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I just saw these pictures come through the NOVA Squadron Facebook page feed from FFG's panel at C7 (spoilered for your convenience!):
First batch:
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Second batch:
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Hmm, some further and further from the big names, there... I guess I shouldn't be surprised how quickly they needed to dig in the meh stuff (the punisher is pretty phoned-in IMHO).
spiralingcadaver wrote: Hmm, some further and further from the big names, there... I guess I shouldn't be surprised how quickly they needed to dig in the meh stuff (the punisher is pretty phoned-in IMHO).
I like both of the S&V ships, though.
The Punisher is taken from the game Star Wars: Galactic Battlegrounds where it was called the TIE Interdictor.
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Oh, I didn't think it was new for X-wing, just that it felt very "extended universe" where I swear at least a third of those ships are either a scrapped concept sketch called something else, or basically a bulkier version of something that already exists. The former is pretty tolerable; the latter is... not my taste.
Sigh. I can see why they'd go with the TIE bomber variant as a mirror of the k-wing, but I was really hoping we'd get the assault gunboat in the next wave!
Edit: and looks like a new action icon on the k-wing. I wonder what that's going to be.
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Peregrine wrote: Sigh. I can see why they'd go with the TIE bomber variant as a mirror of the k-wing, but I was really hoping we'd get the assault gunboat in the next wave!
I still expect to see the gunboat relatively soon.
They just need another large base Rebel ship to go along with it (assuming it would have a large base, which I think could be possible).
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d-usa wrote: "When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people."
They just need another large base Rebel ship to go along with it (assuming it would have a large base, which I think could be possible).
It wouldn't have a large base. The assault gunboat was just a "normal" fighter.
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They just need another large base Rebel ship to go along with it (assuming it would have a large base, which I think could be possible).
It wouldn't have a large base. The assault gunboat was just a "normal" fighter.
Yeah, you're right... it is about the size of an X-wing (a little shorter actually).
I don't know why I was thinking it was larger than that.
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Read up on the K-wing a bit. Could the new action be a sort of "Super-boost"? Apparently, the middle engine was used for short bursts of speed. It would also mirror the TIE-thing having the boost action (making both fast, heavy gunboats).
Also, has anyone else noticed that it seems to have a primary turret?
Crazy_Carnifex wrote: Also, has anyone else noticed that it seems to have a primary turret?
Yeah, only two dice though so it's still going to depend on its secondary weapons to do meaningful damage. I wonder if this means it's going to have a HWK-style terrible dial where you unload your alpha strike and then expect to spend a few turns taking turret shots (which are better than nothing) while you try to set up another in-arc shot.
This beautiful ship from the old X-Wing and TIE Fighter PC games. It was kind of an imperial x-wing/y-wing equivalent with shields, ion cannons, missiles, and a hyperdrive.
And here's a fan-made update to modern level of detail standards (link):
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Blimey, the K-Wing and Punisher are just awful. I know the EU has come up with naff stuf in it's time but could FFG really find nothing better to make?
This is the first new wave of that's genuinely disappointed me.
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Crazy_Carnifex wrote: Read up on the K-wing a bit. Could the new action be a sort of "Super-boost"?
Interesting idea, and one that might hint at the missile boat and its (SLAM system) happening soonish if true.
I wonder if these bombers are going to be coming with the rules/cards that fix one shot secondaries for everyone.
Also, I want the assault gunboat!
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So just another thought about the expansions, predominantly those for the Rebels and Empire that this preview has invoked. I have a fear that FFG will continue to create expansions of abstract ships from the deepest corners of the expanded universe that will have lots of neat bells and whistles on them and in doing so will detract from the use of the standard ships of the two aforementioned factions.
Diversity (and not the old wooden ship from a the American Civil War) is good but i just fear that there needs to be a cap on Empire and Rebels before we get too far removed from the foundation of their naval power, there are a few more ships to be added (assault gun boat) but I hope that FFG concentrates on developing Scum and Villainy and perhaps a 4th faction (droid army perhaps?)
I think the new action on the K-Wing is called "Aesthetically Displeasing". I wonder if Hound's Tooth will have a card for Dengar in addition to Bossk.
Interesting choice of ships, I had speculated they might eventually do the K-Wing (as it appears in quite a few books), but did not expect it so soon, and I am very surprised with that bomber, as the only reason that thing exists was to fit the role of an Advanced Bomber for the Imperials (and is probably one of the most lazy of the ground/air vehicles they designed for the game, as many others made to fill in gaps were actually pretty cool)
I hope the reason for them is to fix torpedo/missiles, but the role of the K-Wing and the Punisher might also be as Huge killers, as they K-Wing was specifically meant as a heavy capital ship bomber in the novels. Also, I expect the K-Wing should have some crew slots too, so that will give it some more options.
In regards to the Assault Gunboat, I would like to see it to but I think they might be holding back due to it likely having somewhat similar stats in the end to a Defender, and they seem to be trying to fit in a very wide variety of ship roles for every faction, thus the very obscure ships...
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Wow, looks like they're really scraping bottom of the EU barrel. K-Wing looks like somebody was struggling to find unused alphabets: "Hmmm...'K' is yet to be used. Now, from what angle a ship would look like letter K? Well that looks silly. I better add up some pods and engines so it looks like a spaceship." At least S&V ships look passable.
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I saw a thread on FFG's forum that made a comparison between the K-wing and The Homer and it made me chuckle:
I'll admit, I'm not the biggest fan of the K-wing, but it definitely doesn't bother me. I don't care if my made-believe spaceships happen to look make-believe!
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Huh. It looked more to me like an A-10 crossed with an Enterprise. The front dish can detach from the rocket wings- and X-zibit put wings on their wings so they can wing while they wing!
In that respect, it definitely is a match for the punisher. I quite like the look of Kihraxz, and all of these odd ships make the Hound's Tooth look downright sexy.
If the goal was to subtly promote S&V- well done, FFG, well done!
The saving grace of the K and Punisher will undoubtedly be some sort of upgrade card for their capacious bomb bays, allowing them to fire 2 missiles per lock, or twice per missile, making them a must buy for rocket armies.
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Orkeosaurus wrote:Star Trek also said we'd have X-Wings by now. We all see how that prediction turned out.
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Gitzbitah wrote: Huh. It looked more to me like an A-10 crossed with an Enterprise.
Yeah, I can see that.
I really don't care about how it looks, I'll buy it anyway. As for the Hound's Tooth, I actually think it looks rather cool, plus Bossk is awesome:
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Stormonu wrote: Meh, hound's tooth doesn't interest me, the K-wing is "eh", but I actually like the look of the punisher.
Also, do my eyes deceive me or does the punisher have boost?
No, it most certainly does. They might be making it agile to match the K-Wing, which was supposed to be able to put on bursts of speed (with the new action possibly being something representing this...).
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The K wing looks like a completely different style to me. It reminds me of the Kilrathi Prince's personal fighter craft from Wing Commander II, especially with that ball-turret thing underslung on the front.
Ok I guess my memory was faulty and the wing structure is way off. Oh well. Still seems to be more WC aesthetic than SW universe, to me.
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