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Pretty much all the rumours are true, some things were neglected from mention like swooping hawks moving 18" now and mind shock pods being -2Ld to all enemy units within 12"

A lot of the book is copy pasted.

But away ask away if you already haven't seen it.

 Ravenous D wrote:
Pretty much all the rumours are true, some things were neglected from mention like swooping hawks moving 18" now and mind shock pods being -2Ld to all enemy units within 12"

A lot of the book is copy pasted.

But away ask away if you already haven't seen it.

Curious about the D weapons as Ive been hearing they are -1 S on the Scythes and only count towards instant kills being S4 overall?

scythes and heavy sycthes have the distort scythe rule which is -1 on the D table and are assumed to be s4 for instant death.

Not that it matters because on a 3+ they strip D3 wounds/hull point for each hit, just no instant gibbing imperial knights on a 6.

 Ravenous D wrote:
scythes and heavy sycthes have the distort scythe rule which is -1 on the D table and are assumed to be s4 for instant death.

Not that it matters because on a 3+ they strip D3 wounds for each wound.

They were nasty before being AP2 so really at least you get armor saves against it or do they still have the AP2?

So is there a formation for multiple wraith knights?

Also, for the jetbikes, what psy powers does the warlock leader really get to use?

Is there a restriction for wraithguard and transports?

Do the PL's have invulnerability saves, Did the avatar get anything to compensate for the loss of exarch powers?

Oh and how many extra 'meltabombs' in cost are exarchs, and are the powers base or bought?

 sudojoe wrote:
So is there a formation for multiple wraith knights?

Also, for the jetbikes, what psy powers does the warlock leader really get to use?

Is there a restriction for wraithguard and transports?

There is no formation of wraith knights, they are an aux choice after you take a core of either the wind rider host (360pts min) or guardian or storm host.

Warlocks can use runes of battle or santic daemonology

And there is none, wraithguard are just bulky.

 Ravenous D wrote:

 sudojoe wrote:
So is there a formation for multiple wraith knights?

Also, for the jetbikes, what psy powers does the warlock leader really get to use?

Is there a restriction for wraithguard and transports?

There is no formation of wraith knights, they are an aux choice after you take a core of either the wind rider host (360pts min) or guardian or storm host.

Warlocks can use runes of battle or santic daemonology

And there is none, wraithguard are just bulky.

Isn't there the dreamwalker squad?

 hiveof_chimera wrote:
Do the PL's have invulnerability saves, Did the avatar get anything to compensate for the loss of exarch powers?

Oh and how many extra 'meltabombs' in cost are exarchs, and are the powers base or bought?

Only Asurman has the invul, they are pretty much copy pasted with the new aspect special rules. Avatar got +2S to his sword and gives eldar within 12" rage, fearless and furious charge

And which base powers? The avatar has no upgrads.

What special rules do Howling Banshees have?

 hiveof_chimera wrote:

Isn't there the dreamwalker squad?

Negative, that's an apoc formation and is not in this book

 Ravenous D wrote:

 hiveof_chimera wrote:
Do the PL's have invulnerability saves, Did the avatar get anything to compensate for the loss of exarch powers?

Oh and how many extra 'meltabombs' in cost are exarchs, and are the powers base or bought?

Only Asurman has the invul, they are pretty much copy pasted with the new aspect special rules. Avatar got +2S to his sword and gives eldar within 12" rage, fearless and furious charge

And which base powers? The avatar has no upgrads.

I meant the exarch powers, Dang was hoping for Invulns, oh well.


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 Ravenous D wrote:

 hiveof_chimera wrote:

Isn't there the dreamwalker squad?

Negative, that's an apoc formation and is not in this book

I thought Games workshop blurred the lines of what a apoc game is.
Nvm about whether you can use it though, it's from 6th iyanden

 BlaxicanX wrote:
What special rules do Howling Banshees have?

+3" to runs and assaults, no overwatch, the exarch knocks -2Ld off and cause fear.

Also any unit that contains at least 1 banshee mask cannot have overwatch used on them. So autarch + whatever.

does the avatar still have a 5++ ?

 hiveof_chimera wrote:

I meant the exarch powers, Dang was hoping for Invulns, oh well.

Exarch powers are pretty much gone, they just come standard to each aspect, they have a base ability and the exarch ability, neither that you pay for.




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 RED EYE JEDI wrote:
does the avatar still have a 5++ ?

Yup, he is a Daemon

 Ravenous D wrote:

 BlaxicanX wrote:
What special rules do Howling Banshees have?

+3" to runs and assaults, no overwatch, the exarch knocks -2Ld off and cause fear.

Also any unit that contains at least 1 banshee mask cannot have overwatch used on them. So autarch + whatever.

Wow...

That sound you hear is Tau players crying their eyes out.

Thanks, RD.

 Ravenous D wrote:

 hiveof_chimera wrote:

I meant the exarch powers, Dang was hoping for Invulns, oh well.

Exarch powers are pretty much gone, they just come standard to each aspect, they have a base ability and the exarch ability, neither that you pay for.

That's what I was hoping for, excellent! how many extra melta bombs could you of gotten from buying an exarch from last edition compared to this one.

 BlaxicanX wrote:

 Ravenous D wrote:

 BlaxicanX wrote:
What special rules do Howling Banshees have?

+3" to runs and assaults, no overwatch, the exarch knocks -2Ld off and cause fear.

Also any unit that contains at least 1 banshee mask cannot have overwatch used on them. So autarch + whatever.

Wow...

That sound you hear is Tau players crying their eyes out.

Thanks, RD.

Bwahahahahaha....

Glorious!

Hey, do they still have fear/hatred Slannesh?

 hiveof_chimera wrote:

 Ravenous D wrote:

 hiveof_chimera wrote:

I meant the exarch powers, Dang was hoping for Invulns, oh well.

Exarch powers are pretty much gone, they just come standard to each aspect, they have a base ability and the exarch ability, neither that you pay for.

That's what I was hoping for, excellent! how many extra melta bombs could you of gotten from buying an exarch from last edition compared to this one.

Same as before


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 FakeBritishPerson wrote:
Hey, do they still have fear/hatred Slannesh?

They do, exactly the same as before, copy pasted era of GW

Are shoulder weapons on the WK the same amount of points?

 BlaxicanX wrote:

 Ravenous D wrote:

 BlaxicanX wrote:
What special rules do Howling Banshees have?

+3" to runs and assaults, no overwatch, the exarch knocks -2Ld off and cause fear.

Also any unit that contains at least 1 banshee mask cannot have overwatch used on them. So autarch + whatever.

Wow...

That sound you hear is Tau players crying their eyes out.

Thanks, RD.

Also like to point out, Autarch with wings moves 18", so throw on a banshee mask, move 18" assault with fleet rerolls, that's pretty much auto 25" charges and no overwatch with a unit of haywire grenades. Not the best, but whatever.

 Ravenous D wrote:

 hiveof_chimera wrote:

 Ravenous D wrote:

 hiveof_chimera wrote:

I meant the exarch powers, Dang was hoping for Invulns, oh well.

Exarch powers are pretty much gone, they just come standard to each aspect, they have a base ability and the exarch ability, neither that you pay for.

That's what I was hoping for, excellent! how many extra melta bombs could you of gotten from buying an exarch from last edition compared to this one.

Same as before

That's quite good for the extra wound and free exarch power!

 hiveof_chimera wrote:
Are shoulder weapons on the WK the same amount of points?

Scatter laser is 5pts cheaper, the shuriken is the same cost as the scatter laser, and the starcannons are 5pts more than the scatter laser. So find the old cost for scatter and apply that info.

Has Illic Nightspear changed at all? Is his weapon now Str D? Do Rangers have the ability to become Pathfinders or any upgrades at all?


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Has Illic Nightspear changed at all? Is his weapon now Str D? Do Rangers have the ability to become Pathfinders or any upgrades at all?

 Ravenous D wrote:

 BlaxicanX wrote:

 Ravenous D wrote:

 BlaxicanX wrote:
What special rules do Howling Banshees have?

+3" to runs and assaults, no overwatch, the exarch knocks -2Ld off and cause fear.

Also any unit that contains at least 1 banshee mask cannot have overwatch used on them. So autarch + whatever.

Wow...

That sound you hear is Tau players crying their eyes out.

Thanks, RD.

Also like to point out, Autarch with wings moves 18", so throw on a banshee mask, move 18" assault with fleet rerolls, that's pretty much auto 25" charges and no overwatch with a unit of haywire grenades. Not the best, but whatever.

That is quite good indeed, so if they deploy at the front of their deployment zone thats a first turn charge! Can he get any decent melee like a scorps claw?


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 Ravenous D wrote:

 hiveof_chimera wrote:
Are shoulder weapons on the WK the same amount of points?

Scatter laser is 5pts cheaper, the shuriken is the same cost as the scatter laser, and the starcannons are 5pts more than the scatter laser. So find the old cost for scatter and apply that info.

Thanks

Pretty much has the same CC ability as before, its not the greatest but its an option, like mixing him with harlequins so they don't get chewed up.

Do D scythes have ap2 still?

 Ravenous D wrote:
Pretty much has the same CC ability as before, its not the greatest but its an option, like mixing him with harlequins so they don't get chewed up.

I was trying to get him to be a decent charging unit with the wings, but it's as feared.

 gmaleron wrote:
Do D scythes have ap2 still?

Sure do, all the Distort weapons do.