Alpharius wrote:
Are they?

What seems high?

I haven't seen many prices listed at all yet - but everything's metal here, so...

I do wish West Wind would be a bit more active here - like maybe active at all!

£30 reward
Friend or Foe 1 - Choose any single boxed set from Lycaon, Vampire, Brotherhood, Gentlemen's club or Zombies.
+ Any two human sized models from Requiem.
+ Nadezhda Durova, a Kickstarter only Limited Edition miniature.

Requiem 23+5 Early Bird Special II - (+all stretch goals) 28 human sized models from Requiem + Nadezhda Durova, a Kickstarter only Limited Edition miniature. + a Pdf of the Empire of the Dead rulebook.

 endtransmission wrote:
You gave all those links and missed out the big supplier of ww2 plastics?

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
I really would like to see a weird stuff pledge. Hopefully it shows up in the add ons post haste and I have a valid excuse to pledge.

To me that's what makes the game unique.

I could play bolt action or something if I just wanted regular boot sloggers.

 Alpharius wrote:

 endtransmission wrote:
You gave all those links and missed out the big supplier of ww2 plastics?

Warlord?

Westwind wrote:Ok the books will be full colour, soft back. At the moment we expect around 220 pages for the pair although clearly have not yet done layout.

For the rules we have kept many of the core mechanics but have taken the opportunity to iron out lots of the idiosyncrasies and frustrating bits people have been talking about. We have, though, put together a faster easier but still tactically challenging close combat system which is on test as we speak.

We are now on army lists. Again we are looking at some of the overpowered uber lists and some of the inflexible aspects of army building to give players more flexibility. We are also reworking the points system to accommodate that.

Fluff and background. Yes that along with scenarios and the 'build your own' system we know many love will be in there, possibly with a few surprises. The history background to Europe is well established in book one but with the Pacific and of course the sister work in Incursion we will be taking things further.

 endtransmission wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:

 endtransmission wrote:
You gave all those links and missed out the big supplier of ww2 plastics?

Warlord?

 endtransmission wrote:

Westwind wrote:Ok the books will be full colour, soft back. At the moment we expect around 220 pages for the pair although clearly have not yet done layout.

For the rules we have kept many of the core mechanics but have taken the opportunity to iron out lots of the idiosyncrasies and frustrating bits people have been talking about. We have, though, put together a faster easier but still tactically challenging close combat system which is on test as we speak.

We are now on army lists. Again we are looking at some of the overpowered uber lists and some of the inflexible aspects of army building to give players more flexibility. We are also reworking the points system to accommodate that.

Fluff and background. Yes that along with scenarios and the 'build your own' system we know many love will be in there, possibly with a few surprises. The history background to Europe is well established in book one but with the Pacific and of course the sister work in Incursion we will be taking things further.

There will also be Commonwealth army lists in the books and one of the forthcoming models will be a were-tiger

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K. Another update form Westwind confirming that all of the initial 4 starter sets comprise of existing models, though they are redoing the casts for them so they can be done in better quality material

Creator Andy Cooper, West Wind Productions 7 minutes ago

@Alpharius, yes you got it, you need to go in at Sarge level - £79, which qualifies for all free stretch goals, and these will automatically be added into your pledge. However, if you go in at the higher levels, in addition to qualifying for the free stretch goals, you will be given additional store credit to cover the cost of the free mechs allocated at each level - at the cost of £18.50 each. You don't have to choose the mech when you make your choices via the webstore. If you prefer to choose other things, then you can do. The Mech are going to be really awesome, so can guarantee you will want em

So you can spend your store credit as you wish. You will be required to choose the rulebook as part of your pledge at £30, as we need to cover the cost of producing and printing this, and this is the major purpose of raising the funds on this KS campaign.

ski2060 wrote:
The infantry models in SoTR all have a different look, to include weapons, than normal WW2 infantry.

They are usually modeled with body armor and gas masks, and weapons that look like evolved WW2 engineering.

ski2060 wrote:
...I really don't need more infantry. I have enough that I can work them in no problems.
I would really like to see them add stretch goals bonuses to the Book pledge. Otherwise, I really have no impetus to pick up the rules until retail. If it's going to be the same cost, I can wait til it's out with retailers in the US.

 Alpharius wrote:
...You just have to buy the book later - other than that, spend you pledge on whatever weirdness you'd like!

 Alpharius wrote:
I think we've also now got...confirmation...that your pledge amount will be 'credited' into some secret store front post-KS campaign where you'll pick whatever you want.

Presumably this means you can pledge for a higher amount that qualifies for stretch goals and then later on, get whatever it is you want and not be locked into buying any infantry starters.

I think?

Update #1

Jun 6 2015
Z-Day plus 1........
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Good Morning All!

A massive thank you for jumping on-board and supporting our Secrets of the Third Reich II Kickstarter thus far. Its a very good start but we need as much support as possible over the first weekend. So if you have 5 minutes to spare, please spread the word where you can, Facebook, Blogs, Twitter, raising awareness and talking about us with your gaming buddies.

To help spread the word and get the ball rolling, we have put together a folder on Dropbox with downloadable resources. Images etc....Feel free to share these everywhere!

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/eyetctu26utfr2d/AAAwYh-sTwd0pjcOzmWacC0ma?dl=0

So what would we like to achieve? First of all, Secrets of the Third Reich II rules! We know our community loves the feel of the game and the core mechanics but they have told us they want us to look at some of the anomalies, and of course the unforeseen power plays any rules throw up. We have over the past few months commissioned writers to go through everyone's comments and adapt the rules to make the game flow even better and iron out these wrinkles. We have three experience rules writers, John Bailey from Grindhouse Games - Writer, Ian Hill - Editor in Chief and John Austin in charge of the play testing. Like us, they are all very passionate about the game and love all things SoTR !

So don't expect a totally different game as that's not what folks have said they want, they are happy with the game play and mechanics. Instead expect crisper clearer rules with some interesting additions to make the game playable in more theaters. We wouldn't be West Wind if we didn't also create some stunning new concept art and background, so expect some new immersive narrative to give Secrets more depth than ever before. Oh and the way army lists are built will also be getting a makeover.

New theaters of operation have been a wish for many and through Kickstarter, we hope to unlocking the Pacific theater. Expect whole new factions and options that capture the spirit world of the Far East alongside the existing arcane and weird technology of the current game.

Then there's the new minis. If we hit our goals we will start to unveil the new miniatures conceived. Watch our updates to see these amazing concepts unfurl.

Why Kick start now?

This will be our third campaign. Our aim as a company is to only start campaigns we know will delight our backers, and of course, we need the support to be able to bring the project to fruition as its a huge undertaking. Kickstarter is an amazing way of not only raising funds but also of listening to our backers.

Is this campaign aimed at only existing players?

No way! Although we have listened to our current players we have also been looking at how the gaming market has changed in recent years. Gamers want flowing, immersive games that let players test their tactical mettle against their friends, club mates and campaign or tournament opponents. We believe Secrets II does all this and more. So keen are we to grow the fan base that we are offering our backers a free copy of the current rules so they can experience the game immediately. So whether you're a hardened veteran of 1949 or a new conscript there's plenty in our campaign to draw you into the amazing, terrifying and fun world of Secrets of the Third Reich.

Update #2

Jun 6 2015
Soviet Monster Mech added to Pledge Add Ons section......



Of all the metal monsters to lumber out of the Siberian mecha factories in Cheylabinsk, Russia. KS-1 Mecha is perhaps the most bizarre looking. Named in honour of the Soviet Union's greatest mech ace, Konstantin Samokhin, the KS-1 is something of a cross between mecha and tank. The large bodied mecha walks on eight legs giving it added stability when firing and moving in heavy terrain. Furthermore, the eight legged design allows it to keep moving even if a couple of legs are damaged. This is a formidable and deadly beast within the game and it's unique design earned it the nickname 'Nayk' or 'Spider'!

Alpharius 1 minute ago

I'll add my voice to the chorus of "Please keep the design-a-mech" rules in 2nd edition, please!

Please also add 'tracked' and 'wheeled' options so we can make Weird Vehicles too, if possible!

ian hill 6 minutes ago

Alpharius et al fear not they are staying and will be enhanced.