27
Subject: Re:Star Wars: The Force Awakens Official Teaser #2
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote: More good news for me - after checking the release dates, I'm glad to see that Spectre and Star Wars don't clash. Spectre out in early November, Stars Wars late December.
You're only allowed to see one movie a month?!? What a bummer!
2015/04/19 00:13:56
Subject: Star Wars: The Force Awakens Official Teaser #2
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
There probably isn't a single movie that wants to compete with a Star Wars opening.
Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote: More good news for me - after checking the release dates, I'm glad to see that Spectre and Star Wars don't clash. Spectre out in early November, Stars Wars late December.
You're only allowed to see one movie a month?!? What a bummer!
That's the same thing I though!
I'll see Star Wars opening day with my buddy and then I'll take my daughters later that weekend or sometime during the following week after school.
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2015/04/19 02:33:03
Subject: Re:Star Wars: The Force Awakens Official Teaser #2
The Kasrkin were just men. It made their actions all the more astonishing. Six white blurs, they fell upon the cultists, lasguns barking at close range. They wasted no shots. One shot, one kill. - Eisenhorn: Malleus
2015/04/19 02:43:45
Subject: Star Wars: The Force Awakens Official Teaser #2
Automatically Appended Next Post: Looks like I was right about storm trooper armour changing, apology accepted from those who slammed me in that last thread haha
I am looking at your scootypuffjunior!
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2015/04/19 03:06:08
Subject: Re:Star Wars: The Force Awakens Official Teaser #2
Yeah, although they certainly weren't making any attempts to say the planet is somewhere else with the trailer. You see a desert planet in a Star Wars movie you're going to assume its Tatooine.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote: More good news for me - after checking the release dates, I'm glad to see that Spectre and Star Wars don't clash. Spectre out in early November, Stars Wars late December.
You're only allowed to see one movie a month?!? What a bummer!
Nobody likes a smart-ass
I love the Bond films, and the only way to ensure future Bond films is the financial success of Spectre.
If it was competing with Star Wars, it would make less money.
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
2015/04/19 11:16:18
Subject: Star Wars: The Force Awakens Official Teaser #2
Rippy wrote: Looks like I was right about storm trooper armour changing, apology accepted from those who slammed me in that last thread haha
I am looking at your scootypuffjunior!
What do I owe you an apology for? You insisted it wasn't stormtrooper armor because "it looked different." I then explained to you that it is indeed stormtrooper armor and yes, it does look different:
Spoiler:
Rippy wrote: Also I think that dude at the start isn't wearing storm trooper armour, just similar looking armour.
ScootyPuffJunior wrote: He's wearing stormtrooper armor. The only thing that is unknown is whether he is actually a stormtrooper or impersonating one.
You then kept saying that the armor looks different and then you changed your tune slightly:
Rippy wrote: The back comes higher, there is no square thing, the pauldrons sit out more, the black part is more shown on top one under the arms.
you are right, it might be a different variant of armour, but just looks different.
I responded with:
ScootyPuffJunior wrote: Stormtrooper armor has changed in the last 30 years. This was revealed some time ago and then confirmed with the appearance of stormtroopers in the teaser.
Rippy wrote: my humblest of apologies for not being so specific, I meant have they come out and said he is wearing Storm Trooper armour, or is that fan made speculation. You seem to be quite hostile on something as trivial as mild speculation. I see that the armour does look a little different now, though I think that quick flashing part we see (yes even when paused) doesn't prove this. The new shoulder pads do look the same.
While he probably is in Storm Trooper armour, it doesn't hurt to speculate, does it?
I then explained it to you one last time:
ScootyPuffJunior wrote: I'm not being hostile, you're trying to figure out something that isn't there. There is nothing to speculate here: John Boyega is wearing stormtrooper armor, the guys in the dropship are stormtroopers, and stormtrooper armor in The Force Awakens is not the same as stormtrooper armor in the Original Trilogy. You keep bringing up how the new costume is different from the one we last saw 30 years ago as "proof" for your incorrect theory that John Boyega isn't wearing stormtrooper armor despite the fact that it has been explained that the costumes aren't the same. This is just like the guy a few pages ago that swore the X-wings we've been shown weren't X-wings even though they are. The costumes have changed: the stormtroopers don't look exactly the same, the Rebel pilots don't look exactly the same, the X-wings don't look exactly the same, and the Millennium Falcon doesn't look exactly the same.
d-usa wrote: "When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people."
2015/04/19 11:58:34
Subject: Star Wars: The Force Awakens Official Teaser #2
Yeah, although they certainly weren't making any attempts to say the planet is somewhere else with the trailer. You see a desert planet in a Star Wars movie you're going to assume its Tatooine.
Actually, I may have to eat my words. Similarly, I believed the desert planet shown in the Battlefront trailer was Tatooine, but see the image below:
Notice the crashing Star Destroyer to the right? This may be Jakku. So if the Sandcrawler is anything to go by, there may be Jawas on Jakku after all.
And Boba Fett is still alive!
The Kasrkin were just men. It made their actions all the more astonishing. Six white blurs, they fell upon the cultists, lasguns barking at close range. They wasted no shots. One shot, one kill. - Eisenhorn: Malleus
2015/04/19 20:00:30
Subject: Re:Star Wars: The Force Awakens Official Teaser #2
Short teaser for the upcoming Rogue One spinoff movie:
Official synopsis:
"A rogue band of resistance fighters unite for a daring mission to steal the Death Star plans..." (the end was cut off by cheering)
Appears to take place between Episode III and Episode IV, most likely closer to before A New Hope.
d-usa wrote: "When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people."
2015/04/19 20:03:07
Subject: Star Wars: The Force Awakens Official Teaser #2
d-usa wrote: "When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people."
2015/04/19 21:00:56
Subject: Star Wars: The Force Awakens Official Teaser #2
Anyone who has watched the deleted scenes for RotJ knows that
Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
Now this may be an interesting turn of phrase. We have had a few mentions that the line was from the old movie, but Mark could be teasing a little bit here:
Hamill was "cleared" to tell the packed house that he did record a voiceover specifically for the new teaser trailer, which debuted on Thursday during the Celebration kick-off panel.
In the teaser, we hear Luke's voice saying a familiar, but slightly altered line from "Return of the Jedi": "The force is strong in my family. My father has it. I have it. My sister has it. You have that power too."
He laughed and said that he kept messing up and saying: "My father had it."